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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 26 JUNE 28, 2013
Free Republic | June 28, 2013 | greeneyes

Posted on 06/28/2013 1:01:56 PM PDT by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you.

This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked.

It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread ... there is no telling where it will go and that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


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We have had a very sunny day with temps at around 85 degrees. It has now clouded up and started to sprinkle. We are due for a little cooling over the next few days.

Hubby harvested the winter wheat yesterday. It is sitting on the back patio to cure. He just threw some plastic over it. My advice was to clear a space for it in the garage or hang it from the ceiling out there, but he swears, he has figured out how to do it better this year.LOL.

I planted some ancient corn this week, and they are just beginning to push through the ground. The Country Gentleman is around 4 feet tall, and should begin to tassel soon, I think.

Potatoes are in full blown bloom, lettuce is still available (cooler temps mean it doesn't bolt so quick). Peanuts are looking good. Have some peppers ready to transplant.

Hubby has been harvesting cukes. We are enjoying lot of refrigerator pickles, and hope to get a bunch soon for making dill pickles. He reports that the tomatoes on the back forty are doing great. We had a serving of fresh dew berries for breakfast this week.

Leaf Amaranth is doing well, grain Amaranth very slow and not much germinated. Lavendar is still blooming.

Alls well on our little acre, hope you are all doing well too. Have a great weekend. God Bless.

1 posted on 06/28/2013 1:01:56 PM PDT by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the list. I can’t remember who pinged me, but I thought I would mention that their was an article posted last week regarding the dangers of composting, and I thank whoever it was that pinged me.

Someone located their compost pile too close to a wooden deck, and the pile got really hot and caught the deck on fire-so there’s a warning.


2 posted on 06/28/2013 1:09:20 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

their = there


3 posted on 06/28/2013 1:09:56 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Word to the wise - compost with worms or bunnies.


4 posted on 06/28/2013 1:11:13 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: greeneyes

(from the other thread)

We picked over a gallon of raspberries (giant ones, biggest we’ve ever gotten), over a gallon of blackberries (giant apache ones) and 2 gallons of ginormous blueberries. There are probably 10 or 15 gallons of blueberries, a couple gallons of raspberries and a couple more gallons of blackberries left on the bush/vine. If we get rain today they’ll be huge too.

Still picking strawberries. We’ve never picked them this late before. I have everbearing varieties that usually sull when temps get and stay above 90. So far this year the past 3 days are the longest it’s done that.

My rice that I’m using the SRI method with (modified with mulch) is getting just rampant. Some of the ones I transplanted last (and had learned how not to damage the little root system as much) already have 15 tillers. Next year I’ll know a little better what I’m doing with that. I also didn’t get them out at 10 or 12days post planting like I was supposed to. These were 3.5w seedlings.

Winter squash are running like crazy and some already have females on them. Tomatoes are liking the non-swelter we’ve had and the peppers are too. Sweet potatoes are running finally.

I had a big square of corn planted. Went out the next day and saw scratching around in the soil. Chipmunks. Ask me how many corn plants I got out of that :P So now it’s war with Alvin and friends at my house.

Fall tomatoes are getting their 2nd set of real tomato leaves and I have a whole flat of basil to transplant.

It’s all good so far. Well, except the chipmunks. Furry cute little thieves. I need to find some rat snakes and put them out.


5 posted on 06/28/2013 1:11:56 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: greeneyes

“Someone located their compost pile too close to a wooden deck, and the pile got really hot and caught the deck on fire-so there’s a warning.”

That was a pile, not a separate composter contained unit, right?


6 posted on 06/28/2013 1:13:16 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: greeneyes
It's 103F here, so I'm inside. Other than early in the AM, as long as the heat continues, the garden is on it's own. I'm hoping we don't have a repeat of 2011, where my yard looked like it had been nuked.

Everything seemed fine in the garden when I checked it out before sunrise, so I'm happy. Cantaloupes should be ready by next week. I'm impatient for the tomatoes to ripen. Maybe next week.

I harvested LOTS of the NM chili peppers and am roasting and pureeing them prior to freezing them in portion control lots. They are real producers.

/johnny

7 posted on 06/28/2013 1:14:53 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

I’m behind on everything again this year. None of my seedlings are in the ground yet. I hope everyone else is doing well.


8 posted on 06/28/2013 1:15:40 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes

Question from a not-very-knowledgeable gardener - For the past several years we have had great luck growing spinach from seeds. This year, the plants are straggly, small, with some yellow leaves. I think overall, temp. and watering/rainfall is comparable to past summers. Do you know what could be causing this?


9 posted on 06/28/2013 1:16:05 PM PDT by a.c.t.32
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To: Marcella
Correct, it was a pile. And they were composting some high nitrogen stuff obviously. Your twirly composter with leaves and kitchen scraps shouldn't ever get hot. Unless you put chicken or horse poop in it.

/johnny

10 posted on 06/28/2013 1:17:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Maybe somebody could help Ben Stein with his jacarandas? His never seem to bloom.

https://www.facebook.com/sharer/sharer.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fspectator.org%2Farchives%2F2013%2F06%2F28%2Fstrange-days&t=Strange+Days


11 posted on 06/28/2013 1:17:56 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Marcella; All

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3035314/posts

Here’s the link to read more about it. IIRC it was a pile, but I don’t trust my memory.


12 posted on 06/28/2013 1:21:21 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Black Agnes

My raspberries are just coming in. I have had beautiful lettuce, radishes, cabbage due to the cooler weather and lot of rain. I was late getting everything else in, but the tomatoes and cukes are looking good and I cut my first zucchini today. So far I am pleased with it all, and with the dampness I have been able to pull weeds easily!


13 posted on 06/28/2013 1:25:48 PM PDT by gramho12
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To: Black Agnes

I really miss the strawberries this year. Hubby pulled out the old beds last year, and is picking off all the blooms on the new beds this year to put more strength in the plant.


14 posted on 06/28/2013 1:26:13 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
I bought some purple beauty pepper seeds and the plants are really producing now in our garden. Anyone ever grow these ?
Are they hot ?
They resemble jalapenos but are royal purple...
15 posted on 06/28/2013 1:28:02 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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To: JRandomFreeper

I am enjoying our more moderate temps so far this year. Our basement apartment has been a nice 75 degrees in the walk - out side and about 70 degrees in the storage area and excercise room.

I hope you don’t have a repeat of 2011 too.


16 posted on 06/28/2013 1:28:42 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham

While I did some stuff out rather timely, I still have one bed left to plant, and haven’t decided what to fill it up with yet.

It’s kinda close to the walnut tree, so it’s not suitable for peppers or tomatoes, which would be my first choice.LOL


17 posted on 06/28/2013 1:31:06 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Good – another failure. :o)

Failures are good because I know that doesn’t work so another failure down. Have to get all the failures done before the SHTF. The bean plants growing on the lattice on back wall are being cooked by the heat and sun and they are dying. There are five or six of them planted to see what would happen. The lattice is white and the sun beats on that lattice from before noon until the last ray goes down in the evening. The temperature of that white lattice with the vine wrapped around it has to be extremely high, cooking the vine, plus with the rays of the sun, the leaves are dying too, being cooked. My temp today, Thursday, will reach 100. Tomorrow, Friday, the forecast is 104, as is Saturday. You just can’t imagine how hot it is out there. I can’t use that lattice for vining veggies – better to know it now than later. The large containers with attached lattice will have to be used for vining veggies. I’ll use that ground in front of the hot lattice for planting Jerusalem Artichokes Sunflowers, the Fuseau strain, for the tubers that make large potato type tubers for eating. Those Sunflower tubers can’t be bought now but can be bought before delivery time in March.

I have planted Mortgage Lifter Red tomato seed using Johnny’s method for growing plants from seed. I did use Espoma Organic Seed Starter mix in the cups that is supposed to help them germinate. I also used the plastic seed planter thingy to put seeds in the cups and was able to place each seed with that instead of glopping seed everywhere trying to do it by hand and losing seed. I’ve also planted 12 Sunspot Sunflower seeds in cups and if those grow, will put them next to a side brick wall. They only grow to two and a half feet and have 10 inch flowers with a center full of striped seed to eat. If they don’t make it in the heat after planting, will plant more in the early spring.

I need fruit to grow out there. I read up on growing blackberries in containers and that can be done so I’ll use the large containers with trellis included. I’ll order Arapaho 2 yr. plants that ripen the beginning of June and 2 yr. old Ouachita plants that begin to ripen mid-June. These come from Arkansas near the Un. of Arkansas that develops strains of blackberry plants. I read information from a Texas grower of blackberries, and he said the Ouachita are great growing in Texas.

I feel like I’m in a holding pattern with not much more I can do until maybe the middle of July when I can start some seed for fall planting. Wish I could do more but starting as late as I did and having to learn and fail leaves me where I am today. :o(

I see all your great gardens and would like to walk through all of them and ask questions and sit down and have a cup of coffee with each one of you. I take cream in my coffee, please.


18 posted on 06/28/2013 1:32:40 PM PDT by Marcella (Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.)
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To: a.c.t.32

Spinach likes nitrogen rich soil. The best spinach I grew this year was planted in mushroom compost. You might want to test the soil, add some mushroom compost, or plant some in a bag of mushroom compost.


19 posted on 06/28/2013 1:34:29 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Nope, I have never had any experience with these. Just cut off a slice and try it?? Make sure you have plenty of ice cream and water near. LOL


20 posted on 06/28/2013 1:36:36 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The only plants growing well in our garden are tomatoes and pumpkins. Beans are surprisingly not even leafing out. Peas were a bust. Onions — heck I don’ even know where they went.

We never have problems growing beans.


21 posted on 06/28/2013 1:44:59 PM PDT by madison10
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To: greeneyes

We did manage to get some roses that I ordered into containers, but unless we get them into the ground they won’t survive. It’s still early, so I’m not giving up hope. :)


22 posted on 06/28/2013 1:47:16 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Marcella

Come on over, I would love to take you on a tour. I’ll be taking pictures during the rest of the summer, untill I get a roll of film used up. Then I’ll figure out how to post some of those.

Now about that hot spot where the lattice is. You could try using some shade cloth or even a sheet over that area. I used a sheet over my tomatoes last year, and it helped a lot.

I attached it to the fence, and used some pvc pipe I had on hand to anchor the corners. (Think roof of lean to shed). Three sides were open so air could pass through, but when the sun was directly overhead, the white sheet helped.


23 posted on 06/28/2013 1:47:34 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: madison10

Have you been planting the beans in the same spot or do you rotate?


24 posted on 06/28/2013 1:48:56 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: trisham

I just keep remembering that last year was a big bust, but we did finally get some good crops in the fall, especially tomatoes. So hanging in there is the way to go.


25 posted on 06/28/2013 1:50:25 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Finished digging the garlic and onions this week. Tomatoes are about done for the season. I started several more tomato plants this week.

I also saved onion and garlic seed tops. My dad had great luck getting them to sprout every year. It’s 102 here now, so I am inside until later.


26 posted on 06/28/2013 1:50:41 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: madison10
Been a bad spring here too; all the fruit trees started blooming in early April because we had beautiful weather, all the vegetables started coming up and the corn got to be about 4” tall. Then we had about 18 days of 15 to 20 degree weather, killed everything off right down to bare mineral soil. At the beginning of May, weather immediatly went to 104 up to 109 and not a drop of rain. Started the irrigation system up and tried to replant all the vegetables and corn; some of the stuff started to sprout and at the end of May, BANG!! right back to 20 degree nights and 28 degree days. Now it is the end of June, but I will try again for some of the summer crops before I start on the Fall cycle.
27 posted on 06/28/2013 2:01:06 PM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: greeneyes
I saw this on the Web this week. I thought some of you might be interested. I haven't tried it; just passing it on. I think that this would work best with roses grown on their own root stock, if it works at all.

Did you know that you can grow roses from cuttings?

Simply cut healthy stems, place them in large potatoes, and them bury them 3-4 inches deep in a healthy soil mixture of peet moss and top soil. The potatoes keep the stems moist and help develop the root systems. It's a perfectly simple way to multiply your rose garden without spending lots of $$$.

28 posted on 06/28/2013 2:06:29 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: greeneyes

I’ve been so busy with work and stuff that I barely had time to look at my garden this week. I intend to rectify that over the weekend. The garlic is ready for harvest and I probably ought to dig a few potatoes.

There might be a weed or two out there that needs pulled too...


29 posted on 06/28/2013 2:08:33 PM PDT by Augie
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To: greeneyes
FWIW......I've ordered plants from these two places...and have been happy.

After the last two summers...I've tended to lean towards Xeriscaping lately.

http://www.highcountrygardens.com/?utm_source=ezine&utm_medium=email&utm_source=bronto-batch-1&utm_campaign=2013-04-25-drought-shrubs

http://www.greenwoodnursery.com/page.cfm/22278

Cheers!!

30 posted on 06/28/2013 2:13:36 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Sic semper evello mortem Tyrannis)
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To: greeneyes

I posted late (yesterday) on last weeks Thread that my Wife and I have safely made our move from Texas to our house in Mississippi. Unloaded our 26 ft. rental truck and are now in the process of unpacking all our boxes and trying to get settled in. This will take us some time to accomplish.

Our new pups are enjoying the yard but run like scared cats for the door when the two German Shepherds next door bark at them.


31 posted on 06/28/2013 2:14:24 PM PDT by Red_Devil 232 (VietVet - USMC All Ready On The Right? All Ready On The Left? All Ready On The Firing Line!)
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Yay, you’re back! The next part of the move is always the hardest. We moved 6 years ago and still have a few unopened/unpacked boxes.


32 posted on 06/28/2013 2:15:29 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Arrowhead1952

Yeh, I got all my garlic up this week too. Still waiting on the first tomato. Stay cool- I would surely be indoors too any time it gets to be above 85, I stay in till it gets cooler.


33 posted on 06/28/2013 2:31:47 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: 5th MEB

I hope the third time is a charm for you. You have sure had some bad luck.


34 posted on 06/28/2013 2:34:08 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Thanks for that tip. I’ll have to try it.


35 posted on 06/28/2013 2:36:03 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Red_Devil 232

There’s no place like home! Congrats.


36 posted on 06/28/2013 2:39:49 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Just a quickie tonight. We picked these on Tuesday, and we have doubled the amount since then. Black Krim, Golden Girl, Grenn Zebra, cherry, and Roma tomatoes.

Cukes are going crazy! Oh yeah - 105°F In the Texas Hill Country. Durn! That's Baghdad HOT!

37 posted on 06/28/2013 2:43:06 PM PDT by Sarajevo (Don't think for a minute that this excuse for a President has America's best interest in mind.)
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To: greeneyes

That’s reassuring. :)


38 posted on 06/28/2013 2:46:22 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: greeneyes

When the House doesn’t pass amnesty Rubio switches party.


39 posted on 06/28/2013 2:46:33 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Fight the culture of nothing.)
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To: Sarajevo

Thanks for the pics. Wish we had some maters.LOL. Stay out of the heat if possible.LOL


40 posted on 06/28/2013 2:48:19 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

That’s amazing!


41 posted on 06/28/2013 2:48:23 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Mike Darancette

Are you on the right thread? We’re talking about gardens and produce, so you might want to double check, in case you intended to post to someone else.


42 posted on 06/28/2013 2:51:26 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

My neighbor pulled up some garlic and asked me what the little brown “nodes” were that are attached to the sides. I told him my dad used to plant them and grow a new crop of garlic the next year. Is that correct?


43 posted on 06/28/2013 2:54:32 PM PDT by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: greeneyes

I rotate. This is a new spot this year. Maybe they needed more nutrition of some sort. Most came up, but did not last. There are about four bean plants, good ones, out of two rows.


44 posted on 06/28/2013 2:58:36 PM PDT by madison10
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To: 5th MEB

OH MAN,That sucks! Where do you live?


45 posted on 06/28/2013 3:02:13 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

Bump


46 posted on 06/28/2013 3:05:02 PM PDT by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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To: afraidfortherepublic

One of those stems is upside down. Don’t know that one will work. Why waste a perfectly good potato? Just lay a few leggy stems over onto the ground, anchor them with dirt or a rock and they’ll start new roots. Eat the potatoes for dinner.


47 posted on 06/28/2013 3:08:52 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Arrowhead1952

Sounds reasonable, but I have no first hand experience with those.


48 posted on 06/28/2013 3:10:48 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: madison10

What did you plant there last year? Did you add any compost or fertilizer this year? I always check the plant for bugs or signs of disease first, then check the soil.

Beans are usually a pretty easy veggie to grow.


49 posted on 06/28/2013 3:14:21 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

The evening news just announced it is 106 right now and might rise another degree or two before the sun starts to go down. The dogs came in and you could feel the heat coming off them. All they do lately is snooze under the A/C. Who can blame them.

I’ve been watering morning and evening just to keep things alive. The squash finally went caput without giving me anything. There is one little cuke I’ve got my eye on and may have to be happy with that for the summer. Despite all the watering, the corn is drying out and it only gave me one little bitty ear that never matured. I have two varieties of corn and neither have grown over 3-4 feet.

There is one little banana pepper and none of the peppers are growing much. But then I had to replant 3 times so they were very late getting into the ground. The tomatoes I had to restart aren’t much bigger than what they were when I put them out a month or so ago but they’re happy so maybe they don’t like the heat. If it weren’t for all the yellow pear volunteers, I’d have nothing. They have maters but aren’t getting any color. I need to see if the carrots are ready.


50 posted on 06/28/2013 3:25:16 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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