Skip to comments.Outlook Mail is new and from Microsoft is worth giving a try
Posted on 04/10/2013 5:23:25 AM PDT by dennisw
I have been testing it out. It is sleek and simple like Gmail but you won't be tracked by the Gmail/google system. It is new so is wide open for getting email addresses you want. For example:
firstname.lastname@example.org should be available and same with email@example.com
Gmail has a 10Gb storage limit for mail but outlook mail has none as far as I can see. Also can send larger attachments. Outlook mail search (within mail) function works great.
Sounds like a good alternative to people who are trying to de-Google themselves, but trying to get rid of Google entirely will also require script/cookie blockers in web browsers, avoiding Chrome and Android entirely, etc.
I’m not sure it’s entirely new, though... hasn’t Microsoft run the “live.com” webmail system for some time now?
Is that what took over “Hotmail”?
Is this a new Outlook Express?
— Outlook mail has been around for six months and opens up a new universe of outlook.com email addresses
-— Those who were using hotmail, windows live mail, had an msn.com email address ...all now must log onto at the outlook.com mail webpage. They are now part of the outlook mail system
has nothing to do with outlook express. outlook.com mail is gotten too via the internet same as yahoo mail or gmail
It seems crappy to me. It’s very slow and awkward with more secure browser configurations. Intended to push new hardware, no doubt.
The Outlook moniker can be somewhat confusing.
Nevertheless, I’ve been using this webmail service since its inception and have absolutely no complaints.
>> you won’t be tracked by the Gmail/google system
Right; you’ll instead be tracked by the competing Microsoft borg.
Right; youll instead be tracked by the competing Microsoft borg.>>>
Along with IRS, DHS, and a whole host of other alphabetized beauracrasies.
You'll see this message after you create an account.
Outlook is privateyoure in control of your data, and your personal conversations arent used for ads.
Within 4 days, I noticed a dramatic change. On any computer I check outlook mail on, the advertisements on webpages have dramatically changed. No longer are they generic advertisements, but they're now directly targeted to me. So I cleared all the cookies, launched up Chrome, went and checked my gmail, and then went to visit those same websites, and once again I was back to mere generic advertisements.
A moment at outlook mail, and once again, all the advertisements were directly targeted at interests that had shown up in outlook mail.
So now I only check outlook mail using whatever stealth browsing option is available (IE in-private, Chrome stealth, etc.) If your goal is to keep your interests out of the hands of advertisers, then I'd strongly suggest avoiding any webmail choice. But of the webmail options, the only one which appears to directly affect the advertising I'm seeing online is Microsoft's.
But not your hardware. MS won't allow you to control your own OS, nor does it recognize that the Windows OS is yours.
Expect lots of problems if it’s the one replacing hotmail. Good program but needs some time to work out the glitches. Never get new stuff from Microsoft right away.
I use it after dumping gmail, but don’t believe that aren’t tracking—just to a lessor extent.
My daughter switched from Yahoo, so I got an account, too. From the start menu in Win8 I can see if I have mail. Haven’t seen advertisements following me around, but I keep my caches clear.
Thanks. How much does outlook mail track you??? You gave a good answer. I have flash blocked so at least I miss some advertisements i.e. brainwashing
Cleared the cookies, went to the same site, and there were the standard generic advertisements. Went back to Outlook, then went to the same site, and once again, it was half a page full of Disneyworld advertisements.
It was pretty amazing, actually. Same computer, using gmail for years (booked the vacation, pictures, tons of activities scheduled using Google Calendar, used the android phones the whole time), but until that one message popped up on Outlook, rarely did I ever see a Disney advertisement except on forums related to Disney.
Love the graphic. Microsoft-free for more than a decade
Thank you :)
Wish I could say I made it.. I am good with graphics, but not THAT good ;)
I love Thunderbird, but if you ever change your ISP, forget it. There goes your address.
It’s why I finally gave up and started using a Yahoo mail account. My address follows me wherever I move, no matter what ISP I have.
Live.com replaced Hotmail. Outlook Mail is replacing Live.com. Live.com was Microsoft’s attempt at a drop-box type system with cloud storage. Outlook Mail is Microsoft’s Office 365 web portal for email.
Microsoft is trying to get into the “cloud” movement with much of their product. I actually have a meeting in an hour with Microsoft to discuss our corporation’s readiness for Office 365. I’m personally not a cloud fan, but most major companies are going toward an “always online” scheme with online licensing and access.
At stake here is Microsoft’s licensing monies and tracking of license usage. They can do away with User and Device CALs, they can do away with EAs (Enterprise Agreements), and they can do away with the MAP (Microsoft Assessment and Planning) tool for licensing “true-up” if they can get everyone hooked into the cloud for everything.
Think of it like we’re going back to the old “dumb terminal” days where a thin-net BNC cable connects you back to a server that validates your existence (licensing) and feeds you everything you need (applications) without having a CPU/memory/hard disk sitting right there with you.
It’s actually quite ingenious since a majority of users don’t require all of the horsepower in their machines. Instead, you build a hulking server that can offer services to clients with the only bottleneck being the network. Since most corporate environments are on GiB Ethernet anyway, bandwidth isn’t an issue and applications are run on the server with output at your desktop.
It’s already in place with products like VMware’s View system, it’s just becoming more mainstream.
No, that's not what I'm talking about. It's when I've had to move my physical household, and have wound up with a new ISP where I've had problems.
In the past (admittedly a good number of years now), I've had to create a new email address after switching service providers. I wasn't able to keep my old email address when using Thunderbird.
With services like Yahoo mail, your account travels with you, regardless of who your service provider is. Are you saying that you can create a portable Thunderbird address now?
Then nothing's changed in the basic way Thunderbird functions since I last used it.
If I have to create a Yahoo email account, just so I can point it to a different email program, I may as well just use Yahoo for email. I don't see the point in using Thunderbird under that circumstance.
I liked using the program when I didn't use Yahoo, et al for email. Then, I simply pointed Thunderbird to my ISP and created my own email firstname.lastname@example.org
I could have that too, but knowing that we'll probably move our household again this year, I won't bother to set it up because the email address won't be portable.
I suppose once we finally get settled for the long term, I may use Thunderbird for email again. I really liked it when I was using it. Much better than Yahoo or Gmail.
There is 0 limit on the email storage! That alone makes it worth it. Add in the better rules, non-spying google, alternate email addresses, and more—it’s the clear choice for free email.
Also you can send larger attachments (I think) My gmail box is 50% full
And yes....the field is wide open for signing up for outlook.com email addresses. I snagged a few I thought would be much more difficult. MS says go to your email address once a year or they may put in storage
That’s an interesting way of doing things. Gonna have to bookmark that!
I’ve been using it. Liking it a lot.
outlook mail is the bomb!
Okay, thanks for the tip. I just opened an email account so we’ll see how it goes. One thing I noticed, intuitive it AIN’T. LOL, I went to start building a “contacts” list from my other email account but there was nowhere on the Outlook contacts page to fill in the freaking email addresses! There were places to type in the contact name and company, etc., but nowhere to put in the actual email address! Oh well... they obviously still have some kinks to work out. Hopefully I’ll be able to click on “add contact” when I get email sent to the new account and I can build my contacts list that way.
They looked at Gmail and did everything to improve on gmail. There must be a provision for the email address. I’ll check myself plus I am going to import my gmail address book to test.
Checked-— for each contact there is a provision for work email addy and personal email addy
And best way to import from say a gmail account is to first export gmail contacts to a csv file then upload this to outlook mail.
To bring your contacts into Outlook, first go to your other email service and export them to a file. Then come back here.
Select the service you’re importing contacts from:
Microsoft Outlook (using CSV)
Choose the file to import:
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