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timestax | June 12,2013 | timestax

Posted on 06/12/2013 6:27:51 AM PDT by timestax

This morning, first thing I see is a warning from Windows 7, that says the hard drive is in imminent danger of failing, and to immediately back up all files. What's up with this. Anybody else getting this. Could it be gubmint boys causing this or just normal failure. DELL laptop is about one year old. Otherwise, up till now =NO PROBLEMS. And ,YES it is turned on. PLEASE, no joking around this time.


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy; Education; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: computer; computerwarning; harddrive; harddrivefailure; windows7

1 posted on 06/12/2013 6:27:51 AM PDT by timestax
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To: timestax

Maybe your hard drive is failing and you should back up your important files.


2 posted on 06/12/2013 6:29:21 AM PDT by SoothingDave
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To: timestax

If it gives you an official-looking pop-up that promises to solve the problem, DO NOT CLICK.


3 posted on 06/12/2013 6:30:53 AM PDT by Nita Nupress
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To: timestax

It’s almost certainly a Trojan virus.


4 posted on 06/12/2013 6:31:56 AM PDT by andy58-in-nh (Cogito, ergo armatum sum.)
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To: timestax

More than likely, this is malware. If you click on it, it will download some crap you don’t want. If you really think your hard drive has some problems, buy a program that can do some diagnostics or take it to a service shop. More than likely, though, you are being conned and you should have run your anti-virus stuff to try to detect any infections.


5 posted on 06/12/2013 6:32:50 AM PDT by OrangeHoof (Our economy won't heal until one particular black man is unemployed.)
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To: timestax

Sounds like you might have a hard drive failure in your future. Back up your files and shop around for a good hard drive.

Mine did the same thing last year and yes it did eventually fail.


6 posted on 06/12/2013 6:32:52 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: timestax

Hard drives fail...even when the Rats aren’t in power.You’d be wise to try to save your data...now.Just in case.


7 posted on 06/12/2013 6:33:30 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Leno Was Right,They *Are* Undocumented Democrats!)
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To: timestax

Definitely back up, then find out what your situation is. You should be able to research the error message to see if it is legit


8 posted on 06/12/2013 6:33:35 AM PDT by big bad easter bunny (If it weren't for coffee I would still be living with my parents!)
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To: timestax
I don't believe that there is any reliable way to tell a hard drive "is in imminent danger of failing" unless it's emitting smoke or screeching like a banshee.

You have your important stuff backed up as a matter of routing anyway, right?

If you don't, get free 50-GB of storage at https://mega.co.nz/ and copy it up there right now.

9 posted on 06/12/2013 6:34:06 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("Forget it, Jake. It's Eric Holder's people.")
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To: timestax
It's entirely possible your HDD is failing. These warnings come from the SMART (Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology) system in your BIOS. It monitors read/write, cyclical rate, performs low-impact tests like CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Checks) and sector scans. If it's telling you that you HDD is failing, you really should get it backed up. If it's less than a year old, it's likely under warranty. Get Dell on the phone.

They'll often do an advance RMA and get you a new HDD. You replace the HDD, and you can hook up your old HDD with a SATA-to-USB adapter and boot into a utility like Ultimate Boot CD which has utilities to clone your HDD to the new one, and you'll be back online in no time.

I recently had a solid state hard drive fail on me after only 9 months. Newer tech CAN fail. Never put 100% trust on any hardware.

10 posted on 06/12/2013 6:34:07 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: timestax

Use some sort of online backup service and you will be a lot less worried, whether this is a malware hoax or not.


11 posted on 06/12/2013 6:34:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: timestax
Could it be gubmint boys causing this or just normal failure.

Yes. This. This is exactly what it is. Get out. Get out now!

12 posted on 06/12/2013 6:35:31 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: timestax

Yes, it is 100% the ‘gubment spooks doing it.


13 posted on 06/12/2013 6:35:56 AM PDT by SengirV
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To: timestax

14 posted on 06/12/2013 6:36:39 AM PDT by JRios1968 (I'm guttery and trashy, with a hint of lemon. - Laz)
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To: timestax

It’s a Trojan. Make sure your firewall is up.


15 posted on 06/12/2013 6:36:40 AM PDT by Focault's Pendulum (I live in NJ....' Nuff said!)
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To: JRios1968

ha HA...I like this!


16 posted on 06/12/2013 6:37:17 AM PDT by timestax
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To: timestax

If you click it, it will take over your computer and you wioll play hell getting rid of it. Months ago NORTON Security took two hours to get me free of it.


17 posted on 06/12/2013 6:40:38 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Get a special prosecutor right now!!!)
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To: big bad easter bunny
Definitely back up, then find out what your situation is. You should be able to research the error message to see if it is legit

And back up the malware along with it?!? Not a good idea. Determine if it is malware first. If needed, get some assistance to do so. Take corrective action. Then, make sure you are running an automated back up and /or have restore points set.

18 posted on 06/12/2013 6:44:53 AM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I don't believe that there is any reliable way to tell a hard drive "is in imminent danger of failing" unless it's emitting smoke or screeching like a banshee.

The vast majority of failures don't screech or smoke. They are from bad sectors on the drive, head misalignment, or contaminants like dust or smoke. When the system continually has trouble reading and writing to the drive it can predict that a failure is imminent. Running a checkdisk on the drive will detect bad sectors also.

19 posted on 06/12/2013 6:47:33 AM PDT by BubbaBasher ("Liberty will not long survive the total extinction of morals" - Sam Adams)
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To: rarestia

This is the correct answer.


20 posted on 06/12/2013 6:49:21 AM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel (And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?)
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I had the exact same thing happen here at work to one of the Windows PC’s. It’s a nasty nasty virus. I had to boot up in safe mode and expunge it.


21 posted on 06/12/2013 6:49:26 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: JRios1968

Funny stuff.


22 posted on 06/12/2013 6:49:33 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (23,116,441 households on Food Stamps! Now that's what I call HISTORICAL!!!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
-- I don't believe that there is any reliable way to tell a hard drive "is in imminent danger of failing" --

Hard drives have had S.M.A.R.T. capability (Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology) for some years now, and some of the meansurements the drive takes on itself are very good predictors of impending failure.

S.M.A.R.T. - Wikipedia

23 posted on 06/12/2013 6:53:08 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

“I don’t believe that there is any reliable way to tell a hard drive “is in imminent danger of failing” unless it’s emitting smoke or screeching like a banshee.”

This is not true. Drives today (and even 10 years ago) have/had predictive firmware that measured all sorts of parameters including temperature, variations in speed and spindle current to predict failures. some even went so fare as to analyze patterns of correctable errors to predict failures.


24 posted on 06/12/2013 6:53:41 AM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: RobertClark

If it came from the OS, it’s not likely malware. Win7/8 has disk management utilities built-in that monitor the BIOS SMART system for updates. If the SMART system alerted during the POST (Power On Self Test), Win7/8 is alerting to a fault.

Scanning for malware/spyware is likely to make the problem worse. It doesn’t make sense to scan a failing hard drive. If the fault is with bad sectors or a rotary motor failure, you’ll likely kill the HDD during the scan, ruining the ability to recover the data.

If it’s a pop-up in a web browser, that’s a different story, but the poster says that this is a Win7/8 alert, likely in the system tray. That’s a legitimate system fault.


25 posted on 06/12/2013 6:56:21 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Better yet, go buy a terabyte drive for $70 and use USB 3 or Thunderbolt to connect the computer and drive. You can’t beat the bandwidth of a local connection.

If you are really paranoid, buy two backup drives and rotate one of them off-site, preferably to your safe deposit box.


26 posted on 06/12/2013 6:57:30 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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Run all your antivirus programs and get free antivirus form Downloads.com. I had the same thing and later I got a windows page that wanted me to restore my commuter. It was virus called the Windows Restore Virus. Run antivirus software before trying to restore. My computer is still not right but is running.
27 posted on 06/12/2013 7:09:49 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: fulltlt

Same thing happened to my computer. I am in safe mode. How exactly do I expunge it?


28 posted on 06/12/2013 7:18:55 AM PDT by billys kid ("Bury me on my head for one day this world will be upside down." (Diogenes))
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To: timestax
Take a little time and peruse the following for info:

Self-Monitoring, Analysis and Reporting Technology [SMART]


29 posted on 06/12/2013 7:27:47 AM PDT by deport
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To: timestax
If it doesn't say "click here and we'll fix everything" it is probably legit. If it does offer to fix everything, it is probably a virus/trojan that wants to do even more damage.

If it is a real warning, it is probably because the drive management subsystem has noticed and mapped around ever increasing numbers of bad sectors on your hard drive. A few are expected on every drive. A lot is bad, or if the few starts growing steadily that's bad. That means flaws in the surface have come apart and have introduced debris inside the drive that is slowing grinding up the surface...

Backup early, backup often.

30 posted on 06/12/2013 7:53:40 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: rarestia
Scanning for malware/spyware is likely to make the problem worse. It doesn’t make sense to scan a failing hard drive. If the fault is with bad sectors or a rotary motor failure, you’ll likely kill the HDD during the scan, ruining the ability to recover the data.

Running AV is about the last thing I do when looking for Malware. Establishing a baseline and understanding what is running (and what shouldn't be) is priority. Scanning a failing drive would be foolish, I agree.

31 posted on 06/12/2013 8:14:32 AM PDT by RobertClark (My shrink just killed himself - he blamed me in his note!)
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To: ThunderSleeps

I got the same message 3 years ago and ran Dell diagnostics which confirmed imminent failure. They sent me a replacement hard drive as computer was under warranty. Backed everything up and waited for failure. New hard drive is still in my desk as I write this on old hard drive Dell latitude


32 posted on 06/12/2013 8:15:03 AM PDT by cmwy
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To: billys kid

run MS security essentials. It may take running it more than once.


33 posted on 06/12/2013 8:17:46 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: timestax
Dump Windows and buy Apple.
After 30 years of using, updating, and cursing Windows, it's the best thing I've ever done.
Check the properties of your hard drive and see how much usable space is available.
If it's 90 percent full, you've got a problem.
34 posted on 06/12/2013 8:19:31 AM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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http://www.cybertechhelp.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=25

I have had great success using this help forum. You resister than post your problem. They will walk you through needed steps to find and fix malware problems. Highly recommended.


35 posted on 06/12/2013 8:24:36 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: timestax

fwiw, Dell used to replace hard drives with “refurbished” ones when fulfilling warranty claims. At least they did on mine — roughly twice a year until the warranty expired and I went out and bought a new Seagate which never gave me a moment’s trouble since.


36 posted on 06/12/2013 8:34:53 AM PDT by schm0e ("we are in the midst of a coup.")
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To: timestax

Buy one of those little usb thingies every now and then. Copy everything to it, regularly. Feel better.

Online storage is what I do with other people’s data, on their instructions, and on their heads. My own stuff is squirreled away in usb’s...and of course there are hard copies.

Had one malware scare in all these years. The computer that had it, is still working at age 15. No thanks to Norton.

AdAware is free and does the job. Of course, my online tastes are simple and I don’t surf hotdog.


37 posted on 06/12/2013 8:36:46 AM PDT by HomeAtLast
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Wish I could help you, but I’m an old man who knows jack sh*t about computers.

One very hard lesson I HAVE learned over the years, though, is BACK UP YOUR HARD DRIVE ALL THE TIME!!!

If your computer marches on, fine; if it fails without backups for everything, you’ll be crying in your beer.

Been there, done that, and it stinks.


38 posted on 06/12/2013 8:48:35 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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I have Win8 and today I received my monthly malicious software update. Windows updates that update every day. I really like Windows 8.


39 posted on 06/12/2013 8:52:34 AM PDT by Excellence (9/11 was an act of faith.)
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To: cmwy
I got the same message 3 years ago and ran Dell diagnostics which confirmed imminent failure. They sent me a replacement hard drive as computer was under warranty. Backed everything up and waited for failure. New hard drive is still in my desk as I write this on old hard drive Dell latitude

Sort of like the ole "CHECK ENGINE" light that came on my auto, and I drove 78,000 more miles on it before I got rid of it!

40 posted on 06/12/2013 2:45:40 PM PDT by timestax
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