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Outlook Mail is new and from Microsoft is worth giving a try
self | April 11 2013 | Microsoft

Posted on 04/10/2013 5:23:25 AM PDT by dennisw

I have been testing it out. It is sleek and simple like Gmail but you won't be tracked by the Gmail/google system. It is new so is wide open for getting email addresses you want. For example:

vanhalen7@outlook.com should be available and same with freeper@outlook.com

Gmail has a 10Gb storage limit for mail but outlook mail has none as far as I can see. Also can send larger attachments. Outlook mail search (within mail) function works great.

http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/feature/webmail-war-gmail-vs-outlookcom-vs-yahoo-mail


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1 posted on 04/10/2013 5:23:25 AM PDT by dennisw
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To: dennisw

Sounds like a good alternative to people who are trying to de-Google themselves, but trying to get rid of Google entirely will also require script/cookie blockers in web browsers, avoiding Chrome and Android entirely, etc.

I’m not sure it’s entirely new, though... hasn’t Microsoft run the “live.com” webmail system for some time now?


2 posted on 04/10/2013 5:27:40 AM PDT by kevkrom (If a wise man has an argument with a foolish man, the fool only rages or laughs...)
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To: dennisw

Is that what took over “Hotmail”?


3 posted on 04/10/2013 5:27:50 AM PDT by albie (s)
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To: dennisw

Is this a new Outlook Express?


4 posted on 04/10/2013 5:33:38 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: kevkrom; albie

— Outlook mail has been around for six months and opens up a new universe of outlook.com email addresses

-— Those who were using hotmail, windows live mail, had an msn.com email address ...all now must log onto at the outlook.com mail webpage. They are now part of the outlook mail system


5 posted on 04/10/2013 5:36:27 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: nuconvert

has nothing to do with outlook express. outlook.com mail is gotten too via the internet same as yahoo mail or gmail


6 posted on 04/10/2013 5:37:59 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: dennisw
I've used Thunderbird eMail (for Firefox) for years w/o a problem.
It's free - and even better - it's neither a Google or MS product.

7 posted on 04/10/2013 5:39:20 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: dennisw

It seems crappy to me. It’s very slow and awkward with more secure browser configurations. Intended to push new hardware, no doubt.


8 posted on 04/10/2013 5:39:40 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: dennisw

ah. okay


9 posted on 04/10/2013 5:40:22 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: dennisw

The Outlook moniker can be somewhat confusing.

Nevertheless, I’ve been using this webmail service since its inception and have absolutely no complaints.


10 posted on 04/10/2013 5:41:29 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet - Mater tua caligas exercitus gerit ;-{)
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To: dennisw; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; stylin_geek; ..

11 posted on 04/10/2013 5:41:31 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dennisw

>> you won’t be tracked by the Gmail/google system

Right; you’ll instead be tracked by the competing Microsoft borg.


12 posted on 04/10/2013 5:45:21 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: Nervous Tick
>> you won’t be tracked by the Gmail/google system

Right; you’ll instead be tracked by the competing Microsoft borg.>>>

Along with IRS, DHS, and a whole host of other alphabetized beauracrasies.

13 posted on 04/10/2013 5:51:23 AM PDT by Lurkina.n.Learnin (Obama is the Chicken Little of politics)
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To: dennisw; All
I just signed up to try it out. I've been using GMail for years. Looks like this is Microsoft's competitor. If you want to try it you better get your email name quick before someone else takes it tough.

You'll see this message after you create an account.

Outlook is private—you’re in control of your data, and your personal conversations aren’t used for ads.

14 posted on 04/10/2013 6:03:28 AM PDT by McGruff (You are either with us or you are with the RINOs.)
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To: dennisw
I've been a long time gmail user, and when outlook mail went online, I figured, what the heck, I'd give it a shot. I set up an account mostly to deal with those obvious points of entry - store loyalty programs, etc, changing them away from gmail.

Within 4 days, I noticed a dramatic change. On any computer I check outlook mail on, the advertisements on webpages have dramatically changed. No longer are they generic advertisements, but they're now directly targeted to me. So I cleared all the cookies, launched up Chrome, went and checked my gmail, and then went to visit those same websites, and once again I was back to mere generic advertisements.

A moment at outlook mail, and once again, all the advertisements were directly targeted at interests that had shown up in outlook mail.

So now I only check outlook mail using whatever stealth browsing option is available (IE in-private, Chrome stealth, etc.) If your goal is to keep your interests out of the hands of advertisers, then I'd strongly suggest avoiding any webmail choice. But of the webmail options, the only one which appears to directly affect the advertising I'm seeing online is Microsoft's.

15 posted on 04/10/2013 6:09:33 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: McGruff
Outlook is private—you’re in control of your data, ...

But not your hardware. MS won't allow you to control your own OS, nor does it recognize that the Windows OS is yours.

16 posted on 04/10/2013 6:16:04 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: dennisw

Expect lots of problems if it’s the one replacing hotmail. Good program but needs some time to work out the glitches. Never get new stuff from Microsoft right away.


17 posted on 04/10/2013 6:23:25 AM PDT by Hattie
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To: dennisw

I use it after dumping gmail, but don’t believe that aren’t tracking—just to a lessor extent.


18 posted on 04/10/2013 6:27:58 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: dennisw
I started using hotmal in ‘95 was switched over to outlook a couple week go there are a few differences but for the most part it's the same as hotmail i still login to hotmail ...
19 posted on 04/10/2013 6:30:13 AM PDT by jrd (All federal acts,laws,orders,rules regulations regarding firearms, infringe the 2 amendment)
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To: dennisw

My daughter switched from Yahoo, so I got an account, too. From the start menu in Win8 I can see if I have mail. Haven’t seen advertisements following me around, but I keep my caches clear.


20 posted on 04/10/2013 6:36:25 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: ShadowAce
That is why I am on Linux
;)



21 posted on 04/10/2013 6:49:00 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: kingu

Thanks. How much does outlook mail track you??? You gave a good answer. I have flash blocked so at least I miss some advertisements i.e. brainwashing


22 posted on 04/10/2013 6:52:16 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: dennisw
Within 12 minutes of viewing an e-mail on an upcoming run I had registered for, advertisements started running for other runs. Within an hour of getting a message from my travel agent about a recent trip to Disneyworld, it seemed like every other advertisement on pages were screaming about huge discounts on reservations at Disneyworld. (that was actually what tipped me off...)

Cleared the cookies, went to the same site, and there were the standard generic advertisements. Went back to Outlook, then went to the same site, and once again, it was half a page full of Disneyworld advertisements.

It was pretty amazing, actually. Same computer, using gmail for years (booked the vacation, pictures, tons of activities scheduled using Google Calendar, used the android phones the whole time), but until that one message popped up on Outlook, rarely did I ever see a Disney advertisement except on forums related to Disney.

23 posted on 04/10/2013 7:13:36 AM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Bikkuri

Love the graphic. Microsoft-free for more than a decade


24 posted on 04/10/2013 8:46:09 AM PDT by zeugma (Those of us who work for a living are outnumbered by those who vote for a living.)
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To: zeugma

Thank you :)

Wish I could say I made it.. I am good with graphics, but not THAT good ;)


25 posted on 04/10/2013 9:02:41 AM PDT by Bikkuri (Molon Labe)
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To: oh8eleven

I love Thunderbird, but if you ever change your ISP, forget it. There goes your address.

It’s why I finally gave up and started using a Yahoo mail account. My address follows me wherever I move, no matter what ISP I have.


26 posted on 04/10/2013 9:20:49 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
I love Thunderbird, but if you ever change your ISP, forget it. There goes your address.
Not sure what you mean. You can change your email host from Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc., in TB as often as you want.
And even if you have more than one email account on different servers, you can add them all to Thunderbird.
All you have to do is create a new account for each one within Thunderbird that points to the new server(s).
Google "how to set up thunderbird for XXXXX" where XXXX is your email provider, and you'll find detailed set up instructions.
Setup a new TB account for each email address.
27 posted on 04/10/2013 9:34:44 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: kevkrom

Live.com replaced Hotmail. Outlook Mail is replacing Live.com. Live.com was Microsoft’s attempt at a drop-box type system with cloud storage. Outlook Mail is Microsoft’s Office 365 web portal for email.

Microsoft is trying to get into the “cloud” movement with much of their product. I actually have a meeting in an hour with Microsoft to discuss our corporation’s readiness for Office 365. I’m personally not a cloud fan, but most major companies are going toward an “always online” scheme with online licensing and access.

At stake here is Microsoft’s licensing monies and tracking of license usage. They can do away with User and Device CALs, they can do away with EAs (Enterprise Agreements), and they can do away with the MAP (Microsoft Assessment and Planning) tool for licensing “true-up” if they can get everyone hooked into the cloud for everything.

Think of it like we’re going back to the old “dumb terminal” days where a thin-net BNC cable connects you back to a server that validates your existence (licensing) and feeds you everything you need (applications) without having a CPU/memory/hard disk sitting right there with you.

It’s actually quite ingenious since a majority of users don’t require all of the horsepower in their machines. Instead, you build a hulking server that can offer services to clients with the only bottleneck being the network. Since most corporate environments are on GiB Ethernet anyway, bandwidth isn’t an issue and applications are run on the server with output at your desktop.

It’s already in place with products like VMware’s View system, it’s just becoming more mainstream.


28 posted on 04/10/2013 9:52:23 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: oh8eleven
Not sure what you mean. You can change your email host from Gmail, Hotmail, Yahoo, etc., in TB as often as you want. And even if you have more than one email account on different servers, you can add them all to Thunderbird.

No, that's not what I'm talking about. It's when I've had to move my physical household, and have wound up with a new ISP where I've had problems.

In the past (admittedly a good number of years now), I've had to create a new email address after switching service providers. I wasn't able to keep my old email address when using Thunderbird.

With services like Yahoo mail, your account travels with you, regardless of who your service provider is. Are you saying that you can create a portable Thunderbird address now?

29 posted on 04/10/2013 10:22:22 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
Are you saying that you can create a portable Thunderbird address now?
I do not believe TB provides (or ever did provide)any email service like Yahoo, Gmail, etc. That is, no such thing as "my_email_name@thunderbird.com".
But even if they did, you would still access it from anywhere in the world just like you would for Gmail, Yahoo, etc.
Thunderbird is an email program just like Eudora or Pegasus. You tell it where your email provider is located (eg, https://login.yahoo.com/), the account info & password, and then TB will retrieve your mail.
30 posted on 04/10/2013 10:45:11 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
Thunderbird is an email program just like Eudora or Pegasus. You tell it where your email provider is located (eg, https://login.yahoo.com/), the account info & password, and then TB will retrieve your mail.

Then nothing's changed in the basic way Thunderbird functions since I last used it.

If I have to create a Yahoo email account, just so I can point it to a different email program, I may as well just use Yahoo for email. I don't see the point in using Thunderbird under that circumstance.

I liked using the program when I didn't use Yahoo, et al for email. Then, I simply pointed Thunderbird to my ISP and created my own email address@myisp.com

Thanks.

31 posted on 04/10/2013 11:00:16 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Windflier
If I have to create a Yahoo email account, just so I can point it to a different email program, I may as well just use Yahoo for email.
Yes, you're probably right - it's a personal choice.
I use T/W Roadrunner for email ... five accounts. I also have an email address in conjunction with my website host, plus a Yahoo email account.
I access all seven accounts via Thunderbird.
32 posted on 04/10/2013 11:09:46 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: oh8eleven
I use T/W Roadrunner for email ...

I could have that too, but knowing that we'll probably move our household again this year, I won't bother to set it up because the email address won't be portable.

I suppose once we finally get settled for the long term, I may use Thunderbird for email again. I really liked it when I was using it. Much better than Yahoo or Gmail.

33 posted on 04/10/2013 11:28:56 AM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: oh8eleven
Except that there is no way to migrate email from Thunderbird to Outlook for those of us who decide Thunderbird isn't as easy to use as Outlook.

No offense.....

34 posted on 04/10/2013 2:08:44 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: dennisw

There is 0 limit on the email storage! That alone makes it worth it. Add in the better rules, non-spying google, alternate email addresses, and more—it’s the clear choice for free email.


35 posted on 04/10/2013 2:22:14 PM PDT by for-q-clinton (If at first you don't succeed keep on sucking until you do succeed)
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To: ducttape45
Except that there is no way to migrate email from Thunderbird to Outlook ...
I've never used Outlook so I can't comment on its importing capabilities. But TB saves your email on your hard drive so it's probably do-able.
Try this How to Get Thunderbird Email Messages Into Outlook.
You can get your Thunderbird Name & Address Book into Outlook by exporting it from TB as a CSV file ... then importing it into Outlook.
36 posted on 04/10/2013 3:14:41 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: for-q-clinton
There is 0 limit on the email storage! That alone makes it worth it. Add in the better rules, non-spying google, alternate email addresses, and more—it’s the clear choice for free email.

Also you can send larger attachments (I think)     My gmail box is 50% full

And yes....the field is wide open for signing up for outlook.com email addresses. I snagged a few I thought would be much more difficult. MS says go to your email address once a year or they may put in storage

37 posted on 04/10/2013 3:35:02 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: oh8eleven

That’s an interesting way of doing things. Gonna have to bookmark that!


38 posted on 04/13/2013 4:33:39 PM PDT by ducttape45
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To: dennisw

I’ve been using it. Liking it a lot.


39 posted on 04/13/2013 4:40:50 PM PDT by stuck_in_new_orleans
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To: stuck_in_new_orleans

outlook mail is the bomb!


40 posted on 04/13/2013 11:10:14 PM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: dennisw

Okay, thanks for the tip. I just opened an email account so we’ll see how it goes. One thing I noticed, intuitive it AIN’T. LOL, I went to start building a “contacts” list from my other email account but there was nowhere on the Outlook contacts page to fill in the freaking email addresses! There were places to type in the contact name and company, etc., but nowhere to put in the actual email address! Oh well... they obviously still have some kinks to work out. Hopefully I’ll be able to click on “add contact” when I get email sent to the new account and I can build my contacts list that way.

FRegards,
LH


41 posted on 04/13/2013 11:43:47 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

They looked at Gmail and did everything to improve on gmail. There must be a provision for the email address. I’ll check myself plus I am going to import my gmail address book to test.


42 posted on 04/14/2013 5:27:38 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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To: Lancey Howard

Checked-— for each contact there is a provision for work email addy and personal email addy

And best way to import from say a gmail account is to first export gmail contacts to a csv file then upload this to outlook mail.

_____________________
_____________________

Importing contacts

Step 1
To bring your contacts into Outlook, first go to your other email service and export them to a file. Then come back here.
Step 2

Select the service you’re importing contacts from:
Microsoft Outlook (using CSV)
Outlook
Step 3
Choose the file to import:


43 posted on 04/14/2013 5:36:25 AM PDT by dennisw (too much of a good thing is a bad thing - Joe Pine)
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