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NRA "benefit"

Posted on 04/20/2013 4:26:47 AM PDT by CPONav

My email to the NRA;


TOPICS: Hobbies
KEYWORDS:
I recently received a DVD from you on home defense/combat shooting. I did not request this and don't want it. However, after reading the accompanying information, I see that I have to take time out of my day to return it or I will be charged for the DVD. This is unacceptable in every way. I'm sure that there is a small print clause in my membership contract that allows you to do this, but I expect better from this organization. The NRA does a lot of good for weapons owners, but "benefits" of this type shows that the NRA is petty, sneaky, and less than truthful. Wow, that's exactly what the liberal media accuses the NRA of being! If you send me any more items with this type of "agreement", you will lose a member and have one more person that publicly calls you out and cuts you down. This is your one chance. You won't get another.
1 posted on 04/20/2013 4:26:47 AM PDT by CPONav
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To: CPONav
I will be charged for the DVD.

So how are they going to charge you if they don't have any bank account information?

2 posted on 04/20/2013 4:33:55 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: Hot Tabasco

They can either bill me or use the acct that I paid my membership dues with.


3 posted on 04/20/2013 4:42:32 AM PDT by CPONav
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To: CPONav

This is news?


4 posted on 04/20/2013 4:46:39 AM PDT by AdaGray
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To: CPONav

In correct and a basic “we gave you something” so you owe us BS. I’m a huge NRA fan but if you receive “anything” in the mail you didn’t ask for then it’s yours to keep no questions asked.


5 posted on 04/20/2013 4:46:58 AM PDT by maddog55 (America Rising.... Civil War II)
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To: CPONav

I got one of these a year or so ago.

I never replied.

I never heard from them.

Don’t worry about it.


6 posted on 04/20/2013 4:49:09 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: Westbrook

send to me.will give you my address in private email


7 posted on 04/20/2013 4:57:19 AM PDT by nikos1121
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To: maddog55

Bingo. Holds true for anything you receive in the mail. And if they charge the credit card you used to pay your membership fees, tell the card company.


8 posted on 04/20/2013 4:58:43 AM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: CPONav

If you are sent something unsolicited, it’s yours. You neither have to return it, nor pay for it.


9 posted on 04/20/2013 4:59:03 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I shall defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: CPONav

i love the NRA, but they treat their members like they all have alzheimers. each time i have joined, i have gotten bills for renewal within 3 months.


10 posted on 04/20/2013 4:59:08 AM PDT by jjw
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To: CPONav

Did they actually say that they would “bill you” or did they just say something like, “This is a $29 value, please send your $10 today.”

Also, did they specifically say that you had to return CD if you didn’t pay?

This sounds more like the envelopes with a $1 bill in them, the are working on the hope that you will respond.


11 posted on 04/20/2013 5:01:07 AM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: CPONav
Yawn, here we go again.......

You don’t have to pay anything, it’s just a promo disk…..Already been discussed here.

12 posted on 04/20/2013 5:01:12 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: jjw

I am a life member. I also paid for my 3 sons life membership 5 years ago. I have gotten these “gifts” in the past and purposely ignored them.

However 2 weeks ago in the hoopla building up to the senate bill I wrote the NRA ILA a very generous check. I can’t do this on a regular basis since I am now on a fixed income. I pick my battles and this is a huge one we are in the middle of.
If you are going to donate, make sure it goes to either the PVF, or the ILA.

MOLON LABE


13 posted on 04/20/2013 5:07:20 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight,, he'll just kill you.)
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To: CPONav

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

True Grit / Life Member


14 posted on 04/20/2013 5:09:23 AM PDT by True Grit
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To: CPONav
The NRA does a lot of good for weapons owners ... the NRA.

NRA membership represents about 2% of gun owners in the USA. Their prime directive is generating revenue and consolidating control of the firearms discussion.

The NRA wants, no demands, a 100% monopoly on firearms training, gun ranges, CCW training and certification, and whatever other segment of the firearms market they can get.

People used, bought, sold, traded, made, and trained with firearms and related equipment long before the NRA existed. People discussed firearms ownership long before the NRA enter the conversation.

The NRA has some useful training materials and info, but it is only ONE of MANY sources for such training.

Any group trying to establish a monopoly on any segment of a free society should send up warning flags for everyone.

15 posted on 04/20/2013 5:21:50 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Westbrook

I got one of these a year or so ago.

I never replied.

I never heard from them.

Don’t worry about it.


Ditto.

I threw the disk away and, when they dunned me, I threw that away.

Courts settled that LONG ago — unsolicited mdse is yours to keep.


16 posted on 04/20/2013 5:29:58 AM PDT by Peet (Come back with a warrant.)
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To: Westbrook

Same here


17 posted on 04/20/2013 5:36:51 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: CPONav

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygku8mb_RWY&sns=em

Seems simple and upfront if this is same DVD pack ya got from NRA ...


18 posted on 04/20/2013 5:41:58 AM PDT by Squantos ( Be polite, be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet ...)
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To: CPONav

I do wish the NRA would send some of its mail in evelopes that are less official looking.

Everytime I see one in my mailbox, my first thought is its from the government and what did I do now!


19 posted on 04/20/2013 5:43:37 AM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: CPONav

If you read the materials closely, you’ll see a “you don’t actually have to pay for this thing” bit on the bottom of the letter. You’ll also probably see that it really isn’t the NRA sending it to you, but a third party company acting on behalf of the NRA.

As said in several previous posts, you are not obligated to respond, however that company likes to pretend it’s collecting on a bill and may send you another reminder, and another, all with that small print at the bottom.

It doesn’t encourage me to continue support for the NRA, and significantly erodes my trust in the organization. I’m already a life member, so there’s no annual dues to cancel or effect of cancelling my membership. They won’t see any more money from me though, not with these behaviors.


20 posted on 04/20/2013 6:01:08 AM PDT by jz638
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To: CPONav

We (seamstresses) have received the same sort of “benefit” from Sew News. We are legally able to keep the dvd. It was not requested by you...Of course the co. doing this sent several letters demanding $$$$. Sew News told us to ignore.

This is most likely through the magazine, not directly the NRA.


21 posted on 04/20/2013 6:39:53 AM PDT by madison10
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To: meadsjn

Just why do you think the President was so quick to blame the NRA for defeat of the latest gun legislation?


22 posted on 04/20/2013 6:41:08 AM PDT by True Grit
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To: CPONav

Not to worry. Ignore the demand for payment, and keep the DVD. They cannot win on this. You just got a free DVD. You may also want to be absolutely sure was from the NRA. I find this highly unusual.


23 posted on 04/20/2013 6:58:09 AM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: rw4site

If ya got time, check out the video at post #18


24 posted on 04/20/2013 7:00:48 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (This space for rent)
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To: CPONav

They have to fund the lobbyists


25 posted on 04/20/2013 7:45:06 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: True Grit
Just why do you think the President was so quick to blame the NRA for defeat of the latest gun legislation?

The left uses the NRA as a talking point precisely because it is such a small minority of gunowners, and can be demonized as a small vocal minority of gun owners and citizens.

Alinsky's Rule 11: Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, polarize it. Don’t try to attack abstract corporations or bureaucracies. Identify a responsible individual. Ignore attempts to shift or spread the blame.

The problem for the anti-gunners with Rule 11 is that their target actually is 150 million autonomous individuals, with no particular leader or representative that can be thusly targeted, frozen, personalized, polarized, and destroyed. We are the kind of diversity the left dreams of: men, women, children, and other creatures from every conceivable background, and not all belonging to any particular group that can be easily targeted and destroyed. We are that crazy, whacky super-majority of citizens and voters. No, that doesn't work so well as a talking point.

The "NRA" and its president can be individualized and attacked as such. That crazy, whacky organization of about three million people, led by this one crazy, whacky person. That works a little better for the leftist talking points, even though their whole side of the issue is a long string of losing arguments.

That is also why they have to attack "the gun", an inanimate object.

26 posted on 04/20/2013 8:10:51 AM PDT by meadsjn
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To: maddog55

“if you receive “anything” in the mail you didn’t ask for then it’s yours to keep no questions asked.”

Yep, that’s been the Federal law for several decades.

Not to mention you can simply purge any CC charge that might have been made by calling your CC company.

It makes me wonder if the NRA simply had really tricky wording that just made it SEEM like you had to pay for it. I get all kinds of scam letters like that all the time.


27 posted on 04/20/2013 9:00:11 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: jjw

“i love the NRA, but they treat their members like they all have alzheimers. each time i have joined, i have gotten bills for renewal within 3 months.”

Yeah, and their supposed benefits and discounts are a joke too, just like aarp. In either case, call about their supposed wonderful auto insurance discounts, spend several hours giving your life history over the phone, and then find out the insurance is Hartford, and their “discounted” costs are double what you are already paying to State Farm or whomever.


28 posted on 04/20/2013 9:03:17 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Age of Reason

“Everytime I see one in my mailbox, my first thought is its from the government and what did I do now!”

Guilty conscious.

Actually, I know how you feel. I’m an FFL and occasionally receive official mail from the Colorado Bureau of Investigation (CBI), ATF or the Treasury Department. My heart always skips a beat before I realize it’s probably just some form letter with some reg change.

BTW, those skipped heart beats are a symptom of living in a fascist society.


29 posted on 04/20/2013 9:08:16 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: CPONav

I recently received a DVD from you on home defense/combat shooting. I did not request this and don’t want it. However, after reading the accompanying information, I see that I have to take time out of my day to return it or I will be charged for the DVD.


The VFW did this to me. That’s one of the reasons I’m no longer a member. I wrote them a scathing letter and included it in the return envelope. I told them if the DVD was offered in their magazine, I might have ordered it.

I suggested they shift their advertising from hearing aides, stretchy slacks and luggage and try to target the demographics of today’s war vets.


30 posted on 04/20/2013 9:18:21 AM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: meadsjn

NRA currently claims a membership of 4.5 million. While magazine subscriptions suggest this number a tad inflated most agree on a number around four million and growing. Add to this number those thousands of nonmembers who generally agree and support the NRA agenda and you have a political force few politicians choose to ignore. If not for NRA supporters current laws regulating gun ownership would be much more restrictive.


31 posted on 04/20/2013 10:45:21 AM PDT by True Grit
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