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Looking for laser Rangefinder with high performance/price ratio
April 6, 2013 | E. Pluribus Unum

Posted on 04/06/2013 4:25:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

I am considering purchasing a laser rangefinder as an aid for target practice. I don't want to spend a lot of money, and I don't want to waste my money if cheap ones aren't very good. I have narrowed my search down to this one:


$115.89 Simmons Laser Rangefinder, 10-600 yards

Does anybody have any experience with laser rangefinders they can share?


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1 posted on 04/06/2013 4:25:04 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Are you sure you don’t want one with a high performance / price ratio? (Or, a low price/performance ratio?) Because I have a really crappy one I’ll gladly sell for $28,000, if that’s really what you want.


2 posted on 04/06/2013 4:26:24 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

You’re right. I made a mistake. That’s never happened before.


3 posted on 04/06/2013 4:27:11 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Busnell 1600 a great range finder I have maxed it out at 1600 yards.


4 posted on 04/06/2013 4:30:44 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: riverrunner

Just from reading reviews it seems that they don’t work very well under some conditions. Have you experienced that at all?


5 posted on 04/06/2013 4:32:50 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So, I guess you don’t want my rangefinder? Dang.


6 posted on 04/06/2013 4:38:55 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: coloradan

No, I was just asking if it works under all conditions. I am doing research. I might spend that much, but I’d rather not.


7 posted on 04/06/2013 4:41:49 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How far do you want to shoot? There are many quality models out to 400 yards, but as you go up in range, so too does the cost. I’ve used 400 yd models <$150 for years, but I don’t shoot long range. My current model, about $250 is good to 800 yds. They all get shaky and hard to aquire targets at greater distances.


8 posted on 04/06/2013 4:55:09 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: umgud

The Simmons is rated at 600 yards. The reviews are kind of iffy on that. After looking at the ballistic charts, bullet drop really accelerates after 400 yards. I probably would limit myself to 400 yard shots for that reason. Do you think this one would be OK at 400 yards and under? Any recommendations?


9 posted on 04/06/2013 4:59:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Spend a little more. Anything Simmons is “iffy” in my book.


10 posted on 04/06/2013 5:11:34 PM PDT by MileHi ( "It's coming down to patriots vs the politicians." - ovrtaxt)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

You should do just fine with that model. I just looked and found the Simmons < $150 on the net.

Here’s what you’ll find when you use it. It works almost OK on a 500yd elk, but it’s tough. It’s doable if you have a rest and a little patience. Smaller targets.... forget it. It works really well on large unobstructed objects or closer smaller targets.

I step out into my driveway and use my pickup bed as a rest. The street sign 4” x 18”? 200 yds, tough, but can be ranged. An airconditioner on a roof at 400 yds is real doable. A stop sign at 300 yds, easy. A 1 foot gong at the range, 400 yds is really tough.

I’d say buy it at that price. It will probably do most of what you need and nowhere near what you want.


11 posted on 04/06/2013 5:12:28 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

This is just my personal experience so take it for what it is worth.

Assuming the sights are correct, 400 yards seems to almost be the magic distance. 400 yards and under, again assuming sights are correct, most good shots can hit a deer sized animal in the kill zone nearly every time.

After 400 it gets way more difficult, so much so that I would not attempt the shot under normal circumstances.

Having said all that, a 600 yard rangefinder should work just fine.


12 posted on 04/06/2013 5:24:59 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: yarddog; umgud; MileHi

Thanks for the input. I really appreciate it. I am getting this as a new toy, and more than half the fun of getting a new toy is finding the one you want.


13 posted on 04/06/2013 5:47:47 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: yarddog
We use a variety of laser rangefinders at work to measure distances and heights of objects and even some angles.

Let me start by saying that the optics are important, but not out past 400 yards the most important thing is who you steady it. Probably not even past 200 to 300 yards. At just about any long range distance, you will need some form of monopole or tripod to hold the range finder rock steady so that its target will not be dancing all over the place.

Most ranger finders we use are used for relatively short distances (<200 yards), where you can keep the target (cross hairs) relatively in the same place. When we try to stretch the distance a bit, I always take a tripod.

I have shot at targets 400 yards a way with iron sights and I could hardly see the bulls-eye. Magnification and quality of optical sights is absolutely critical at any real distance. That means it is not so much the quality of the laser chip (there are probably only a few rangefinder chip mfg’s) but the quality of the optics and the magnification power are what will make a difference in how well you can use a range finder at distance.

Personally, I don't feel shooting at anything beyond about 200 yards is warranted. If it is at 400 yards, it means you just need to get closer to what it is that you want to shoot.

14 posted on 04/06/2013 5:49:09 PM PDT by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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15 posted on 04/06/2013 5:53:23 PM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Robert357

i think you have to consider something at 400 yards possibly coming towards you at a variety of speeds and reasons.


16 posted on 04/06/2013 5:55:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Robert357

One time I was shooting with my Nephew. The rifle was a 98-09 Argentine Mauser in 7.65X55 Mauser. It was a very uncommon rifle for both the workmanship and the fact that it came with it’s original test target in which Herr Ritzman had fired a sub 2 inch, 3 shot group at 200 meters. The bullets were striking about 2 inches above the aiming point.

My Nephew found an old roofers tar bucket about half or two thirds full of tar. We sat it out at a measured 400 meters. We used a car odometer to measure the distance so not exact but still pretty close.

It turned out the rifles iron sights were dead on at 400 yards so we had to make no adjustments. I believe I hit it every single time using the roof of a car as a rest. What really surprised me is my Nephew who is not a particularly good shot, hit the bucket more times than not from a standing position. When it was hit the bucket would move, sometimes more other times less.

That is the reason I decided 400 yards was not really hard.

I later fired at an old syrup cooker from ranges greater than that, then much greater than 400 yards. Accuracy dropped way off. We could hit it about half the time but we are talking about something maybe 8 ft. by 3 ft. Every hit made a loud clang on the cast iron.

At 400 I was confident. At 600 not confident at all.


17 posted on 04/06/2013 6:19:16 PM PDT by yarddog (Truth, Justice, and what was once the American Way.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
As you are finding out, there is a lot of fog in the ratings of range finders. One rated at 1600 yards is all well and good, but read the fine print. That rating is for highly reflective targets. Great stuff if you plan on ranging and shooting at white buildings. Check to see if they rate the distance for real world targets like deer, and likely nearby objects useful for ranging like trees.

Much shorter range. Time of day also makes a big difference in performance. My older Bushnell Yardage Pro will not do much over 300 yards in bright sunshine, but will go over 600 yards off houses at dusk.

18 posted on 04/06/2013 6:28:51 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
That rating is for highly reflective targets. Great stuff if you plan on ranging and shooting at white buildings

So a deer at 400 yards on the edge of a field?

19 posted on 04/06/2013 6:55:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Just went outside and ranged a palm tree 540 yards away, so a deer at 400 with one of the newer models should be not much of an issue. No deer around here to try it on. My Bushnell RF binocs are 11 years old and older tech.

What might get tricky is making sure the deer is what you are getting the range on, and not something else nearby. If you have a sporting goods shop that carries this stuff, maybe go try a few.

20 posted on 04/06/2013 7:45:56 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69
I was wondering about being sure what it was actually ranging on.

Thanks!

21 posted on 04/06/2013 7:49:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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I’ve got a Bushnell that goes out to over 600 yards and calculates my bullet drop and even windage. It does more than I ever wished for or needed and was around $190. The settings have to be adjusted for brushy areas or clear shots also.
22 posted on 04/06/2013 8:32:56 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
It has a "scan" mode I have not fiddled with much. This is what it says:

"This mode allows the range to be continuously updated for 10 seconds when the power button remains depressed. It can be used to scan an area containing several objects or a single object that is moving.:

Noticed newer Bushnell RF mentioning a "Brush" mode I guess to help out figuring out what you are ranging on. I go by nearby objects to verify the validity.

23 posted on 04/06/2013 9:16:50 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: vetvetdoug

How does it calculate windage?


24 posted on 04/06/2013 10:36:28 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I have owned and use several laser ranger finders over the last 20 plus years.

I really like my 1600s, The Liecas are nice too.

They all have times that they don't work as well as others. Fog, rain, bright sun shine all have a effect on their ranging. Target quality is a big one.

Battery life is very good in the 1600s,the fact I don't have to switch back and forth from binos to range finding is a big plus for for me.

I have had my 1600s for 3 years now and find they work well.

25 posted on 04/06/2013 11:16:11 PM PDT by riverrunner
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To: vetvetdoug
I’ve got a Bushnell that goes out to over 600 yards and calculates my bullet drop and even windage.

What is the model number?

26 posted on 04/07/2013 7:09:53 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Somebody has to be courageous enough to stand up to the bullies." --Dr. Ben Carson)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Bushnell 1000 Scout Arc. It does not calculate or estimate windage. I must have been dreaming but added it in my head. However, the Rangefinder does calculate the arc if one is shooting from an extreme angle and calculates the real distance. One may be 30 feet in the air from the target but only 24 feet ground distance. It has allowances for bow hunters and will also allow and calculate the bullet drop for about 16 different calibers and loads. It has a mode for brushy areas vs. clear shots and reflectivity of the target.
27 posted on 04/09/2013 7:39:12 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
B&H Photo has good prices on electronics of every kind.
28 posted on 04/09/2013 7:42:15 PM PDT by rabidralph (http://www.cafepress.com/westernwis)
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