Posted on 03/29/2013 7:49:44 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
My husband’s doctor explained it like this. Having Diabetes II is like having a credit card with an unknown limit. At some point you will max your “credit card” out and that’s when the disease finally makes itself known. It also tends to be more prevelant in Indian, Middle Eastern races. My husband is part Cherokee indian, though you would never know it by looking at him.
Why?
and are just as bad as HFCS.
HFCS is bad?
A little is okay, huge quantities will kill you, eventually.
Isn't that true for just about everything? Life will kill you, eventually.
“My credentials: I’m a chemist, I like sweet stuff, and I’m fat.”
Please add “I’m honest” to that list! Thanks for the info.
I don’t have any of the answers but the link led to an hysterical page that really gave no valid information, just hysteria and fear.
Part of the reason for the diagnosis of adult onset diabetes is that they didn’t diagnose it until the last few generations. Adults died before they got it or they died of diagnosed heart or kidney disease but those diseases were sometimes caused by the diabetes. I would say that a lot of it is caused by obesity and lack of exercise. We have sedentary lifestyles, we aren’t out hunting for our meat and foraging for our grains. We are sitting here browsing the internet. We are living longer.
It is just like ADHD, autism, learning disabilities, I can pick out kids that I went to school with that would have fit in any of the categories that they are now diagnosing but didn’t in the ‘60s.
They didn’t discover insulin until like 1920 and then it took a lot to make it. I have to assume that only those who had extreme symptoms could get it until they synthesised it. People just died and they often didn’t know why.
I will use the example of a young boy I know with Juvenile Diabetes. He seemed to be a healthy kid, his father got him up , they got in the shower and he just limply leaned against his father, he tried to get him to wake up and he wouldn’t. He threw him in the car and took him to the hospital where he was diagnosed. Just a few minutes more and the child would have died. In my generation they might have buried the child and wondered what happened forever.
Just 20 years ago a diagnosis on an adult with diabetes may have been missed for quite sometime, now it is one of the first tests they do if there are any indications. My son passed out once because of heat exhaustion and they gave him a diabetes test after treating him for the heat exhaustion, that wouldn’t have happened in my generation. My own father was diagnosed with adult onset diabetes and I’m pretty sure he had little corn sugar because it wasn’t as popular an ingredient until late in my generation.
So, in short, while there may be more diabetes because of our lifestyles the real reason they diagnose more diabetes is that the medical community is aware that it could be a problem.
Even with high fructose corn syrup our life expentancy has risen 27 years since 1930 and we are still going up. I attribute that to the fact that we have good food and lots of it and modern medicine.
I think the fear that these stories try to generate are more harmful than the products that they are warning you about.
The good news is that HFCS is no worse for you than sugar.
The bad news is that it is just as bad for you as sugar.
Excessive consumption of both are causing huge amounts of health problems for Americans
I guess the bottom line is try to eat healthy, don’t do things in excess and get exercise. I imagine that would solve a lot of health problems.
No, I think all the hysteria and fear that they try to drum up for their own agenda is more harmful than the product they are warning about.
For years the MSM has tried to make us live in fear of everything. And just because it is on the internet doesn’t make it true especially when they include very little real data.
ROTFL!
If you eat healthy, your life won't actually be any longer - it'll just feel that way.
I’d answer your questions, but I don’t like your tone. You don’t seem like fun sort to communicate with.
To put it simply, in my anecdotal observation it is fat around the middle. I started noticing this about 10 years ago when I saw a sign on the Cherokee reservation about the insane rates of diabetes. I just started looking around it is how they are built.
Around here it is Mexicans, I hardly know an adult Mexican who doesn’t have diabetes and they, being Spanish and American Indian are often built just like the Cherokee and the the Navaho.
Another reason is meth, I don’t know anyone who has done meth for a long period who doesn’t have diabetes. And, yes, unfortunately, I know too many of them.
This doesn’t necessarily come from the MSM.
Not everything on the internet is false.
Obviously not everything is false but neither is everything true. When I research the internet, I check many sources, I see if they seem valid by using logic and real science or evidence.
There was a link in the article about the mercury in HFCS, I followed it, I also know that they can measure things in parts per trillion and of course they didn’t say how much mercury was in it so I have to conclude that it is valid but so miniscule that they didn’t say because that would not cause the fear of HFCS that they were trying to engender.
Some people might also want to understand what constitutes "excess" fructose, and why fructose from fruit juice and HFCS is considered excessive. You made that claim and I am curious of your reasoning.
As a chemist, don't you think that criticizing fructose without mentioning the dose-dependent nature of its effects is problematic?
Just about anything in excess can be harmful or deadly, right?
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