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Ann Coulter: "If you compare white populations, we have the same murder rate as Belgium"
http://www.theroot.com ^ | January 15, 2013 | Elon White

Posted on 06/25/2013 8:22:15 PM PDT by B4Ranch

To say I'm shocked at Coulter's assertion would just be a lie. This is Ann Coulter. She says ridiculous nonsense on a regular basis. But on top of her magically ridiculous statements, the oh-so-reasonable Sean Hannity -- the host who should rein in commentary on his show that has gone completely off the rails -- simply let her statement stand. Sure, she just said that gun violence is an issue only with communities of color, but whatever.

Since when are people of color Americans? If gun violence affects only them (which it doesn't), then we don't really need to address it!

So, quick question: With these shining staples of the right wing, why should nonwhites feel comfortable with the Republican Party again?

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To: Red in Blue PA

Not quite. See #72.


81 posted on 06/26/2013 6:27:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: B4Ranch

It is a demographic problem.


Cultural...


82 posted on 06/26/2013 6:36:27 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Surprising NYC Council Bill Could Ban Cops From Identifying Suspects Based on Simple Descriptors Such as Race, Gender and Age

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/06/19/surprising-nyc-council-bill-could-ban-cops-from-identifying-suspects-based-on-simple-descriptors-such-as-race-gender-and-age/


83 posted on 06/26/2013 6:42:33 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: B4Ranch
Violence is overwhelmingly a racial problem... So is low birth rate and a host of other societal problems.

Democrats divided the country up racially for everything - EXCEPT inappropriate behavior that might explain some of the other statistics.

Example: young blacks have a high unemployment rate. That comment should be paired with statistics on their higher delinquency rate, school dropout rates, gang membership etc... Lots of factors play into hiring decisions OTHER than color of skin... I'm not sure if Coulter's numbers are exact, but I get her point.

84 posted on 06/26/2013 6:44:43 AM PDT by GOPJ (... liberal anger - - the privileged wheeze of entitled brats ... Greenfield)
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To: Ken H

I read it in Ann’s book, “Guilty: Liberal “Victims” and Their Assault on America.”

She cites the studies and government statistics in there. I don’t have the book handy right now. (Everyone wants to borrow it.)


85 posted on 06/26/2013 7:02:56 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: A_perfect_lady

>The only thing that matters to me is, “Is it true?” If it’s true, then let it be said. If it’s not, of course, it deserves disdain. But truth is the only criterion.<

The author doesn’t dispute Ann’s statement so I’m guessing that she is correct and truthful.


86 posted on 06/26/2013 7:58:47 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: B4Ranch
Since when are people of color Americans?

I don't understand why Elon asked that non-sequitur question but the answer is, officially, July 9th 1868. One could argue that they always were and that laws to the contrary prior to that date were simply an un-Constitutional miscarriage of justice.

87 posted on 06/26/2013 7:59:59 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: wardaddy

I have no problem with them posting on FR. Rarely do they bring facts into the debate and it is interesting to see their point of view.


88 posted on 06/26/2013 8:08:00 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: wardaddy

Somewhere along the line we whites have made a mistake. Originally, gun control was to keep firearms out of the hands of the black slaves so they wouldn’t be used as weapons against slave owners. Or at least that’s how I understand it. Then gun control was furthered into keeping guns away from all blacks unless they had written permission to be carrying the firearm from the owner and it had to be used as a hunting tool.

Remember that college educated legislators were the people who determined the gun laws across America today. A few of them make sense but in my opinion most of them are feel good laws.

These days, if we had color controlled gun control there would certainly be a lot less murders. Or maybe we should adjust the law where if you are receiving money from the government which shows that you are not capable of supporting yourself, then you should also not be permitted to posses a firearm. I don’t know. I’ve only got a high school degree.


89 posted on 06/26/2013 8:20:50 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: RedHeeler; wardaddy; Ackackadack; womanvet; Travis McGee
'Diarrhea of the mouth' is a term we use in these parts to describe a condition when people (mostly teens) can't control the nasty stuff that comes out of their mouth meant to degrade themselves or others.

And no..I don't like it when I hear "nasty" from Black rappers either. Fix it or clean it up, but excuses won't get rid of the stink. Two wrongs do not make a right.

As to the outrage about Blacks getting a pass in the media...well it's wrong, offensive and divisive to always reflexively take one side, and the media always do just that. Everyone knows which side they fall on, especially the lawyers and wind surfing pols.

Trust me, I get it. I've had more than a few race cards pulled on me by people who do it on reflex. I actually had to quit a job that I loved, working with 99% Black coworkers, over what I call "one nasty, black, racist, political hack".

The only way to fix the mess is to get the laws changed to reflect the current century so there is real equality in the legal system. Right now corporations and legislative bodies are fearful of the race card to the point of reverse discrimination against whites.

Yes I get it....but I don't like nasty diarrhea from anyone. Purple with polka-dot skin, it does not matter, as long as you are human, you give up a part of your own humanity when you dehumanize others.

The media is still in the 60's and I think they try to divide people to help keep their overlords in power. There is no fair debate on race..and I think a years old case of 'speaking before thinking' is ridiculous to prosecute. The food network is making a big mistake...JMHO

90 posted on 06/26/2013 8:24:32 AM PDT by Earthdweller (Harvard won the election again...so what's the problem.......? Embrace a ruler today.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Political correctness forbids us from having a frank discussion about the issues involved here.

Just go to any city website and look at their most wanted mugshots for brutal violent crimes...LA, Dallas, Chicago, NY whatever...

The images could not be any clearer.

91 posted on 06/26/2013 8:27:40 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Travis McGee

I saw numbers on 2012 which were in my post. From BOR FWIW.


92 posted on 06/26/2013 9:35:01 AM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: wardaddy
"They have replaced Jim crow with a minorities in general version directed at whites"

Exactly right.

Recently I was told on a Deen-related thread that "nigger" is worse than other racial terms and shouldn't be allowed because it caused lynchings, and brought up the issue of "abject terror" suffered by blacks at the hand of the white mob.

The only mobs I see these days are black ones, frequently targeting and beating whites. Think those folks experience any abject terror?

93 posted on 06/26/2013 9:59:17 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: dragnet2
Monday night, the Chicago Blackhawks won the Stanley Cup. The streets around Wrigley Field, a huge party area, were PACKED. Everybody was having a great time. No burning cars, no vandalism, no rioting. The news casters were saying that CHICAGO was a better town than others who do this.

But I just realized something. Hockey is very limited on Amish who play or attend the games. So it was natural that the crowds Monday would have the same demographic.

I thought I remembered some problems back when the Bulls won. So I looked it up. Sure enough.

CHICAGO — For the third consecutive year, violence marred celebrations that broke out when the Chicago Bulls won the NBA championship. Two people were killed and nearly 700 arrested as the city sent thousands of extra police into the streets.

www.latimes.com 2 Die in Chicago Riots After Bulls' Victory : Civil unrest: Hundreds are arrested after third consecutive NBA title prompts celebration, violence, looting.

94 posted on 06/26/2013 4:01:24 PM PDT by mountn man (The Pleasure You Get From Life Is Equal To The Attitude You Put Into It)
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To: B4Ranch
Ann's got a point here. Going down the list from 2011.

From MSP (Michigan State Police) - Michigan Crime Statistics 2011.

Murder and Non Negligent Manslaughter - 580 (Statewide - 10 million people)

Detroit, Flint, Inkster, Saginaw, and Pontiac alone are over 400 of those.

95 posted on 06/26/2013 5:04:12 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Darren McCarty
Forgot to link
96 posted on 06/26/2013 5:04:48 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: Travis McGee

This is the link to your NYC map.

http://projects.nytimes.com/crime/homicides/map


97 posted on 06/26/2013 6:51:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: Ken H

“I’m skeptical of that. Do the English figures account for race? Blacks commit a disproportionate share of violent crimes there as well: “

Unfortunately, I don’t recall that detail. I read some in-depth studies in the early 90s, and have skimmed others since which all say pretty much the same thing. The wording I recall was “of English ancestry”...which suggests they were controlling for race, but I’d have to find it 20 years later to dig into the control population characteristics.


98 posted on 07/01/2013 6:14:32 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: B4Ranch

So we know that black crime, violent crime in particular is hugely disproportionate compared to whites but the question is what to do about it.


99 posted on 07/01/2013 6:19:58 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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