Skip to comments.Advice: Need notebook/laptop NOT made in China
Posted on 03/03/2013 5:17:13 PM PST by Lexinom
Looking to spend $400-$700 for a decent notebook to be used primarily for software development and graphics. Need some speed and horsepower, and durability. These things typically last me about five years, and this one here (a Sony Vaio) is nearing the end of the line.
Brands you'd recommend? Lenovo is highly regarded but very, very Chinese. I'd like to stay away from that. And I hate Apple with a passion.
This will be running Linux.
I don’t believe there are any laptops that are not made in China . My Ma sent my daughter a birthday card ( American Greetings ) the other day and it was made in China .
I like Toshiba laptops, but don’t know where they are made.
I’ve heard good thinga about Falcon-Northwest, but their products are considerably more expensive than your preferred price-range.
Made in China .
Good luck with that.
There are none. Sorry.
Ain’t “Free Trade” great!
Even if you found a laptop that was not “made in China”, the parts probably will have been. I use Dell but I would never recommend them.
I’ve honestly never seen a laptop not made in China, but I always had good luck with HP laptops.
Sam’s Club has an HP laptop online for $480 (if you’re a member) and it has 6gb of memory and a 1 Terabyte (1000 GB) HD.
It's almost funny you even asked.
Lenovo is going to start building PCs in North Carolina later this year.
ASUS is a Taiwanese company, so technically, they’re not chinese.
I like ASUS
Asus is Taiwan not PRC, to be fair. Taiwan is friendly and I’m comparing ASUS in my price range to the Lenovos I’ve already singled out.
Let’s give credit where it’s due. The UNIONS have, again, successfully sent work outside of this country. Gotta love them.
All include hardware components that are made in China.
Buy Lenovo - their quality build is top notch. Go for a Thinkpad and you’re thinking IBM which made it world famous. You can’t go wrong with their laptops and the price is quite reasonable for what you get since IBM sold off its computing division several years ago.
I got an ASUS after being fed up of HP indian call centers and HP breakin down.
I could not want anything better than I have now, love Asus, I get to call Amercia and speak with English speaking people, who are helpful and polite.
Got my oldest boy a ASUS tablet and he loves that too, plus they;re quite cheap compared to other makers.
Some American Companies are Dell, HP and Gateway, but at least some components will be Chinese regardless of who you deal with.
Current laptop used at work is a HP and works great thus far after 1.5 yrs. Since china makes all our stuff now I’ll ignore your “not made in china” stipulation. :-)
Take your pick and don't bid high.
If you miss one, another identical will be about a half hour behind
Got an ASUS laptop and tablet and LOVE THEM.
Their call centers are in America and are helpful unlike HP which was a pain dealing with mohammed or mustapha from India telling me his name was Steven or Mike
You might have to buy expensive, high-end laptops from Fujitsu, which I believe are made in Japan.
Ha... and if a laptop was 100% made in the USA, you could bet it would not sell in the range of $400-700.
ASUS is in Taiwan.
Virtually every computer in the world today is manufactured in either Taiwan or China as are virtually all aftermarket peripherals and accessories.
The only notebooks that are not made in China are the older ones that you can only find in pawnshops.
Check Fujitsu. Bought one not long ago for the girlfriend and it’s a BEAST....and a very affordable price. I now understand why she loved her old Fujitsu so much....
Beware of their low cost ones. If you open and close it a lot, the display ribbon cable fails (three times in the family) Now we buy Asus. If you move the power supply cable around a lot, it fails and is tough to repair (two times in the family). New ones are expensive and cheesay, but knockoffs are cheap and even cheesier.
OTOH, the business models are much tougher, but more pricey, of course. Never had those failures.
Just our experience.
I must disagree. I wouldn’t touch another HP laptop with a 10-foot pole (their printers, servers rock....PC’s and laptops? fuhgedaboutit).
Bought the girlfriend an HP laptop for Christmas 2011....by Nov. of 2012 the motherboard fried. It was a brick. I’m 30 years in the biz and tried everything to fix it. Tossed it in the trash and bought her a monster Fujitsu (see my reply just above). She, and I, couldn’t be happier with the decision.
BTW....I use an HP laptop every day for work, and I hate the damned thing.....
I also have a Gateway laptop & it is great too.
Ditto. My XPS15 died after 5 mos. Hard drive and motherboard had to be replaced (under warranty, but Dell would only provide a refurbished motherboard). 2 months later, same thing happened. 5 mos after that, same thing again. After hours of over the phone troubleshooting with technical support (with people with poor command of English) and 2 home repair visits, Dell finally agreed to examine it at their repair "depot" (but absolutely refused to replace the computer). It's been working ok now for a few months, but I use it with the assumption that it could die again at any minute. I will not buy another Dell.
My current XPS 15 is 14 months old. It’s on its 4th hard drive (hard drive has been replaced 3x) it’s on its 3 motherboard, it’s on its 2nd battery and 2nd AC adapter. The only thing good I can say about the company is I like that with the warranty I bought they will come to my home to fix it.
Well, you have a choice:
Chinese, with their backdoors to your stuff - or
US Govt, with their backdoors to your stuff.
Right now, I’d go with Chinese.
I also have an ASUS (a - sooos). I bought a laptop 3 years ago and bought my spousal unit one last year. Great warranty too.
The only “problem” I’ve had is with the out of the box adobe and java software loaded in the WIN7 image. If you are going with Linux, you may avoid that.
>> I use Dell but I would never recommend them.
I use Dell but would recommend them. Nearly all the support cases I had over the last 10 years were handled quickly and without resistance.
I had an Everex laptop made in Fremont California by Filipina -American assembly workers in 1998. But the company was Chinese owned by a brother and sister who fought all the time and stole all the salespeoples` accounts for themselves so they wouldn`t have to pay any commissions.
My Toshiba is made in China
It will be an interesting challenge to find one that isn’t for that price range.
I think possibly Alienware and Puget but they are way above that price.
Hats off to you for taking the time to locate and buy one NOT made in China. As an added bonus your purchase will probably be less likely to have a back door built into it. We all need to stop feeding the monster and buy things made here or at least in friendly countries.
Ditto, I had a HP tablet that almost made it a year. It is not even good for boat anchor as my boat sank with all my guns aboard.
IMHO, the Lenovo Think Pad is the best notebook out there, bar none. Yes, it’s made in China, but so what? You won’t find a better one and their support is US based.
I wouldn't touch an HP, Toshiba, Dell...those things are overpriced or just carp. Asus is a really good company and generally make superior product for any price point. If you are buying a desktop, buy Asus motherboard.
Asus laptops are good for the price point but are not the easiest things to repair if you have problems.
Almost all the laptops/brands are coming off the exact same lines, with the same components. One day the line will build Dell, the next, someone else. It really comes down to the motherboard and its design and how much the brand is willing to pay to put it together.
We have been buying Acer laptops for at least 10 years. Not sure how many that is but enough to say with all those purchased we have had hardware problems with less than 1% of them (2 out of hundreds and hundreds...one Acer even covered out of warranty...we had to go through their wholesale channel to get to their service people). Acer's have been rock solid for us.
Acers also have very little bloatware (like HP, Compaq, Dell, Toshiba...) so your computer won't have a bunch of carp running in the background.
Get a third generation Core i3 processor (can't remember the product numbers) for general. For graphics, get a Core i5. If you need heavy duty processing, Core i7 (I think this will be out of your price range). Going up in the processor capability chews battery life.
Stick with an Intel Core series processor and avoid AMDs. AMDs are cheaper for a reason. The processor chip or motherboard (or both) burn up a lot...for every brand.
If you need graphics, look for something with a separate video/graphics card and at least 4GB of RAM on the motherboard.
Get something that has USB 3 built into it.
If you can still find one with Windows 7, get it. Avoid Win8. I am still not that thrilled with Windows 64 bit architecture, yet. Their are still some hardware glitches and some internet stuff may or may not work with 64 bit. We generally reload Windows in 32 bit (keycodes work for both 32 and 64 bit versions). For almost all users, their is very little gained by the 64 bit, other than more than 3GB of RAM.
Isn't that an odd coincidence........I mean, exactly the same thing happened to....well.....
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