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Can the DEA Hide a Surveillance Camera on Your Land?
Stop the Drug War.com ^ | January 16, 2013 | Clarence Walker

Posted on 01/22/2013 2:25:19 PM PST by Altariel

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1 posted on 01/22/2013 2:25:28 PM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

bttt


2 posted on 01/22/2013 2:30:58 PM PST by TEXOKIE (We must surrender only to our Holy God and never to the evil that has befallen us.)
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To: Altariel

No, they don’t have the right, but they have the full power of federal law enforcement behind them, so they can do what they want.


3 posted on 01/22/2013 2:31:10 PM PST by I want the USA back
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To: Altariel
It's called government of the people, not for the people anymore.
4 posted on 01/22/2013 2:33:41 PM PST by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Altariel

Why wouldn’t they need a warrant to come on private property and put the camera up in the first place?


5 posted on 01/22/2013 2:33:54 PM PST by Husker24
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To: Altariel

The better question is...can you shoot it?

I think so.


6 posted on 01/22/2013 2:34:58 PM PST by x1stcav (Man up! We're all going to have to become Samuel Whittemores.)
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To: Altariel

Sending in the drones too expensive or risky?

dope or no dope, Nice to know your gubamint is keeping a close eye on ya, huh?

this is a nation lost to a rudderless agenda that keeps bashing the ship of state on the rocks of time and ‘justice’ and then pretending no harm or foul has occurred.


7 posted on 01/22/2013 2:35:03 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: I want the USA back; All
No, they don’t have the right, but they have the full power of federal law enforcement behind them, so they can do what they want.

Will you please tell me which of the specific powers delegated by the Founding States to Congress in Section 8 of Article I gave Congress the power to establish the DEA in the first place?

8 posted on 01/22/2013 2:39:26 PM PST by Amendment10
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George W. Bush 2002 appointee

http://www.fjc.gov/servlet/nGetInfo?jid=2930&cid=999&ctype=na&instate=na

Biographical Directory of Federal Judges
Griesbach, William C.

Born 1954 in Milwaukee, WI

Federal Judicial Service:
Judge, U.S. District Court, Eastern District of Wisconsin
Nominated by George W. Bush on January 23, 2002, to a new seat authorized by 114 Stat. 2762. Confirmed by the Senate on April 25, 2002, and received commission on May 1, 2002. Served as chief judge, 2012-present.

Education:
Marquette University, B.A., 1976
Marquette University Law School, J.D., 1979

Professional Career:
Law clerk, Hon. Bruce Beilfuss, Wisconsin Supreme Court, 1979-1980
Staff attorney, U.S. Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit, 1980-1982
Private practice, Wisconsin, 1982-1987
Assistant district attorney, Brown County, Wisconsin, 1987-1995
Judge, Wisconsin Circuit Court, Brown County, 1995-2002


9 posted on 01/22/2013 2:39:58 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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If conservatism-at-large had any concept of what kind of surveillance state monster their support for the War on Drugs will later unleash upon them, the plug would get pulled tomorrow. A few people ODing in alleyways would be vastly preferable to what’s coming next.


10 posted on 01/22/2013 2:45:56 PM PST by Steel Wolf ("Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master." - Gaius Sallustius Crispus)
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Can the DEA Hide a Surveillance Camera on Your Land?>>>>>>>>>>>>

NO. They have to have a court order absent written consent by the owner.


11 posted on 01/22/2013 2:46:00 PM PST by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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Agreed. Anything I find on my rural property I’ll do whatever I want with it.


12 posted on 01/22/2013 2:48:54 PM PST by Teotwawki (For a person to get a thing without paying for it, another must pay for it without getting it.)
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To: Altariel

All they needed was a warrant from a federal judge, which isn’t hard to get. They couldn’t be bothered, I guess.


13 posted on 01/22/2013 2:54:46 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated

Doesn't say anything about entire acreages.

Be interesting to see how SCOTUS rules.

14 posted on 01/22/2013 2:56:28 PM PST by Sherman Logan
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“Curtilage is a term of legal art referring to the area of a property immediately surrounding a house or dwelling. Past Supreme Court jurisprudence, particularly US v. Oliver [9], had held under the “open fields” doctrine that areas outside the curtilage are not subject to the same Fourth Amendment protection as a home itself. “An individual may not legitimately demand privacy for activities conducted out of doors in fields, except in the area immediately surrounding the home…,” the court held in Oliver. “

I’m not a lawyer but I would think this would only apply to something they could see from adjoining public property or from a neighbor who permits them access. To be able to come on your private property without your permission is wrong any way you look at it.


15 posted on 01/22/2013 2:59:21 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Superciliousness is the essence of Obama)
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To: NormsRevenge

One of the judges Ted Kennedy DIDN’T bother to block, I see.


16 posted on 01/22/2013 2:59:34 PM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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Does the No Trespassing posting close the “open fields”?

I’d say yes, but who knows what the Nine Robed Lawyers will do.


17 posted on 01/22/2013 3:03:40 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Altariel

And people wonder why I want to decriminalize all drugs.


18 posted on 01/22/2013 3:05:38 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (There is no requirement to show need in order to exercise your rights.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Well, “effects” could mean a lot of stuff.


19 posted on 01/22/2013 3:06:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (How long before all this "fairness" kills everybody, even the poor it was supposed to help???)
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To: Sherman Logan

Doesn’t say anything about entire acreages.


I like to test these sorts of things using absurd examples.

Imagine your house is on one of those postage stamp lots and you come home from work one day to find a video camera attached to a tree in your tiny back yard pointed down at your garden to see what you are growing.

Does that sound legit?

That’s what happened here. The yard was just bigger. And I don’t believe the constitution has any limit on the size of your property.


20 posted on 01/22/2013 3:13:53 PM PST by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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