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Support Growing For Former L.A. Officer Accused Of Killing Spree ("Dorner for President")
KMAX-TV ^ | February 8, 2013

Posted on 02/09/2013 10:28:26 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

The ex-cop accused of three revenge killings left behind a long manifesto outlining all of his grievances and observations.

That manifesto has given investigators some clues, but they still don’t know where is Christopher Dorner.

Law enforcement spent four hours searching his mom’s Orange County home. They took out 10 grocery bags filled with evidence.

Dorner lost his job with the Los Angeles Police Department in 2008. His manifesto vows revenge for that; and, surprisingly, thousands of people actually support him.

It’s hard to believe but there are those out there who sympathize with the man targeting police officers.

One Facebook page is proclaiming Dorner for president. “We propose electing a man who could no longer sit idly by and watch as malicious tyrants abuse the innocent.”

The description on “We Are All Chris Dorner” chillingly says, “Yes, this is war.”(continued, 2 pages)

(Excerpt) Read more at sacramento.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News
KEYWORDS: banglist; california; chrisdorner; christopherdorner; dorner; facebook; guncontrol; internet; lapd; nutroots; radicalleft; secondamendment
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To: vbmoneyspender

They didn’t accidentally shoot anyone. They shot them. Time will tell if they are punished in anyway.


141 posted on 02/09/2013 4:48:18 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year old…school is now illegal…”cuz it’s yuckey and dumb".)
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To: vbmoneyspender; editor-surveyor; ladyjane; Half Vast Conspiracy
You've spent quite a few posts licking LAPD boots and boo-hooing their plight. You've managed to lambaste other posters and ignore the fact LAPD went willy-nilly through the city shooting up citizens. Then you went and dared other posters to go on a tour of various areas and that that would somehow change their views:

n a final note, if the good citizens of South Central are upset with the LAPD, then the problem lies with the citizens and not with the LAPD. And if you don't believe me, I volunteer to take you on a tour of South Central. I go thru South Central several times a week. We can make it a walking tour and walk down Broadway or visit areas like the corner of Florence and Normandie or, better yet, we can stroll thru Nickerson Gardens and you can experience first hand what the LAPD does on a daily basis. I think an experience like that my change your perspective on who needs to re-examine how they are living their lives.

I tell you what hoss.....I have 4 back to back combat deployments; two of those deployments were AFTER I wound up with shrapnel in the lung. I was deploying to Iraq since the beginning in March 2003. I've been on foot patrol in nearly every major city in Al-Anbar Province, aka the Sunni Triangle, to include Al-Fallujah during Al-Fajr. And funny, even during all out Block 3 combat, never once did any of us decide it was okay to shoot random civilians on sight.

You want to dare to take a neighborhood stroll? Shoulder a pack and rifle and follow me out the door next time out. Bring your pansy LAPD buddies with you too.....we'll see who changes who's viewpoint.

Out of all four deployments receiving umpteen BOLOs of vehicles laden with explosives, we still did not shoot up random vehicles vaguely matching the BOLO descriptions. In the instances service members did open fire, an investigation followed; any hint it was a bad shot and they faced court martial, or at the least NJP....and this is in a combat zone.

Time and again police shoot up houses and family pets without reprisal. Within minutes two civilian vehicles were fired upon numerous times and two innocent U.S. CITIZENS IN A MAJOR AMERICAN CITY were shot....and yet no word, not even a hint that the officers will face any type of reprimand let alone punishment for recklessly endangering the citizens they claim to serve and protect.

I do enjoy your strawman about the soldiers raping a 14 yr old girl and killing her and her family. In that instance, the soldier was apprehended, tried and faces the death penalty when the sentencing phase of his trial begins Monday..........what charges do the LAPD officers that fired on innocent civilians face?

Never once did I say LAPD shooting up innocent civilians out of fear and heavy handedness lent credence to Dorner's actions. What I said was LAPD is demonstrated their propensity for heavy handed tactics and abuse referenced in Dorner's alleged manifesto.

Wipe your chin, your boot polish is smeared.

142 posted on 02/09/2013 4:49:13 PM PST by Repeat Offender (What good are conservative principles if we don't stand by them?)
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To: Repeat Offender
Wipe your chin, your boot polish is smeared.

Cheers!

143 posted on 02/09/2013 4:52:27 PM PST by Half Vast Conspiracy (Based on a letter from an 8 year old…school is now illegal…”cuz it’s yuckey and dumb".)
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To: Repeat Offender
Are you actually suggesting that the LAPD is the problem here?

If so, what do you base that on (other than the ravings of a homicidal lunatic)?

As for my support of the LAPD, you are damn right that I support them. They are the thin blue line. I lived in LA during the Rodney Kings rights and my parents did during the Watts riots and I know first hand how easy it is for law and order to breakdown and for the mob to takeover. So you want to call me an LAPD boot-licker, you go right ahead. I will wear that label with pride. The LAPD is one of the finest police organizations in the country and the officers of that organization do a great job of maintaining the peace in Los Angeles.

144 posted on 02/09/2013 4:58:11 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

Rodney King rights = Rodney King riots


145 posted on 02/09/2013 4:59:12 PM PST by vbmoneyspender
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To: vbmoneyspender

They didn’t beat Rodney enough, of course everyone based their opinion on the few seconds the media showed over and over again, without seeing the times Rodney attacked the Cops.


146 posted on 02/09/2013 5:00:20 PM PST by dfwgator
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To: vbmoneyspender

>> “Are you actually suggesting that the LAPD is the problem here?” <<

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Based on presently available facts, that is exactly what a logically thinking person would have to conclude.

Little to nothing that has been stated in the news about Dorner can be independently corroberated.

Its time to sit back and watch it unfold.


147 posted on 02/09/2013 5:20:06 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: vbmoneyspender
LA's finest ongoing service to citizens
148 posted on 02/09/2013 5:42:10 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“MSM reporting on this incident is extremely (and deliberately) shallow. I’m afraid this guy could end up becoming nothing less than a 21st century Gavrilo Princip.”

“Gavrilo Princip”, Interesting name... You must be a history buff. I had to Google it.

They say that those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.

We hear from the MSM and even here on FR the incontinent victim mantra. Is that to imply that there are non-incontinent victims? The fact is that in a war, if that’s what is in his mind, there are no incontinent victims...


149 posted on 02/09/2013 5:49:00 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: Repeat Offender
vbmoneyspender is gonna limp for the rest of his life.

Thank you for your service.

150 posted on 02/09/2013 5:52:29 PM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: cripplecreek

I find the paradox disconcerting and a little disorienting.

I have spent some time lately reading and re-reading some posts by some Freepers in an attempt to ensure I am not inserting too much of my own perceptions and imparting their message with something that wasn’t there.

But there is some of that there nonetheless.


151 posted on 02/09/2013 5:55:51 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: rlmorel

All I know is that the man has killed at least one cop who was doing nothing more than sitting in his car at a stoplight and that came after killing Monica Quan and then taunting her family about it.

A real sweetheart this one is. /s


152 posted on 02/09/2013 6:11:44 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: editor-surveyor; cripplecreek

The demonization of the police is a characteristic of the Left since the early Sixties. They regard the police as simply another wall of American society that needs to be torn down and built in the image of the Left.

Trust. Confidence. Fairness. Respect of Law. Integrity. Those had been all perceived bricks in that wall called Police. But every single one of those attributes runs counter to those of the Left, and as such, makes them targets.

Prior to that, Americans mostly respected police because we felt that they largely were Americans first, and police second. I understand the feeling was far from universal, but I think we trusted our police more than most countries trust theirs.

It was a very American relationship, the police and the general population. Very Rockwellian.

In the Sixties, the Left correctly perceived that the police and government generally served the center and the right and were against them.

So they demonized the police. (not that I am not saying the police weren’t guilty of many of those criticisms, because they most certainly were)

The point I make is that the Left set out to tear down the police because they could never be on in the same corner as “The Pigs”.

Interesting use of that epithet by the Radicals and The Children of The Sixties. Not “The Fuzz”, The Coppers”, or whatever. It was ad hominem. The media is the most vocal critic of the police even though they cloak it in “The News”, and who makes up the news? Leftists.

So, like Joseph McCarthy (whom they tarred in the eyes of the public over a half a century with a slow, drip-drip-drip Chinese Water Torture of invective) they have done the same with the Police.


153 posted on 02/09/2013 6:21:00 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: editor-surveyor; cripplecreek

The demonization of the police is a characteristic of the Left since the early Sixties. They regard the police as simply another wall of American society that needs to be torn down and built in the image of the Left.

Trust. Confidence. Fairness. Respect of Law. Integrity. Those had been all perceived bricks in that wall called Police. But every single one of those attributes runs counter to those of the Left, and as such, makes them targets.

Prior to that, Americans mostly respected police because we felt that they largely were Americans first, and police second. I understand the feeling was far from universal, but I think we trusted our police more than most countries trust theirs.

It was a very American relationship, the police and the general population. Very Rockwellian.

In the Sixties, the Left correctly perceived that the police and government generally served the center and the right and were against them.

So they demonized the police. (not that I am not saying the police weren’t guilty of many of those criticisms, because they most certainly were)

The point I make is that the Left set out to tear down the police because they could never be on in the same corner as “The Pigs”.

Interesting use of that epithet by the Radicals and The Children of The Sixties. Not “The Fuzz”, The Coppers”, or whatever. It was ad hominem. The media is the most vocal critic of the police even though they cloak it in “The News”, and who makes up the news? Leftists.

So, like Joseph McCarthy (whom they tarred in the eyes of the public over a half a century with a slow, drip-drip-drip Chinese Water Torture of invective) they have done the same with the Police.


154 posted on 02/09/2013 6:21:00 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: Repeat Offender

That was an epic take down, sir. Thank you for your service.


155 posted on 02/09/2013 6:27:23 PM PST by Valpal1
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To: rlmorel

You’re a sorry excuse for a FReeper!

LAPD has demonized themselves for decades.

Trust is earned, confidence in criminal ‘lawmen’ is aptly rewarded, fairness? make me laugh!

Accuse all that you disagree with of being ‘leftist,’ it shows what you’re made of.


156 posted on 02/09/2013 6:45:05 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: rlmorel

There are problems with police and those are largely the result of the environment they live and work in or the laws they’re paid to enforce. And yes there are bad cops but I refuse to judge them all as a whole. In my youth I had too many cops treat me with far more respect than I deserved and I won’t forget that.

Just last winter in a neighboring town two cops were attacked with a chainsaw by some clown hopped up on meth. He had already threatened to kill his neighbors and the cops would have been easily justified in shooting him. Instead they kept him on the opposite side of the car from him and talked him down and arrested him peacefully.

About 10 years ago back when my little town still had police a new officer came down here with a question about something and the dumb ass maced my Jack Russel. It pissed me off and I told him about it and called the chief. I got an apology from both of them but I also went down to the office and let them make up with the dog too.

Today my little town doesn’t even have police and a county sheriff’s car rolls through every once in a while. The moral of that story is if you don’t want cops around don’t live in a high crime area.


157 posted on 02/09/2013 6:46:07 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: editor-surveyor

Hm. Sorry you feel that way. You sound like you felt I was attacking you. I wasn’t.


158 posted on 02/09/2013 7:14:50 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: editor-surveyor
I do stand by my point of view, and I think you are reading more into it than is there. If you look at the text of my post: "...Trust. Confidence. Fairness. Respect of Law. Integrity. Those had been all perceived bricks in that wall called Police..." you should see that I was not only speaking metaphorically, but speaking to the perception of police in general by the American public in a time gone by. I wasn't speaking about the LAPD in particular, but referring to police in general.

I don't think there was anything particularly shocking or untrue about that.

159 posted on 02/09/2013 7:22:58 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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To: cripplecreek

A lot of people who live in non-rural areas don’t feel that leaving is an option...for all the usual reasons. I envy you and your situation, but my path did not take me to a place like yours.

Perhaps someday, it will.


160 posted on 02/09/2013 7:26:11 PM PST by rlmorel (1793 French Jacobins and 2012 American Liberals have a lot in common.)
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