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How 2 Teens Survived deadly Ohio SUV crash; owner says car stolen
CBS ^ | March 11, 2013

Posted on 03/12/2013 12:53:47 AM PDT by nickcarraway

wo teens who escaped a crash that killed six friends in a swampy pond wriggled out of the wreckage by smashing a rear window and swimming away from the SUV, a state trooper said Monday.

The inside of the sport utility vehicle was entirely under water within minutes of the crash, said State Highway Patrol Lt. Brian Holt.

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To: Aevery_Freeman

“Odd, you are far more hostile to the people that paid into programs (SS) than to people that just take (SNAP).”

No, I look at both sides equally. A person said that people who take from others shouldn’t vote. People on both SS and SNAP are presently STEALING from my kids, so I agreed with him that they shouldn’t vote. No hate on my part, just hoping to see some reform, so the country will get moving again.

As to people that “claim” to have paid into it, they know better, the government books are not secret, they knew the money was spent as it came in and payback would be dumped on future generations. In other words they knew it was just another form of income tax, since there is no lockbox and the money is simply gone.


21 posted on 03/12/2013 5:02:21 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: imardmd1

“Both of hese programs are insurance instruments, not giveaways.”

What a line of crap. Insurance plans are REQUIRED to hold on to money or people go to jail. Plans which claim to be insurance and don’t have money are PYRAMID SCHEMES and the people that paid into them have NO CLAIM on my kid’s money, any more than someone that paid into Bernie Madoff has a claim on my kid’s earnings.

But don’t worry, just like the President’s kids, your government will put a gun to the heads of my kids (figuratively or literally) and TAKE the money from them that YOU DEMAND. So you’ll get it, nothing to worry about.

By the way, my kids NEVER stepped foot in your schools, which is why they’re able to understand just what you people are doing to them and the country.


22 posted on 03/12/2013 5:16:32 AM PDT by BobL (Look up "CSCOPE" if you want to see something really scary)
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To: BobL

“I’m with you. The old people on Social Security and Medicare are ROBBING MY KIDS BLIND - those programs need to be OVERHAULED.”

Actually, many of us old people after having been taxed on it before we paid in to Social Security throughout out working years, pay tax on it again when we take it out. By your reckoning, we should get to vote twice...


23 posted on 03/12/2013 5:18:49 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: nickcarraway

Think of it as Evolution in Action ...


24 posted on 03/12/2013 5:21:42 AM PDT by BlueLancer ("Oh, man, that's a lot of Indians!" [LTC George A. Custer, 1876, near the Little Bighorn Valley])
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To: imardmd1
Right on brother....SS is dwarfed by the money wasted on supposedly education programs which in reality is a union giveaway!!!
25 posted on 03/12/2013 5:24:33 AM PDT by ontap
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To: BobL

Rail on all you like but the facts are the gov. seized my money for 50 years and I intend to get as much of it back as I can. And I bet when you hit 62-63 you’ll mosey on down to the SS office and sign up!!!!


26 posted on 03/12/2013 5:29:09 AM PDT by ontap
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To: BobL
The fact that our politicians stole the money we were forced to pay in to use to buy votes does not make a criminal of me.

I'm not collecting either but your kids are STEALING (to uses your term) from everyone that pays property and sales tax for their education.

I've had to pay into Social Security and pay for public schools all my life and have no kids. (Oh, and I am a veteran).

Still, feel free to call me a thief.

Excessive government makes criminals of us all.

27 posted on 03/12/2013 5:33:35 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: nickcarraway

Self imposed.


28 posted on 03/12/2013 5:33:41 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: babygene
Interesting.

Crooked politicians have forced a Generational War through excessive taxation yet receive no blame for the cause.

Perhaps the anger on both sides needs to be more properly focused on the perpetrators.

29 posted on 03/12/2013 5:37:45 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: Lancey Howard

I just read that most of the parents had no idea where their children were? Some of them as young as 14?


30 posted on 03/12/2013 5:47:02 AM PDT by angcat
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To: nickcarraway
Death penalty for auto theft?

If they were caught by an armed homeowner trying to steal $30K in non-vehicular property, they would have been just as dead.

31 posted on 03/12/2013 5:48:31 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Big Giant Head

Anyone can be a journalist you don’t need brains.


32 posted on 03/12/2013 5:49:48 AM PDT by angcat
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To: nickcarraway
“two teens who escaped a crash that killed six friends in a swampy pond wriggled out of the wreckage by smashing a rear window and swimming away”

The Ted Kennedy strategy times 6.

33 posted on 03/12/2013 5:56:34 AM PDT by fungoking (Tis a pleasure to live in the Ozarks)
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To: imardmd1

While I agree with you, how stupid is it to pay into a govt “plan” that promises to hold on to your money for you then give it back to you later when you “need” it?
Ponzi, anyone?


34 posted on 03/12/2013 7:37:35 AM PDT by matginzac
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To: TheGunny

“Its just good that they didnt take any innocents out with them!”

Very Good


35 posted on 03/12/2013 7:39:26 AM PDT by depenzz
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To: Aevery_Freeman

Correct. Unfortunately, nobody, and I mean NOBODY is going to come out and say what needs to be said

1) It’s a ponzi scheme
2) There’s no $$
3) You’re not entitled to anything from the Treasury
4) SS/Medicare/Dept. of XYZ - 0’d out of budget

I think only the ‘kook’ (L) have been the ones to bring up the obvious while those in D.C. continue to line their own pockets.


36 posted on 03/12/2013 9:33:15 AM PDT by i_robot73 (We hold that all individuals have the Right to exercise sole dominion over their own lives - LP.org)
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To: FreedomPoster
Fogging a mirror as the only prerequisite to vote is ultimately our downfall. If you’re on the dole, you don’t vote, it’s that simple. Lots of things would be cleaned up pretty quickly with this one change.

Well, yeah - - it would be the end of the Democrat party.

37 posted on 03/12/2013 9:35:30 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: BobL

Welfare, food stamps, WIC, ‘free” school breakfasts and lunches, Section 8 housing, Obamaphones, Medicaid, SSDI “crazy checks”, government services for illegal aliens, etc., etc., on infinitum. ...AFTER you cut off the Democrat party’s base of moochers, bums, deadbeats, and parasites, THEN talk to me about trimming back benefits for seniors who dumped their hard-earned money down the government toilet their entire working lives.

Until then, STFU.
Thank you.


38 posted on 03/12/2013 9:44:56 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: i_robot73
Yet, there is a solution.

The Feds may have no money BUT I will take a nice 40-acre plot in Yellowstone Park for my share.

Yes, a flippant remark but the government owns many things that they should not including mining, drilling and harvesting rights that they refuse to allow us to utilize.

The problem of the debt could not only be fixed but freedom enhanced at the same time.

A win-win for the people and a huge loss for the government.

Warms your heart, doesn't it!

39 posted on 03/12/2013 10:03:55 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (They say "Right Wing" but they mean "Wrong Wing"!)
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To: Big Giant Head
Really bad news writing. Owner files police report for stolen vehicle, investigators don’t know why the 8 teenagers were in the car, they didn’t have permission and were not related to the owner.
Really? Journalists can’t do any better than this?

"Journalists" face two main obstacles in this regard. First, they "ain't all that bright". School of Journalism students are almost always in the bottom tier in terms of college entrance scores. Secondly, they are either unwilling or unable to write a story that does not conform to the Liberal line. To the Left, Blacks are eternal victims, and thus cannot be blamed when something goes "amiss". Thus, the story had to be written, but had to leave out the criminal act. What you have left is the poorly-worded dreck that we get in modern news stories.

40 posted on 03/12/2013 10:08:44 AM PDT by Teacher317 ('Tis time to fear when tyrants seem to kiss.)
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