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My new AMERICAN-MADE Laptop Computer
Self | 13 April 2013 | Self

Posted on 04/12/2013 3:08:16 PM PDT by Lexinom

I've received my Lotus Solstice-15 with upgraded 1080p display.

These are built in the USA by a small company in Orlanda called LotusPC.

I negotiated a fair deal and received one-on-one help from the owner of the company. He built the machine to our exact specifications, including the absence of an installed OS (for which we were not charged).

This PC is of high-quality, on the order of a Panasonic laptop, in the $800-$1000 range. It's extremely solidly built with keypresses not moving the adjacent keys, has a keypad, and even the base i5 CPU screams. Running Ubuntu 12.10.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: buyinglaptop; computer; laptop; madeinusa; notebook; vanity
It is still possible to obtain a great U.S.-assembled laptop.
1 posted on 04/12/2013 3:08:16 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

Note your comment...this is an ASSEMBLED product not a built product. All those chips and boards as well as the LCD panel came from abroad.


2 posted on 04/12/2013 3:09:53 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Lexinom

Just looked at their website. The company I work for dropped over $6K for the laptop I have (have to run some pretty hefty stuff) and these guys have a completely superior machine for $2K less.


3 posted on 04/12/2013 3:13:51 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Nifster

Better than nothing?


4 posted on 04/12/2013 3:15:21 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: Nifster
Yep, from all over the place including China.

I really like Lotus PC and am glad to have them in our corner.

5 posted on 04/12/2013 3:15:40 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Nifster

Every little bit helps. According to their site the support and warranty are great.


6 posted on 04/12/2013 3:16:00 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: jwsea55

Ping! :-)


7 posted on 04/12/2013 3:20:01 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom

Wonderful!!


8 posted on 04/12/2013 3:22:42 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim

One detail I particularly appreciate is the design of the power jack: it has, on the female side, five radially-distributed tabs around the perimeter.


9 posted on 04/12/2013 3:24:06 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Nifster

“All those chips and boards as well as the LCD panel came from abroad.”

Dang!


10 posted on 04/12/2013 3:24:10 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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11 posted on 04/12/2013 3:28:29 PM PDT by twistedwrench
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To: AuntB

It’s true, they do. But the design was most likely from a U.S engineer, R&D and NRE funded by an U.S company and the EPA gets completely bypassed cause their made in another country. That’s what makes them cheap.


12 posted on 04/12/2013 3:32:39 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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To: Nifster
All those chips and boards as well as the LCD panel came from abroad.

There's no way around it. We simply don't make this stuff over here anymore.

13 posted on 04/12/2013 3:35:09 PM PDT by Drew68
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To: Lexinom

Best part is they let you upgrade to Win7 Pro as an OS instead of that crappy win8.


14 posted on 04/12/2013 3:59:58 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: Nifster

I can’t believe there are so many on this thread so quick to believe Integrated Circuit chips are no longer made in the US.


15 posted on 04/12/2013 4:11:36 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty
I can’t believe there are so many on this thread so quick to believe Integrated Circuit chips are no longer made in the US.

FR ain't the storehouse of wisdom it was when I first came here 12 yrs ago.

16 posted on 04/12/2013 4:13:14 PM PDT by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: nascarnation

You’ve finally convinced me. We’ve had this discussion before. :^(


17 posted on 04/12/2013 4:17:43 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Drew68; napscoordinator
There's no way around it. We simply don't make this stuff over here anymore.

That will come as a bit of a surprise to the folks over at Intel. And TI. And ON. And Freescale (Oh, I bet you never heard of them. Used to be this tiny little outfit named "Motorola"). Intel has the fab in AZ. TI in TX. ON in AZ. Freescale in AZ and TX (OK, FSL had a fab in Sendai Japan, but we know how that turned out).

Then there's Silicon Valley....

(Gotta at least try, nascar.)

18 posted on 04/12/2013 4:34:53 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Cyber Liberty

Then there’s Silicon Valley....
***I live in SV. NONE of this stuff gets made here in the USA.


19 posted on 04/12/2013 4:43:42 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Kevmo

So they closed the last fab there? Sorry. I guess it’s all design centers generating the traffic on the freeways. So, since it’s dead, I assume the property is cheap again. Where’s it good to buy?

IOW, what are we making to justify SV if nothing’s “made” there anymore?


20 posted on 04/12/2013 5:03:27 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: Lexinom

We’ve spent a month trying to get a brand new laptop working past the horror of Windows8. Mr. Gates and company are pros at making every new thing they come up with turn out incompatible with the rest of the working cyber world.


21 posted on 04/12/2013 5:10:46 PM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Lexinom

Thanks. I will forward this to our hardware guy. Maybe Lotus will pick up a bit more business.


22 posted on 04/12/2013 5:38:57 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: Lexinom

Which processor does it use? How about sharing some specs.


23 posted on 04/12/2013 5:40:42 PM PDT by raybbr (People who still support Obama are either a Marxist or a moron. No, they are both.)
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To: Baynative
We’ve spent a month trying to get a brand new laptop working past the horror of Windows8.

I tried that for the first time a couple of weeks ago. 8 is the most unuseable OS I have seen. It is an intuitive software that lacks the intuitive.

24 posted on 04/12/2013 5:49:07 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: Kirkwood
He'll ship it with no OS if you ask for it. Saves a few bucks off the price.

Ubuntu does everything I want. I've finally made the switch to 100% linux. For my Windows customers there's Remmina, which lets me log onto their Windows systems each week to do my work.

There's Bumblebee which gets around the nVidia nIdiots' lack of support for Linux so I can run processor-intensive 3D programs and take advantage of the video hardware.

Plus, Linux is about 50% faster out of the box than Windows because it lacks the complex plug-and-play layers that keeps Windows slow and heavy.

25 posted on 04/12/2013 5:54:06 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Cyber Liberty

Many of them are not. Yes there are still foundries in Arizona and Texas but not all chips are made there and Hong Kong Singapore, and Japan have very active chip production foundries.

The fact that you don’t know that suggests you do not know the field as well as you like to think


26 posted on 04/12/2013 5:54:47 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Lexinom

no disagreement here....will support every possible company I can


27 posted on 04/12/2013 5:55:46 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Baynative

Give Linux a chance. It’s not the Linux of 10 years ago. Get the GNOME desktop (avoid Unity like the plague), and I think you might be pleasantly impressed.


28 posted on 04/12/2013 5:55:47 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: andyk

sure


29 posted on 04/12/2013 5:58:34 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: Cyber Liberty
I can’t believe there are so many on this thread so quick to believe Integrated Circuit chips are no longer made in the US.

List of Fab Plants

30 posted on 04/12/2013 5:59:20 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: nascarnation
Well, there's "made" and there's "made". American engineers work in tools like those by Cadence and Synopsis to create the VLSI design, which they'll often first prototype with FPGAs.

Once the design is done, the task of mass producing the integrated circuits is shipped off to Philippines, Malaysia, or China. Silicon wafers, cut from cleanroom-grown crystals, hold dozens of rectangular future integrated circuits which are precisely machined and sanded, masked per the American engineers' VLSI design, doped with boron and phosphorous to form the N and P channels, masked and etched for the metal oxide gates, packaged into what we think of as an "integrated circuit", QA tested, and delivered.

I believe that at one time Phoenix, AZ was a hotbed for chip fabrication.

The creative and analytical aspects of the development still originate here in the U.S.

31 posted on 04/12/2013 6:04:05 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Cyber Liberty

IOW, what are we making to justify SV if nothing’s “made” there anymore?
***Intellectual Property. Once that goes overseas, then the property will be cheap again.


32 posted on 04/12/2013 6:23:54 PM PDT by Kevmo ("A person's a person, no matter how small" ~Horton Hears a Who)
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To: Lexinom

I know desk tops are not as handy as a laptop, but desk tops can be easily upgraded. I had my desk top custom built in 2006 for about $900. I recently moved from Windows XP to Windows 7 and had my son-in-law handle the rebuild. I replaced the mother board and chip set, upgraded my wireless card, added 4GB of faster RAM and upgraded my power supply. My total cost of the upgrade was about $300 not including the Windows 7 software. I was able to reuse my case, monitor and hard drive. The result is fast, stable and runs Windows 7 effortlessly.


33 posted on 04/12/2013 7:29:06 PM PDT by The Great RJ
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To: The Great RJ
No, I agree with you on desktops vs. laptops. It's just that I'm separated from my family and living in a small space through the benevolence of extended family, so space is a primary concern.

I couldn't be happier with this laptop. Even the graphics accelerator works under Linux - but only for those apps for which you tell it to work, which I like. "Bumblebee" is the name of the package.

34 posted on 04/12/2013 7:57:22 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Nifster

I guess not. I think I waste a lot of time every week.


35 posted on 04/12/2013 10:18:23 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (I am a dissident. Will you join me? My name is John....)
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To: raybbr
It's the Solstice-15. The only non-basic option I requested was the high-res screen. It rocks! Other models are even faster.
36 posted on 04/12/2013 11:54:03 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: jwsea55

Windows 8 is crap, arguably worse than Vista.


37 posted on 04/12/2013 11:58:12 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
Windows 8 is crap, arguably worse than Vista.

At this point, it may not even be arguable.

38 posted on 04/13/2013 11:43:19 AM PDT by jwsea55
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To: jwsea55

Page down.

Looks like most are in Taiwan, and the US plants are increasingly majority older.

We need to turn around America now. We need to bring hi-tech manufacturing back, and we need to return basic manufacturing.

Look in any store now. Look at the “Made in...” stickers.

All in China.


39 posted on 04/13/2013 11:50:48 AM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network
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To: Cringing Negativism Network
We need to turn around America now. We need to bring hi-tech manufacturing back, and we need to return basic manufacturing.

Intel talked about wanting to build plants in the US a year or two ago. Basically it came down to the costs of putting a plant in the US are significantly more than outside. The regulatory approval process is upto 5 times as long...with no guarantee of approval. You would think that Americans would be lining up to greet a company that is going to drop $1 - 6 billion in the local community. No, we tell them to go find some place else. People are getting the government they are voting for.

Arizona pulled a big one a couple of years ago... Intel in Arizona Intel basically said never to Kalifornia.

40 posted on 04/13/2013 1:35:32 PM PDT by jwsea55
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To: jwsea55

Well, I’ve interviewed with them nine times, the last one being (I think) 2007. They had a chance to hire me - a guy who solves problems in the context of the big picture rather than a trained circus bear who can cite chapter and verse. They chose not to. Their mistake.


41 posted on 04/13/2013 2:39:49 PM PDT by Lexinom
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To: Lexinom
9 interviews. Impressive.

Good luck on your current venture. Maybe this was God's path to greater prosperity.

42 posted on 04/13/2013 4:13:17 PM PDT by jwsea55
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