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Last rhinos in Mozambique killed by poachers (not RINO)
telegraph.co.uk ^ | 30 Apr 2013 | Aislinn Laing, Johannesburg

Posted on 05/01/2013 5:46:16 AM PDT by kimtom

The 15 threatened animals were shot dead for their horns last month in the Mozambican part of Great Limpopo Transfrontier Park, which also covers South Africa and Zimbabwe.

They were thought to be the last of an estimated 300 that roamed through the special conservation area when it was established as "the world's greatest animal kingdom" in a treaty signed by the three countries' then presidents in 2002.

The latest deaths, and Mozambique's failure to tackle poaching, has prompted threats by South Africa to re-erect fences between their reserves.

Wildlife authorities believe the poachers were able to track the rhinoceroses with the help of game rangers working in the Limpopo National Park, as the Mozambican side of the reserve is known.

A total of 30 rangers are due in court in the coming weeks, charged with collusion in the creatures' deaths, according to the park's administrators.

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Conservationists say the poorly-paid rangers were vulnerable to corruption by organised poaching gangs, who target rhinoceroses for their horns which are prized in Asia for their reputed aphrodisiac and cancer-curing properties.

The trade in rhino horn has seen the numbers of rhino killed spiral in recent years. Over the border in Kruger, the South African part of the transfrontier park, 180 have been killed so far this year, out of a national total of 249. Last year, 668 rhino were poached in South Africa, a 50 per cent increase over the previous year.

Kelvin Alie, from the International Fund for Animal Welfare, said the fact that the rangers may have been turned while working on such an important ....

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TOPICS: Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: africa; mozambique; poachers; rhino; wildlife
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1 posted on 05/01/2013 5:46:16 AM PDT by kimtom
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To: kimtom

2 posted on 05/01/2013 5:47:52 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

If we import those poachers, will they kill RINOs?

If so, let’s start the importing process.


3 posted on 05/01/2013 5:49:17 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: kimtom

Just yesterday someone was saying this could never happen to elephants in the wild


4 posted on 05/01/2013 5:50:36 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: kimtom
Human life should always be valued over animals. Except in this case.

There ought to be big game hunting trips, with poachers as the game, available.

5 posted on 05/01/2013 5:51:25 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: kimtom

Sad indeed. And a good reminder that wealthy, Capitalist countries are better at preserving wildlife diversity than poor, Socialist countries (which is what Mozambique has been for most of its existence). Unlike what most environmentalists claim, the wealth generated by Capitalism results in people being less likely to make a living poaching, and to be more interested and have more wealth to donate to preserving animals like the rhino.


6 posted on 05/01/2013 5:51:50 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: kimtom

Just remember, it’s the Chinese commies that love them some rhino horns. And, now they have lots of money to pay the poachers.

Cheers


7 posted on 05/01/2013 5:54:23 AM PDT by DoctorBulldog (Obama sucks. End of story.)
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To: kimtom

so basically they were killed for what is essentially the same material you have in your fingernails.

I am NOT a tree-hugger at all but this is sensleess idiocy and should be prohibitted.

But the problem is not on the SUPPLY end- that just makes it more scarce and more expensive. And rich people are often happy to spend money on useless crap to show they can.

The solution is to farm them, and let free enterprise solve it.


8 posted on 05/01/2013 5:55:01 AM PDT by Mr. K (There are lies, damned lies, statistics, and democrat talking points.)
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To: kimtom

Countdown 3,2,1

“don’t believe it! it sounds like the global warming con! it’s a hippy-commie-muslim conspiracy to take our guns away!”

Yes, it’s incredibly sad. But expect lots of posts denying rhinoceros’s are in danger.


9 posted on 05/01/2013 5:55:44 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: kimtom

10 posted on 05/01/2013 5:55:46 AM PDT by dontreadthis
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To: stuartcr

At the present rate of slaughter, they’ll all be gone in 20-25yrs (something like those numbers). There was an article about it last week.


11 posted on 05/01/2013 5:58:52 AM PDT by carriage_hill (AR-10s & AR-15s are the Muskets of the 21st Century. Free men need not ask permission.)
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To: Mr. K
The solution is to farm them, and let free enterprise solve it.

African nations with stability have effectively monetized the wildlife and are doing well with it. Basically its a typical African problem that we aren't going to fix no matter how much money we throw at it by choice or by force.
12 posted on 05/01/2013 5:59:45 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: carriage_hill

Maybe some of those freepers will read this article.


13 posted on 05/01/2013 6:01:57 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Mr. K

Actually, a rhino horn is made of hair.

Yes, they were killed for what you cut every 3-6 weeks.


14 posted on 05/01/2013 6:02:10 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: DoctorBulldog

15 posted on 05/01/2013 6:07:45 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: kimtom

It will be the same here in our urban locales when their 3-to-4 day supply of subsistence has vanished and the EBT cards haven’t been charged. One big gluttonous pigfest followed by rampant violence, just for violence’s sake.


16 posted on 05/01/2013 6:08:21 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: kimtom

Note to self: when TSHTF, import poachers.


17 posted on 05/01/2013 6:10:02 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: stuartcr

How much $ is each rhino worth to a poacher? Why not set a bounty on poachers dead or alive? $5000/head for instance. Make it a lucrative and easy business to start.


18 posted on 05/01/2013 6:14:07 AM PDT by virgil
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To: kimtom

Quit abusing the Activism sidebar.


19 posted on 05/01/2013 6:15:53 AM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: kimtom

Mozambique’s failure to tackle poaching, has prompted threats by South Africa to re-erect fences between their reserves.
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Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Theres a lesson there for sure...

fences are necessary if the local species are to be protected from interlopers...


20 posted on 05/01/2013 6:17:57 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: virgil

I was watching a report on the BBC this morning. In west Africa former “rebel” leaders are getting rich on allowances paid for not fighting. In fact the wealthiest are getting big money to protect the oil infrastructure they once destroyed. Meanwhile, everyone else is still dirt poor.

Maybe its just me but that seems like a real ass backward way of dealing with things.


21 posted on 05/01/2013 6:21:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: virgil
How much $ is each rhino worth to a poacher? Why not set a bounty on poachers dead or alive? $5000/head for instance. Make it a lucrative and easy business to start.

I thought of that too, but the problem is with that kind of bounty, you're going to suddenly find all kinds of 'poachers' with conveniently placed AK47s at their sides, being shot dead by corrupt rangers, sort of tips things the other way...
22 posted on 05/01/2013 6:23:40 AM PDT by battousai (Conservatives are racist? YES, I hate stupid white liberals.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Capitalist countries don’t have that many exotic big animals in the wild, do they?


23 posted on 05/01/2013 6:28:51 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: stuartcr

Just yesterday someone was saying this could never happen to elephants in the wild


Exactly.


24 posted on 05/01/2013 6:29:42 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: chessplayer

Like the ones about the elephants.


25 posted on 05/01/2013 6:29:42 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Gaffer

First gigantic stretch of the day.


26 posted on 05/01/2013 6:31:01 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: virgil

I don’t know.


27 posted on 05/01/2013 6:31:26 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Sad indeed. And a good reminder that wealthy, Capitalist countries are better at preserving wildlife diversity than poor,


It is the increasingly rich populations in capitalist Asian countries that are demanding more and more ivory and rhino horns.


28 posted on 05/01/2013 6:32:44 AM PDT by chessplayer
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To: stuartcr

meh....


29 posted on 05/01/2013 6:34:59 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: cripplecreek
I was watching a report on the BBC this morning. In west Africa former “rebel” leaders are getting rich on allowances paid for not fighting. In fact the wealthiest are getting big money to protect the oil infrastructure they once destroyed. Meanwhile, everyone else is still dirt poor. Maybe its just me but that seems like a real ass backward way of dealing with things.

Sounds a lot like the mafia "protection rackets."

30 posted on 05/01/2013 6:37:05 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kimtom
There are probably plenty of them living in zoos in the US.

There are more Black Buck Antelope in Texas than there are in their original homeland, maybe it's Pakistan. We have a herd of Black Bucks on our ranch and they are multiplying like rabbits.

31 posted on 05/01/2013 6:43:18 AM PDT by Ditter
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Sounds a lot like the mafia "protection rackets."

And that's exactly how they often deal with these poachers. They're paid to protect what wouldn't need protecting if they didn't exist.

We can wring our hands over this stuff all we want but in the end all they want is money so they can pretend to be doing something.
32 posted on 05/01/2013 6:46:15 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Ditter

When the only few remaining elephants, rhinos, tiger, lions, etc. will be the ones confined to zoos, poachers will find a way to get at them too.


33 posted on 05/01/2013 6:48:58 AM PDT by chessplayer
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“..There are probably plenty of them living in zoos in the US....”

...and when they are gone from the wild, the price will go up and zoos won’t be safe.
even elephants will multiply fast if given enough food supply, range and left alone...


34 posted on 05/01/2013 6:53:48 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Admin Moderator

Haaaah


35 posted on 05/01/2013 6:58:22 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: kimtom

Can we poach liberals?


36 posted on 05/01/2013 7:04:44 AM PDT by GeronL (http://asspos.blogspot.com)
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Will poachers in the US really go into zoos to slaughter rino’s? I can't see that happening.
37 posted on 05/01/2013 7:06:35 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: battousai

The bounty hunters can get AKs too, and the rangers can’t kill everybody if they’re coming from all over to catch poachers. They’ll all be too busy watching their backs to be hunting rhinos, though. It’s a wild west approach, I’ll admit, but it would make the trade a lot more dangerous and perhaps lead to its collapse altogether. Hanging people for poaching the King’s game is not new.


38 posted on 05/01/2013 7:13:39 AM PDT by virgil
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To: Ditter

Celebrate diversity! The solution would be to farm these animals, but the environmental extremists think that’s cruel. So instead, the animals face extinction. Same thing with tigers. If it were legal to farm them, they would not be on the same path.


39 posted on 05/01/2013 7:17:40 AM PDT by Phillyred
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Some days ya feel like you’ve wandered into the democrat underground. LOL

The simple fact is that the standard of living here is too high to ever make “Zoo poaching” (LOL) even remotely profitable. The guys poaching them in Africa are making big bucks by their standards but by ours its nothing. The real money is being made by the international dealers and the USA is already locked down pretty tight on that front.


40 posted on 05/01/2013 7:19:33 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: virgil

So, the problem is that African governments are insufficiently totalitarian?


41 posted on 05/01/2013 7:20:25 AM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Ditter

Probably the rich Chinese will just buy them all


42 posted on 05/01/2013 7:23:44 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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Poachers killed all the dinosaurs..must have...for their teeth I bet...


43 posted on 05/01/2013 7:38:50 AM PDT by Youngman542012
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

Not quite. Socialist Tanzania did a pretty good job for a long time preserving its big game animals.

How? By allowing legal hunting - which I believe it still does. Kenya, which outlawed hunting in 1976, saw its herds devastated by poaching.


44 posted on 05/01/2013 7:41:14 AM PDT by karnage
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Here's an article about de-horning white rhinos. Apparently, it does little to deter poaching. I didn't know they were nearly extinct once before.

"In 1895, there were only 20 to 50 animals alive in the wild.
Today, the population of white rhinos in southern Africa has grown to 17,500, with 750 more in captive breeding programs around the world, according to ARKive. I don't know how they got from 50 to 17,500, but it's a nice success story."

http://veggierevolution.blogspot.com/2009/08/with-chain-saw-he-cut-off-rhinos.html

45 posted on 05/01/2013 7:48:12 AM PDT by Spirochete (Sic transit gloria mundi)
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To: Youngman542012

I think it was either for their nads


46 posted on 05/01/2013 7:51:05 AM PDT by stuartcr ("I have habits that are older than the people telling me they're bad for me.")
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To: Ditter

Will poachers in the US really go into zoos to slaughter rino’s? I can’t see that happening.


In some African countries poachers are killed on sight per govt orders. They won’t be afraid to try to get into zoos.


47 posted on 05/01/2013 8:00:56 AM PDT by chessplayer
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maybe not US,, how good is security anyway.

Park Rangers were bought off.


48 posted on 05/01/2013 8:08:58 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Spirochete

Good post.

With help, animals can recover quickly.(relative terms)


49 posted on 05/01/2013 8:10:25 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: Youngman542012

“..Poachers killed all the dinosaurs..must have...for their teeth I bet......”

Why Not??? for same reasons. (maybe not “all”)


50 posted on 05/01/2013 8:13:35 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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