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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 21, 2013
Free Republic | May 24, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 05/24/2013 3:09:29 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

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OOOOOHHHHH WOW. Today was the last day of school. That combined with late P/T appointment means I am late to my Friday relaxation (Garden Thread), and totally worn out to boot. LOL

Well, just when we thought that good weather was truly here, we had a dip in the temps down to the 40's. Not good for the melons or tomatoes.

I got a lot of the beds prepared. Potatoes planted, peanuts planted, corn planted, watermelon planted, peppers planted, and rosemary.

Melons didn't flourish. So I'll try again with the extras. Tomatoes I went ahead and just brought them back indoors in the 3 inch pots.

Lettuce and spincah is growing like crazy. High winds Monday broke one of our young apple trees in half. So thankful we avoided the tornadoes-they passed north and south of us. Hope you are all well and not unduly put out by the stormy weather too.

Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 05/24/2013 3:09:29 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes

Greeneyes your weekly thread here is golden—or would that be green instead? (’


2 posted on 05/24/2013 3:12:43 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: greeneyes

Frost warnings tonight in Northern Ohio. Glad I haven’t planted anything yet!


3 posted on 05/24/2013 3:14:19 PM PDT by Dr. Bogus Pachysandra ( Ya can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list.


4 posted on 05/24/2013 3:16:34 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: tflabo

Maybe both.LOL Golden waves of grain and plenty of greens.LOL


5 posted on 05/24/2013 3:17:32 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Frost advisory here tonight but I doubt we’ll get it.


6 posted on 05/24/2013 3:17:46 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: greeneyes

We dropped to 32 this a.m. It was not as bad as forecast, thankfully, as the fruit trees are in full bloom. The next couple of days will be lucky to see 60F but the nights won’t go below 40. The chickens are finally heading out to the chicken tractor on Sunday...4 more weeks and they’ll be in the freezer. Late springs focus a lot growing into a short period resulting in more color. The Lilacs are having a banner year all across the northern midwest.


7 posted on 05/24/2013 3:18:52 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra

Boy ain’t it the truth! LOL


8 posted on 05/24/2013 3:18:53 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; All

Anyone up there in the northern climes using cold frames to harden off the seedlings before planting to the garden?


9 posted on 05/24/2013 3:23:10 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: greeneyes; ilovesarah2012

Ping to the list- you’ll be added.


10 posted on 05/24/2013 3:24:42 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: cripplecreek

Hope you are right.


11 posted on 05/24/2013 3:26:25 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: gorush

How old are your chickens when you process them? Around here they get ordered around easter and processed in September.


12 posted on 05/24/2013 3:27:46 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
It's in the low 80s here. When the cold front moved through earlier in the week (following the storms), it dipped down to 59, but I dont expect to see that kind of temp again until fall.

Everything is doing pretty good. I got some damage from the storms to my sunflowers and the tobacco got a little beat up, but everything is growing well.

The tobacco finally started growing UP instead of out. I harvested the bottom leaves and they are hanging in the kitchen to cure.

And we got another 1/3" of rain today. The drought is officially over as far as I'm concerned.

/johnny

13 posted on 05/24/2013 3:28:11 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

My daughter-in-law and I skirted that Oklahoma mess on Monday when we were coming home from that area. Stopped in Nevada MO and St Jo Mo and spent some time- many large trees twisted and down. One huge tree we saw barely missed the house it was near. Another one missed most of the house but not the large porch. Sad to see. Sad for the homeowners too.

Roses were in full blown in northwestern Arkansas. Of course- it is just that being in south central Nebraska the roses are still to come. We have been having trouble in the day time getting very much into the 60s; That will change soon enough and we will be melting.


14 posted on 05/24/2013 3:28:46 PM PDT by handmade
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To: tflabo

I don’t really use a cold frame. I use something similar, except I use a row cover instead of glass. That way sun and rain gets through to a certain extent, and it doesn’t overheat or get sunburned.

I also have a side yard that gets a limited amount of sun, so I put a lot of plants from the indoors out there to adjust.


15 posted on 05/24/2013 3:31:51 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Knock on wood. Hope that drought is really and truly over for all you guys.


16 posted on 05/24/2013 3:33:13 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: handmade
Glad you were able to navigate through the mess on Monday.
17 posted on 05/24/2013 3:34:35 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
My tomatoes have been invaded by leaf-footed bugs. I'm getting ready to pick 'em off and put them in a pail of soapy water.

In other news, we had a horrible storm with hail and strong winds earlier this week. My neighbor lost his porch roof and we were without power most of the night ... I got to try out my new lil generator from Harbor Freight. It worked! The next morning I discovered a lot of my corn plants lying on their sides. I tried lifting them up ... waiting to see what happens.

18 posted on 05/24/2013 3:35:02 PM PDT by Alice in Wonderland
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; greeneyes
In the last 24 hrs, we had a high of 94 and a low of 73.

I came home from doctor and x-rays about 11:30 and bout died in the heat, fortunately I set the A/C to come on before I left.

I'm gettin impatient watching these maters, I am about ready to pick some for fried green tomatos this weekend. We have been eating green onions for a few weeks, but not picked anything else yet. I am really looking forward to see how well the watermelons and cantaloupes do since this will be our first time.

Hope everybody came through the Ok. and Tx. storms okay with no damage or injuries. Praying for those involved and for those lost.

19 posted on 05/24/2013 3:38:18 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I can't seem to keep a tagline; don't know where they go to.)
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To: greeneyes
I've had some luck with the leeks this year; one of the advantages in living in the Peoples' Republik of Kalifornia.


20 posted on 05/24/2013 3:38:30 PM PDT by South40
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To: greeneyes

This Cornish/Rock cross we got this year take 8 weeks after the chicks arrive. We remove the food at night as they will often outgrow their legs if left unchecked. This is our second year doing chickens. Last years breed took 12 weeks. This years “frankenbirds” growth rate is amazing. We may do a second run as we now have two chicken tractors in use...which make a marvelous mulch in the garden.


21 posted on 05/24/2013 3:39:39 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Alice in Wonderland

Glad you made it through the storms.


22 posted on 05/24/2013 3:40:52 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

In the 80s here also, but feels like it’s hotter. I weeded, lopped branches off crepe myrtles, mowed my entire yard, then weed-whacked just the back yard today, before I finally had to call it a day. When I got in, my clothes were drenched through to my skin. A shower revived me, but I dread the long, hot summer that’s starting. Oh, my aching back.


23 posted on 05/24/2013 3:42:33 PM PDT by Old Grumpy
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To: rightly_dividing

LOL. You might want to plant some sort of early tomato that matures in about 60 days, and go ahead and start it indoors too. I always have trouble waiting for the maters too.LOL


24 posted on 05/24/2013 3:43:26 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: South40

I hear these are a really good cash crop and great nutrition even if you don’t want to sell them.


25 posted on 05/24/2013 3:44:31 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

They’re only about a $1.50 a lb at the market. I would never sell them, but I sure do love to eat them.


26 posted on 05/24/2013 3:47:46 PM PDT by South40
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To: Old Grumpy
It's not too bad. I work outside early in the AM and stay inside during the heat.

/johnny

27 posted on 05/24/2013 3:49:42 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
I forgot to mention that when I was turning my compost pile, I found a large live root, so I pulled it up, and it was attached to a pecan, along with another big root. So I grabbed a pot and planted it in some of the compost it was living in. I don't know if it will make it, but I'm going to give it a shot.

/johnny

28 posted on 05/24/2013 3:52:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I love pecans. Good luck with it.


29 posted on 05/24/2013 3:56:25 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Glad things are looking up at your piece of Tx.

We have been having a good bit of slow drizzling rain over the last two weeks, and most of the spring, actually. We have grass runners going toward the bare spots from the drought and we trans-planted some grass plugs along with spreading some grass seed earlier this spring that is also doing good. Slow rain and spreading grass runners are important to us because we live on a hill were erosion control is important. At the height of the drought, our soil was like beach sand for about a foot deep or more, and we have a shaded lot with very little sun. There was no sign of recovery last year, even though we had plenty of rain.

30 posted on 05/24/2013 3:56:54 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I can't seem to keep a tagline; don't know where they go to.)
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To: greeneyes

We did plant 3 Early Girls that are covered with maters. The Brandywine and Big Boys are bigger and closer to ripe. There are other varieties, but I don’t remember which is which. It is a year of experimenting with varieties for us.


31 posted on 05/24/2013 4:01:33 PM PDT by rightly_dividing (I can't seem to keep a tagline; don't know where they go to.)
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To: rightly_dividing
I had weeds like crazy this year, much more than the last 2 years. So much so, that I let some of the pretty ones grow.

And then I pulled them up and used them for ground cover and compost.

It seems to be working ok.

/johnny

32 posted on 05/24/2013 4:01:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rightly_dividing

Praying for everyone suffering from tornadoes, too. Our onions look great but I don’t understand things that are underground. Glad you’re enjoying your green onions!


33 posted on 05/24/2013 4:05:25 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (Only you can choose to give up your rights.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Holycow! I hope you get pecans in the future!


34 posted on 05/24/2013 4:07:39 PM PDT by Silentgypsy (Only you can choose to give up your rights.)
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To: greeneyes

Here in the southern reaches of Puget Sound we had a teaser of hot weather, then back to rain, wind and 60s temps. We’ve had good asparagus yields plus the beans, tomatoes, strawberries, peas, and cukes are all starting well in spite of the cool conditions. Our 92 rhododendrons are blooming beautifully. Compost is king.


35 posted on 05/24/2013 4:10:16 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Joe McCarthy was right.)
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To: rightly_dividing

I am always so impatient in spring, because I have all this beautiful lettuce and spincach and no tomatoes that are ripe for the salad. LOL.


36 posted on 05/24/2013 4:10:41 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: dainbramaged

Sounds like a potential for a great year.


37 posted on 05/24/2013 4:12:25 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
Starting a little cheapo project making self-watering containers for those hot, dry Tx summers. punching holes in the bottom for a straw with a twisted mop thread inside. Using waterproof epoxy glue to attach the straw below and checking on the drip regulation test. It aint pretty but works so far before testing in the garden.
38 posted on 05/24/2013 4:13:26 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: greeneyes

I thought I had been banned from the thread...


39 posted on 05/24/2013 4:25:35 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: tflabo

I have seen green gold... but the jeweler told me it was brass


40 posted on 05/24/2013 4:27:36 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: tflabo
Hey, whatever works is good. I've been known to use field expedient methods myself. ;)

/johnny

41 posted on 05/24/2013 4:30:35 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

It’s at 70 here now but was higher earlier. And muggy! We got about 1 1/4” of rain this afternoon. That’s good so I didn’t have to water the yard. It’s been so hot that I’ll take this weather any time.

The poison whatever has mostly quit itching and is starting to heal. Still haven’t figured out what it was but the lettuce patch is gone, gone, gone.

Have blooms on the volunteer tomatoes and squash. Something ate the new transplants - again. The corn is starting to make.


42 posted on 05/24/2013 4:35:11 PM PDT by bgill (The problem is...no one is watching the Watch List!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Would you do me a favor and keep those weeds in Texas!!!


43 posted on 05/24/2013 4:38:39 PM PDT by tubebender (Evening news is where they begin with "Good Evening," and then proceed to tell you why it isn't.)
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To: tubebender
LOL! I'll keep 'em here. They love my yard.

Hey, I thought you were banned. ;)

/johnny

44 posted on 05/24/2013 4:40:19 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: rightly_dividing
We've got storms moving in again. We had 1/3 inch earlier today, and it's raining again now. I can stand this for a while.

/johnny

45 posted on 05/24/2013 5:01:33 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes
Continued hot here in the Phoenix area, but not as hot as it could be-- mostly high 90's-low 100's. Sometimes by the end of May we're getting up to 108 or so. The nights are still staying it cool and that makes a big difference.

All the planting is done; we're mostly in the gathering and weeding stage now. Mrs. fidelis has lots of tomatoes green on the vine, but it seems to me they're taking their time ripening up, except for the cherry tomatoes: they've been producing steadily, if not meagerly. We got lots of squash too, mostly zucchini which is great because it keeps me fixed for zucchini bread. Mrs. fidelis has a low carb recipe for Z bread that she's been slowly perfecting.

Sorry to hear about everyone's horrid weather. Our stormy season comes in July or so with the summer "monsoons". It can get nasty, but it's extremely rare to get tornadoes, etc.

46 posted on 05/24/2013 5:22:07 PM PDT by fidelis (Zonie and USAF Cold Warrior)
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To: rightly_dividing

We cheated this year and bought tomato plants from the store instead of starting them from seed. We’re trying to sell our house and I didn’t want the mess. Anyway, my 7 year old daughter and I split the first cherry tomatoe from our garden this afternoon. I almost cried tears of joy it was so good! Hope you don’t have to wait much longer!


47 posted on 05/24/2013 5:22:57 PM PDT by samiam1972 ("It is a poverty to decide that a child must die so that you may live as you wish."-Mother Teresa)
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To: greeneyes; JRandomFreeper
The good news is I didn't have a tornado where circulation was over my house and the weather channel kept saying they didn't know if it would drop to the ground so everyone in Conroe TAKE COVER! That was about 40 minutes until 12:20 am. Then, later, lightning and thunder were massive and that lasted until 3:30 am.

I don't know how much rain I got since the glass tube to measure it was in the kitchen to be cleaned. It's still there.

I had planted plants in six Miracle Gro bags and set them in the garden. Squirrels and birds ate the seeds out of four bags. One remaining bag is, I think, sweet peppers growing well. The other bag is, I think, Jalapeno peppers and they are growing well. No veggie on any of them yet.

The decision is, grow in containers covered with bird net and forget garden dirt. I have more heirloom seeds from Terroir Seeds and until two bird nets get here, nothing is getting planted.

I got the grow bags to put potting soil mix in as homes for the seeds and will set them in the dirt garden but that isn't going to happen until the nets get here. I'm not losing seed to animals murdering seed again. Seed is a living thing and animals (I include birds in animals) are murdering them. I would need many tombstones out there for all the seeds murdered.

The huge, round, composter came and I'm leaving it in the box as my son comes for a few days visit next week and he gets the pleasure of putting it together. He and I also need to load it with all those leaves that are everywhere and the whole garden area, including the upper deck and lower deck (lower one has a roof), needs cleaning up.

I'm still reading and learning and won't be planting until the son leaves to work on his documentary film, this time filming in Dallas.

Oh, yes, I've had ripe cherry tomatoes to eat. It's nice to know nothing has been sprayed on them and no one has handled them except me, the master gardener (to be). The Roma tomatoes are still growing and I have managed not to lose any from the freaking birds and squirrels.

48 posted on 05/24/2013 5:45:53 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. Going Galt is freedom.)
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To: Marcella

Marcella if you can mulch up those leaves with the mower and get them in smaller pieces for the compost the better and faster it will break down. I didnt do that with my oak leaves and they are taking a lot longer to break down to compost but next time I’m gonna mower them down first.


49 posted on 05/24/2013 6:06:48 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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50 posted on 05/24/2013 6:07:53 PM PDT by murrie (Mark Levin: Prosecuting stupidity nightly.)
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