[fieldmarshaldj]

Ah, and here is the premier IL Combiner apologist angling for repeal of the 17th and giving unbridled power to the Madigan axis of evil. I’m shocked... shocked !

[Jacquerie]

I ask again, tell me how the 17th better secured our liberty. Is there a single clause in the Bill of Rights that is in better shape today than a hundred years ago?

[BillyBoy]

Wow. So taking power AWAY from politicians and giving it to INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS is somehow increasing the stranglehold of the federal government? Interesting. As George Orwell would say, "War is Peace". I also love how they ignore the “OR to the people” section of the 10th amendment, because it doesn't gel with their fantasy that the founding fathers wanted state governments to be allowed to do whatever they want.

You'll have to forgive central_va and 1010RD, it is hard to think straight with their faces licking the underside of a state government boot.

The irony of these state government cheerleaders scream about the 17th amendment, of course, is that it became law because their beloved state legislatures ratified it. (not to mention their beloved state government appointed U.S. Senators gave us the 16th amendment, which they retroactively blame the 17th for, because it apparently also enabled politicians to jump in time machines and enact all the bad stuff that happened before the 17th existed).

Likewise, the 10th AMENDMENT was added AFTER the constitution was ratified. According to their OWN logic that we must NEVER EVER EVER change the “original” constitution that the founders enacted in 1789, the 10th amendment must be evil.

I'm not surprised to see combine cheerleader 1010RD is in favor of repealing the 17th. Over on the Christie thread, he actually thinks Christie might have appointed Steve Lonegan. His delusions would be funny if it weren't so sad.

[1010RD]

I’m winning and making a difference in Illinois. That takes compromise, particularly in America’s North Korea. Yep, I’ll work with other conservatives, RINOs, CINOs and Democrats on a case by case basis to move the ball forward.

I’m not a pouty purist posting. I believe in actions, not words.

Your pseudonymous ad hominem attacks amount to nothing. Jacquerie in battling it out in the arena of ideas. That’s where it starts. Inch by inch getting our country back.

By simply pointing out the importance of the Forgotten Separation of Powers, between the FedGov and the States will begin a shift in thought just like the one that’s become the ruling legal paradigm over the 2nd Amendment. Jacquerie deserves your praise, not your ridicule.

Take a look past your own myopia and think strategically and generationally.

[chicagolady]

Actually, I think he is Dan Proft