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David S. Goyer: ‘Man of Steel’ Being Approached ‘As If It Were Real’
Screen Rant ^ | January 29, 2013 | Andrew Dyce

Posted on 01/29/2013 10:38:05 AM PST by Bratch

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To: Dr. Sivana

A kryptonite sniper bullet traveling faster than the speed of sound.


21 posted on 01/29/2013 4:58:53 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Lead deforms and splits exposing the kryptonite just like a steel core armor piercing round.


22 posted on 01/30/2013 5:48:35 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Bratch
It’s not hard to see the themes of immigration, belonging, and communal identity that Goyer is driving at (claiming that this is a movie he feels “the world needs right now“)

Boy that just unsold me.

I didn't like that script when it was the lyrics to John Lennon's Imagine.

Great Caesar's ghost!

23 posted on 01/30/2013 5:58:38 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Durus
Lead deforms and splits exposing the kryptonite just like a steel core armor piercing round.

Supes is still invulnerable until the lead splits. It will bounce off his chest before it splits. It is such a small amount he should be able to move sufficiently away if it bounces nearby.
24 posted on 01/30/2013 7:29:48 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Lead doesn’t bounce. It deforms and splits allowing the pretty green kryptonite to pierce Supermans previously invulnerable skin slicing a wound channel and spreading the poison throught out his body.


25 posted on 01/30/2013 9:03:00 AM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: Durus

Anyone who has ever seen Superman have lead bullets shot at him sees the bullets bounce off his chest. And of course bullets ricochet. So, yeah, at the key mokent of impact, the bullet would bounce, and by the time the k-rock was exposed, the payload would be far enough away.


26 posted on 01/30/2013 9:54:58 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Dr. Sivana

What you are seeing isn’t bullets “bouncing” off Superman but lead deforming, splitting, and fragmenting off a surface harder than steel.


27 posted on 01/30/2013 12:49:18 PM PST by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: SJSAMPLE
I don't think we watched the same movies.

Nolan did pretty well with all three, particularly the last two and ESPECIALLY the last one.

Nolan I slow and b-o-o-o-ring.
Nolan II awful with a lousy ending message (that made no sense until redeemed in...)
Nolan III which served as an antidote to the poison of II. Clearly the best of the Nolan trilogy, but still so dark and dense that it cannot appeal to all ages of viewers.

I’m a Marvel guy, but the Marvel movies haven’t all been that great, either;

Spider-Man (great) AGREED.
Spider-Man II (excellent) AGREED.
Spider-Man III (trash) It was OK - too long, too much story.

X-Men didn’t nearly live up, especially the casting.

OK, that's where I really draw the line! X-Men was very good, X2 was really good and X3 was awesome. Granted, the casting of Cyclops was fairly weak, but Patrick Stewart as Xavier. Ian McKellen as Magneto, Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, Alan Cummings as Nightcrawler and - my favorite - Kelsey Grammer as Beast were inspired choices.

Even X-Men 1st Class had plenty of phenomonal casting. Michael Fassbender as young Magneto, Jennifer Lawrence as young Mystique, January Jones as Emma Frost were good choices. And Kevin Bacon as Sebastian Shaw... genius, pure genius. Sure, the minor characters had very weak casting, but by movie #4 most series sufffer really serious drop-offs. I didn't sense that.

Wolverine was just OK. AGREED, but I loved Liev Schreiber as Sabertooth.

Both HULK movies sucked donkey balls. ESPECIALLY THE 1st one!

Iron Man really brought it out but Avengers just wasn’t that good, bordering on the sucky.

Wow, I couldn't disagree more. I haven't anticipated a movie more AND had my anticipations met and exceeded more than by the Avengers. It was the most fun I've had at the movies since the original Star Wars (IV) in 1977.

28 posted on 01/30/2013 1:37:25 PM PST by Sideshow Bob
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To: Dr. Sivana

That’s not how bullets work.
Lead is soft.
The moment it hits whatever it hits, the lead deforms.
It doesn’t simply bounce off in it’s original form, as if it were made of Superman himself.

Once it deforms, the same way it would if it hit a steel plate, the Kryptonite core would be exposed and Supes would get what’s coming to his pansie ass ;)


29 posted on 01/30/2013 2:19:48 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: Sideshow Bob

Wolverine isn’t your typical Hollyweird actor height.
He’s a “runt” by his own admission.

Storm was dreadful.
Jean Grey was dreadful.
Cyclops was weak, especially for a leader.

Stewart and McKellan were admittedly FANTASTIC.

Rogue was pitiful, as were most of the Xavier student body.

First Class was great, but mainly because of Fassbender and the use of the 1960s timeline. Cold War and Mutants - Teh Win.

Avengers just didn’t bring it, but it was good to see an actual Dr. Bruce Banner and not a punching bag. Black Widow sure didn’t sound Russian at any point in any of her movies or scenes, and I have a hard time believing whats-her-face in that role.


30 posted on 01/30/2013 2:25:40 PM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
The moment it hits whatever it hits, the lead deforms. The lead may well deform upon contact, but you cannot tell me that bullets don't ricochet. It doesn't matter if it's Kryptonite undercoating is exposed after the hit, the bullet is long gone; the energy in the deformed lead has to go somewhere, and Superman is the immovable object at the time of impact.

By the way, you can more easily get his pansy a** by using copper bullets. With all those bystanders around the ricocheting bullets, I am amazed that an innocent bystander hasn't taken one in the temple, violating Superman's Code Against Killing (definitely post WW II)


31 posted on 01/30/2013 3:55:14 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: SJSAMPLE
Superman BEFORE the Code Against Killing:



Superman AFTER the Code Aginst Killing:


32 posted on 01/30/2013 4:00:25 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("C'est la vie" say the old folks, it goes to show you never can tell. -- Chuck Berry)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yep.
They de-nutted Supes.


33 posted on 01/31/2013 6:46:20 AM PST by SJSAMPLE
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To: SJSAMPLE
Storm was dreadful.
Jean Grey was dreadful.
Cyclops was weak, especially for a leader...
Rogue was pitiful, as were most of the Xavier student body.

Was it the casting that was bad or the actors themselves OR was it the writing and characterization?

I will agree that casting Halle Barry as Storm was typical Hollywood PC casting and that she has sleepwalked the role in each film. Barry was too old and too American for the role, but I think the producers were trying to add "star" power to the cast. In my head, I always envisioned a younger version of the model Iman as Storm.

I thought Famke Jansen was OK as Jean Grey and the movies' storyline and characterization was pretty good.

Cyclops was a complete disappointment in the story, characterization AND casting. Marsden was terrible in a terrible role and completely unlikeable character.

I will agree and disagree in part with you on Rogue. In X1, the character and writing was OK. I thought Anna Paquin did a good job in the first film, but by X2 & X3 the actress and the role became nothing but whiny non-entities.

First Class was great, but mainly because of Fassbender and the use of the 1960s timeline. Cold War and Mutants - Teh Win.

I liked the clever storyline and thought Kevin Bacon was pretty awesome as a villain (Bacon's & Fassbender's German diction was flawless, btw). But Oliver Platt was savagely underused in the film and the supporting mutant roles were not well cast at all - especially Beast & Banshee.

Avengers just didn’t bring it, but it was good to see an actual Dr. Bruce Banner and not a punching bag. Black Widow sure didn’t sound Russian at any point in any of her movies or scenes, and I have a hard time believing whats-her-face in that role.

I thought Scarlett Johannsen was a good choice when first cast in the role in Iron Man II. I could almost buy her Russian spy thing. The thing that bothered me is that she is clearly 25 pounds heavier than when first cast. Apparently she must have found solace in a pallet full of Ben & Jerry's after being dumped by Ryan Reynolds. Go back and "check the tape" - in IMII, Scarlett was yummy in that skin tight Widow suit. In Avengers, she looked dumpy - especially when contrasted with a positively-smoking Cobie Smulders (who must have lost 15 lbs. from her "How I Met Your Mother" role to fit into her SHIELD catsuit).

Overall, I thought Avengers was outstanding as the 6th "sequel" and culmination in the Marvel series (Iron Man 1&2, Thor, Capt America and the second Hulk movies). The dialog was great and the hero spotlight was well-shared. It was entertaining, fun and light and - unlike Nolan's morose Dark Knight trilogy - you didn't need to be a comic book geek to enjoy the film or the story (although I will admit to formerly being a comic book geek having once owned 210 of the first 275 issues of the original Avengers books - issues 8-74 & 129-275).

Oh well, everyone has their own opinion.

34 posted on 01/31/2013 11:50:03 AM PST by Sideshow Bob
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