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Parents, kids sought in Tampa kidnapping case (anti-government?)
BayNews 9 ^ | Wednesday, April 03, 2013 | Staff

Posted on 04/03/2013 10:07:19 AM PDT by rarestia

Sheriff's deputies are asking for the public's help to find two children taken from their grandmother's home Wednesday morning.

Authorities say Joshua Hakken came into Patricia Hauser's home, on the 14000 block of Shady Shores Drive, tied her up and took her two grandchildren. Hakken fled the home in Hauser's 2009 silver Toyota Camry.

Authorities are looking for the children, 2-year old Chase and 4-year old Cole Hakken, who could possibly be in a black 2006 GMC pickup with Florida tag BHNV-86 registered to Joshua Hakken. Deputies believe Sharyn Hakken may be with them as well.

Chase Hakken is 3 feet tall, weighs 33 pounds, has brown hair and brown eyes. He was last seen wearing pajamas. Cole Hakken is 3 feet 9 inches tall, weighs 44 pounds, has brown hair and brown eyes. He was also last seen wearing pajamas.

Both subjects are considered armed and dangerous and according to authorities, are anti-government and have attempted a previous abduction at gun point in Louisiana. Anyone with any information is asked to call 911 or to call the Hillsborough County Sheriff's Office at (813) 247-8200.


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KEYWORDS: braking; cps; florida; joshuahakken; parentalkidnapping; tampa; wod
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Does it strike anyone else as odd that they would put in this article that they are "anti-government?" Why even mention that?
1 posted on 04/03/2013 10:07:19 AM PDT by rarestia
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To: rarestia

Maybe it will help find them, like hint towards the kind of people that may be helping them and the kind of place where they may be.


2 posted on 04/03/2013 10:11:02 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

But it’s so out of place in this article. It’s like an after thought in the last paragraph. Why is it relevant?


3 posted on 04/03/2013 10:12:39 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia
Missing Perps and kids:


4 posted on 04/03/2013 10:13:13 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: rarestia

Are they saying they “took” their own children?

I would want to know more.


5 posted on 04/03/2013 10:13:19 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: rarestia

More questions than answers in the article - Why were the children in their grandmother’s custody? Why did the children’s parents not have custody? Could that have anything to do with their being “anti-government”? Are the children endangered?


6 posted on 04/03/2013 10:14:23 AM PDT by knittnmom (Save the earth! It's the only planet with chocolate!)
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To: rarestia

Without any more info. I would guess they kidnapped their own children after the government placed them in Grandmothers care. This won’t end well.


7 posted on 04/03/2013 10:14:25 AM PDT by READINABLUESTATE ("We must hang together, gentlemen...else, we shall most assuredly hang separately." - Franklin)
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To: rarestia

Because we are well into 1984, and it is Orwellian.

Or perhaps Liberals don’t really care about kids, but anti-government, now THOSE guys got to be caught!


8 posted on 04/03/2013 10:14:33 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: rarestia

Pretty sick world when Parents can kidnap their own kids.


9 posted on 04/03/2013 10:15:47 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: Adder

Local news is very sparse on details as well. I’m just concerned as to the motive for saying that they’re anti-government. Nothing I’ve heard from any of the Tampa Bay area news outlets indicates that this is relevant.


10 posted on 04/03/2013 10:16:26 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

It helps with the description of their potential behavior, doesn’t it? It wasn’t at the end of the article, where else in the article should it be placed?


11 posted on 04/03/2013 10:18:44 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

Like I said, it strikes me as out of place in the article. There’s no elucidation as to the reason for mentioning it. It’s just there. It’s mentioned just once. No description of their ties to anti-government groups. No mention of them being survivalists. No explanation as to the ties between being anti-government and attempting to kidnap a child in Louisiana.

I understand getting information out to the public, but this almost seems distracting more than helpful.


12 posted on 04/03/2013 10:23:53 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: rarestia

“Anti-Government” is the new ThoughtCrime.


13 posted on 04/03/2013 10:26:23 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Due Process 2013: "Burn the M*****-F***er Down!")
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To: rarestia

Is this a stranger abduction, or a run of the mill family disturbance matter?


14 posted on 04/03/2013 10:28:38 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Well put. I think that’s kinda what concerned me. This is a local media outlet to me, and this sort of rhetoric freaks me out a little bit. I definitely want more information as to their “anti-government” background and what it entails. If it means they sent some politics-heavy emails to representatives or spoke to neighbors about how much they hate Obama, I’ve got some news for the media: they’re surrounded by us.


15 posted on 04/03/2013 10:30:23 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Family disturbance. Apparently they lost custody of the children for some reason, so this “abduction” is more against the will of the government. The grandparents are not commenting.


16 posted on 04/03/2013 10:31:02 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: American in Israel

The ‘missing perps’ sound like the parents.


17 posted on 04/03/2013 10:31:30 AM PDT by green iguana
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To: Adder

With my knowledge of DCF and govt, I would harbor these folks if I saw them. I want to learn more, but don’t expect the truth on the news at all.


18 posted on 04/03/2013 10:34:17 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: rarestia

I have to wonder what the reasoning is behind their children being taken away, kids have been ripped away from their parents for simple BS like feeding them the wrong non-government approved food and even... GASP... Spanking....


19 posted on 04/03/2013 10:34:37 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: rarestia

“Both subjects are considered armed and dangerous and according to authorities”

Probably just a CCW holder or purchased a gun once. Maybe the grandmother said he touched a gun once in his life.

Gotta put down these white anti-govt types, at all cost.


20 posted on 04/03/2013 10:40:22 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: rarestia

“Anti-government” is exceedingly vague, and covers the entire gamut from left to right.

It could refer to anything from ELF-types to those involved in the Sovereign Citizen movement or White Nationalist/Christian Identity militias.

The article is not specific as to what “anti-government” means. Shoddy reporting, in my view. If the perps are involved with ELF, then say so....likewise, if they’re part of the SC movement or WN or CI movement, say so.


21 posted on 04/03/2013 10:44:50 AM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: rarestia

Personally, I wouldn’t turn in a parental ‘kidnapper’ unless I had substantial reason to believe it was warranted (i.e., something beyond the gov’t merely saying so).


22 posted on 04/03/2013 10:46:16 AM PDT by Sloth (Rather than a lesser Evil, I voted for Goode.)
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To: rarestia

“Both subjects are considered armed and dangerous and according to authorities, are anti-government and have attempted a previous abduction at gun point in Louisiana.”

Could the media please explain what makes them “armed and dangerous” simple because they possessed weapons while trying to recover their own children?


23 posted on 04/03/2013 11:00:19 AM PDT by OKRA2012
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To: rarestia

A google search brings up a marijuana arrest in Louisiana for the dad as well a forum post on Adam Kokesh’s website referencing Alex Jones videos (also states former USAF).

I couldn’t find anything on the mom, which makes one wonder why custody was placed with the grandmother instead of left with the mother?

If she was also arrested, why is there no record? If the mom was passed over due to drugs, criminality or mental illness her name should pop up in public records (like the dad’s did).

Unless she is/was in the military and deployed at the time of the dad’s arrest... which is how the kids got placed at Grandmas and a possible custodial conflict might ensue.


24 posted on 04/03/2013 11:04:43 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: George from New England

Thats sort of what I am guessing...there is a cps “order” involved for some reason.


25 posted on 04/03/2013 11:07:49 AM PDT by Adder (No, Mr. Franklin, we could NOT keep it.)
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To: rarestia

http://carrollwood.patch.com/articles/anti-government-parents-abduct-children-from-lake-magdalene-home


26 posted on 04/03/2013 11:08:26 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: READINABLUESTATE
So, if CPS decided that the parents were not suitable parents, removed the kids and gave them to the grandparents, there must be moe to this story.

Were the CPS agents in charge left wing lezzies that hate whitey?

By itself, CPS can turn otherwise normal people into “anti-government” activists.

What crime did the parents commit? Did they try to start a business without the proper permits?

Did the parents make meth or sell drugs?

There is a reason that the grandparents asked for custody of these children.

27 posted on 04/03/2013 11:08:28 AM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: rarestia

ok


28 posted on 04/03/2013 11:08:42 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: George from New England
“Both subjects are considered armed and dangerous and according to authorities”

Probably just a CCW holder or purchased a gun once. Maybe the grandmother said he touched a gun once in his life.

Or, maybe they are considered "armed and dangerous" because they "have attempted a previous abduction at gun point in Louisiana."

29 posted on 04/03/2013 11:08:54 AM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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To: rarestia

Everyone in my office just received an alert about this on our cell phones. Structured as an amber alert.

If you configure alerts on your phone you also see the option for Presidential Alert, which cannot be turned off.


30 posted on 04/03/2013 11:12:38 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: GraceG

Well said.


31 posted on 04/03/2013 11:14:45 AM PDT by b4its2late (A Liberal is a person who will give away everything he doesn't own.)
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To: texas booster

http://oregonfamilyrights.com/christines/history.html

Back in 2002 a Christian home-schooling family had troubles with the police and CPS while driving through Oregon in their motorhome. Brian and Ruth Christine. Really sad. And it went from bad to worse when the parents took their kids at gunpoint (no shots fired) from the CPS workers during one of their visits with the kids.

Mom and dad are STILL in prison IIRC, and the kids are with the grandparents I believe.


32 posted on 04/03/2013 11:18:18 AM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: rarestia

Boycott BayNews 9 for even printing a story like this where they are very obviously leaving out important details to suit their own agenda.


33 posted on 04/03/2013 11:19:13 AM PDT by Revel
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To: rarestia

The “anti-government” tag might cue-in use of DHS drones -for the children of course.


34 posted on 04/03/2013 11:19:29 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Revel

It’s not just BN9. Local Fox, ABC, and NBC affiliates are using the same language.


35 posted on 04/03/2013 11:22:53 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: 21twelve

Oops. On the Christine story, Ruth has been out since 2009 and the kids are living with her in her native country of Great Britain. Brian was JUST released last month.


36 posted on 04/03/2013 11:25:12 AM PDT by 21twelve ("We've got the guns, and we got the numbers" adapted and revised from Jim M.)
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To: texas booster

“There is a reason that the grandparents asked for custody of these children.”

To collect child support from the parents?


37 posted on 04/03/2013 11:25:36 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
Or, maybe they are considered "armed and dangerous" because they "have attempted a previous abduction at gun point in Louisiana."

I'm amazed at freepers saying they'd be first to aid and abet these parents and whining about the phrase "antigovernment" while completely ignoring the previous abduction attempt.

38 posted on 04/03/2013 11:26:07 AM PDT by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: driftdiver; rarestia

Amber Alert just popped up on my celphone. Says the vehicle is a “black GMC”, but the plate is FL U95KT.

Vehicle match is a stretch, and the plate is wrong.


39 posted on 04/03/2013 11:26:58 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: rarestia

I am assuming that the person who took the children is their father and that the woman thought to be with the man and the children in their mother. I am also assuming that the grandmother had legal custody of the tots. Should not have to assume anything about such basic facts.

Very poorly written. What in the name of pete do these journo-listers study in their writing classes?


40 posted on 04/03/2013 11:27:13 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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I’m just concerned as to the motive for saying that they’re anti-government.

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So they will have an excuse to light up the place when the perps are found holed up with the tykes?


41 posted on 04/03/2013 11:29:01 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Restore us, O God of hosts; let your face shine, that we may be saved! -Ps80)
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What in the name of pete do these journo-listers study in their writing classes?

How to make a difference 101.

42 posted on 04/03/2013 11:32:23 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Conscience of a Conservative

Something very fishy. How would they have been accused of abduction in another state. If either state had custody it wouldn’t span to another state. Interstate activity is non-existant.


43 posted on 04/03/2013 11:34:41 AM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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So they will have an excuse to light up the place when the perps are found holed up with the tykes?

Ruby Ridge 2.0

44 posted on 04/03/2013 11:36:46 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: Valpal1
A google search brings up a marijuana arrest in Louisiana for the dad (STRIKE ONE) as well a forum post on Adam Kokesh’s website referencing Alex Jones videos (STRIKE TWO) (also states former USAF) (STEEEERIKE, HE'S OUTA HERE!!).
45 posted on 04/03/2013 11:47:19 AM PDT by Old Sarge (We are officially over the precipice, we just havent struck the ground yet...)
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To: rarestia
Does Bay News comment on crimes committed by people who support the Black Panthers?

"Couple who robbed store were supporters of the local Black Panther group"..(you will never see this in a headline...)

Or people who support 'Occupy'?

The new meme is 'get the Jews' ... Oh wait, the new meme is 'get the conservative'. Not actually a conservative - but if they can paint with a broad enough brush... and they can... they'll trash us.

46 posted on 04/03/2013 11:52:10 AM PDT by GOPJ (more people vote for a living than work for a living -you're lucky if you don't lose your life-)
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To: Bigg Red

I live in the area that BayNews 9 serves - and they would NEVER mention in a report about a crime the politics of a person IF that person was liberal.

Never

Never ever.

I have NEVER heard them report that the person who robbed the local 7/11 was also a supporter of the Black Panthers.


47 posted on 04/03/2013 11:56:20 AM PDT by GOPJ (more people vote for a living than work for a living -you're lucky if you don't lose your life-)
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To: Old Sarge

Yes, that’s probably where the anti-government accusation comes from, but the real question is why the mother doesn’t have custody?

How did they get placed at Grandma’s instead of left with Mom? The only thing I can think of that wouldn’t involve a public record is military deployment.

If Dad got arrested while Mom was deployed, Grandma would get a call. Then Mom comes home and Grandma doesn’t want to give up the kids (or the stipend she’s been getting for them) and disagrees with Mom about the viability of her marriage or suitability of the Dad and you’ve got a ugly custody dispute in progress.


48 posted on 04/03/2013 11:57:56 AM PDT by Valpal1
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To: Uncle Miltie
“Anti-Government” is the new ThoughtCrime.

I should be in jail for life.

49 posted on 04/03/2013 12:06:42 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal The 16th Amendment!)
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I should be in jail for life.

Hell, I'd be facing a firing squad.

50 posted on 04/03/2013 12:09:16 PM PDT by Marathoner (What are we waiting for? Where are the Articles of Impeachment!)
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