1925. "Girls' rifle team, University of Maryland." National Photo. Posted on 06/30/2013 4:03:25 PM PDT by DogByte6RER
1925. "Girls' rifle team, University of Maryland." National Photo.
Washington, D.C., circa 1925. "Girls' rifle team of Drexel Institute." National Photo Company Collection glass negative.
(NOTE: Photos above are beleived to have been taken at George Washington University's Corcoran Hall rifle range in March 1925, the location of the competition)
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Clever, changing the subject. And yes, the Soviets, as you say “They invaded somebody else’s land and murdered millions in cold blood”. So how many Polish, Czech or Hungarian partisans fighting for independence of their countries did your Soviet heroine kill? 100 million murdered by the Communists, and you talk about acts of heroism by these Communists!
I hear you man. Babe looks like she killed and skinned the big cat herself to get it. Rough looking bunch of dames.Even without the hardware two or three beers in ‘em and these gals look like they could take on an army.
Just in the interest of keeping the historical record straight Madame, ‘’Uncle Joe’’(Stalin) was quite content to stroll down the garden path with Old Adolph, invading eastern Poland on 9/17/39, snapping up the Baltic states and invading Finland. That is of course until Hitler, being the gangster he was, decided he didn’t need a partner in crime anymore. Nazis and Communists. Two scorpions in a bottle.
But as long as that horse seems to need a few more lashes let me try to be clear. I've got no sympathy for what the Soviets did to their own people much less the captive peoples. I have traveled in all the countries you mentioned and well understand what people there, from hard experience, think of the Russians. But I happen to have even less care for what happened to the Wehrmacht on Russian soil. Suffice to say the Germans won't try that again.
The Nazis weren’t some thing that fell out of the clouds one day into Germany and so was the case with the Communists in Russia. The Nazis were Germans and the Soviets were Russians.
Laz would have.
True, except that the Red Army was more likely to include members of nationalities other than Russian, and was more likely than the German Army, to my knowledge, to have members of the ruling party. That said, ‘Nazi’ is the term that the Soviet propaganda used after WWII to distinguish the Good Germans in DDR from the Bad Germans in West Germany. The mystification has unfortunately succeeded in the West, as shown on this forum, as did the lies about the Soviet War heroes and heroines.
PS: That’ll be “Mister” to you. Or “Monsieur” if you want to push it.
I see the use of the term Nazi as a way of Germans distancing themselves from the sins Germans of that generation committed. I don’t mean to imply that Germans today bear any guilt of the generation of that time but to try and make it appear as if some other worldly entity committed the evils is intellectually dishonest and historically inaccurate. As I’ve stated, it’s almost as if historians and Germans today speak of the Nazis as if they just fell to Earth one day. It’s become the meme over the last few decades for Germany today to see itself as a victim in the Nazi time and personally I find that repulsive. Yes, Germans of faith and conscience attempted to resist and they went to their death in the gas chambers along with the millions of other victims of the Nazis. But to cast the millions of Germans, who for whatever reason they went along with Hitler as some kind of victims is to dishonor the real victims of the Nazis and sullies the courage and the sacrifice of millions who fought to put an end to Nazism. Every time I see those documentaries of Germans marching and stomping around as if the owned the Earth I say to myself “Victims’’? Ha! I’ll say one thing though, them Krauts sure could march. And they sure knew how to turn out a snappy looking uniform.
Thank you. Understood.
Don’t worry. I’ve been chuckling through this whole long exchange. I try only to argue with people I like and/or respect. It’s kept me out of prison so far.
I have had many German friends, as well as Poles(my favorite eastern European people) and some Russians and what I learned is :Germans hate Poles and Russians. Poles and Russians hate Germans. Russians hate Germans and are sh!t-scared of them. It’s no joke that East Germany was always the one place the USSR kept the largest contingent of occupation forces. When it came time to leave Eastern Europe the Russians left E.Germany last. And the last military train out of the old GDR was one mostly of flat cars carrying T-72 tanks with the turrets swung to the rear. That old habit Russians have of always looking over their shoulder. Continuing, Russians hate Poles and Poles hate Russians with a fury most Americans would find astonishing. One word to in Polish sums it up: “Katyn’’. I love Polish food, I’ll tell you that.
Well, yes, and I don’t think that we should however unconsciously or ignorantly assist the Germans in wiping out their glorious past by using the term ‘Nazi’ with everything related to WWII, except when referring to “Polish death camps” as the New York Times and President Obama like to do. This is what motivated by initial response. What, the Soviet Red Army heroine sniper asked her targets to show their NSDAP membership cards before she shot them?
Yes, I’ve noticed, and so have the Eastern Europeans, that Germans are attempting today to recast themselves as victims of those “Nazis”, when their grandparents eagerly participated in the Third Reich, not always in the SS or Gestapo of course , but patriotically supporting the warring state.
The ladies in the second photo look....ruff!
There is no nation on earth with a worse set of neighbors than the Poles. I like them too. They seem to possess the best qualities of the Slavs with few of the faults. Historically a very cultured people. Have to say, though, I’m not that fond of their food. Too bland for my taste. A Polish friend of mine once gave me a big cookbook of Polish specialties. I accepted with genuine gratitude and feigned enthusiasm.
Man Refuses To Perform Nazi Salute, 1936 - “August Landmesser (1910 – presumably killed February 1944) was a worker at the Blohm + Voss shipyard in Hamburg, Germany. He appeared in a photograph refusing to perform the Nazi salute at the launch of the naval training vessel Horst Wessel on 13 June 1936. “He had been a Nazi Party member from 1931 to 1935, but after fathering children with a Jewish woman, he had been found guilty of “dishonoring the race” under Nazi racial laws and had come to oppose Hitler’s regime. In February 1944 he was drafted into a penal unit, the 999th Fort Infantry Battalion, where he was declared missing in action and presumably killed.”
He could have done, so much more.
bttt for tommorow
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