Two bikini-clad women sue after they were subjected to body cavity search on the side of Texas hway

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[traumer]

Brandy Hamilton, 26, and Alexandria Randle, 24, say their civil rights were violated by the invasive search Texas Department of Public Safety trooper ordered the body cavity search because he smelled marijuana and allegedly found the end of a blunt The women say that the female trooper used the same glove to search inside both of them =============

Disturbing video shows two women in bikinis being subjected to body cavity searches on the side of a Texas highway after they were stopped returning from a weekend at the beach.

Brandy Hamilton, 26, and Alexandria Randle, 24, are suing the Texas Department of Public Safety and the sheriff of Brazoria County, Texas, where the stop occurred. Their lawyer alleges that the search was meant to humiliate them and was conducted without probable cause.

The female officer who performed the invasive search, which included sticking a finger in the women's vaginas, is accused of using the same pair of gloves to search both women. The entire 40-minute traffic stop was caught on the trooper's dashboard camera.

Attorney Allie R. Booker told MailOnline her client's case is startling similar to a July 2012 case in Dallas in which DPS trooper Kelly Helleson aggressively searched, Angel Dobbs and her niece, Ashley Dobbs - including giving them a body cavity search and not changing gloves between searching the two women.

[Ken H]

Look what happened to the last two Texas troopers who administered a bit of 'soft justice', as you put it. They just might end up doing time in prison:

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Two Texas state troopers indicted for roles in roadside body cavity search of two women

March 24, 2013

Trooper Kelley Helleson, who was later fired after the Texas Department of Public Safety investigated, was charged with two counts of sexual assault and two counts of official oppression. Trooper David Farrell was charged with theft after the women said their prescription went missing following last summer’s incident.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/2-texas-state-troopers-indicted-roadside-cavity-search-article-1.1297749

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I'd say the chances of the troopers involved in this latest incident being indicted are pretty high. What do you think?

[Tammy8]

Yes, hubby once came unglued at a veterinarian that used the same glove to examine more than one horse’s mouth. Transference of germs and other interesting things.

I think if the officers thought they needed to do a body cavity search they should have detained the women and taken them to a facility to do that.

[fr_freak]

Don't you get that what you'll tolerate from the government when they do it to others, they will eventually do to you? You cackle with glee that these women got body cavity searched, because you're convinced they're bad people, but once that precedent is set, it could be YOU who gets fingers in her vagina/his anus, all on suspicion of misbehavior. By then, the precedent will be accepted practice. Then you'll whine, but you'll inevitably forget that you supported the same heinous violations against other people.

We are a nation of principles and law. You throw those out in unsavory situations, and you'll find that they are not there in righteous situations, either.

[Fire_on_High]

Most likely.

Still, do you deny that FREQUENTLY ppl who are guilty as sin walk without a lick of punishment?

[Fire_on_High]

Decent folks tend not to end up in those sorts of situations...side benefit of that whole decency thing and all, along with never having to face the shame of arrest or worry how to make bail or any of half a dozen other things.

That said, if I land myself in a situation I’ll take my licks with good graces, not whine, because no one I associate with would have a lick of sympathy. That’s what personal responsibility is...you accept that what happens to you is a direct result of what you do and don’t try to cry to others about the choices you made or what they bring to you.

Do you regularly associate with the sort of folks who have to worry about this? I’d be shunned instantly if I ever embarrassed my friends and family by bringing them into disrepute with an arrest, particularly if I decided to publicly whine about it.

[Smokin' Joe]

You still have to prove it is theirs, beyond a reasonable doubt. Suspects.

[Ken H]

Still, do you deny that FREQUENTLY ppl who are guilty as sin walk without a lick of punishment?

It happens millions of times a year. A minor who takes a drink or smokes pot, or every adult who drives above .08, are a few examples.

Why would anyone deny such a thing?

[Dutchboy88]

"You still have to prove it is theirs, beyond a reasonable doubt. Suspects."

To search for more? I don't believe you understand the rules, my FRiend. Probable cause. And, all that squealing? Just for show.

[fr_freak]

Either you are being deliberately obtuse, or you truly don’t have the slightest clue what the issue being discussed is. It’s almost like you haven’t read a thing on this thread. Either way, voters like you are why we are heading toward totalitarianism.

[Smokin' Joe]

It still isn't justified to do a body cavity search on the roadside, I don't care what they were looking for.

Furthermore, it doesn't justify using the same glove on both women while doing the search, no matter where that was done, because of the chance for spreading STDs and other blood borne disease..

Pretty/ugly, rich/poor, doper/churchgoer--it doesn't matter--Rights are Rights, and theirs have been violated.

[Dutchboy88]

"Pretty/ugly, rich/poor, doper/churchgoer--it doesn't matter--Rights are Rights, and theirs have been violated."

Which "right" would that be?

[Smokin' Joe]

The Right against having your internal organs probed on the side of the road. Maybe you would enjoy that, but most folks would find that to be an invasive search, and while some would contend the search is justified ("probable cause"), The location where the search was conducted is not. (Just because something is in the ash tray or on the floor, that doesn't mean people are going to put the same stuff in their body cavities.)

That, as I said is just the first part.

The second is a medical issue, that of possibly transferring STDs or bloodborne pathogens by using the same glove on both women.

Sorry pal, but neither is acceptable.

Now if you support that sort of thing, I can suggest a number of countries where you might feel more at home.

[Dutchboy88]

Notice, even you allow,”while some contend the search is justified (”probable cause”). I accept your apology.

And, there are lots of countries where your anarchist, antinomian views are welcome...but not here in the country based on law.

[Smokin' Joe]

I was not objecting to the search so much as where it was conducted and the methodology. There are times and places for everything, and the roach was probable cause to search for drugs. So bust 'em, book 'em and do the probe.

Without arrest, without warrant, on the side of the road, with the same glove? No. Especially the location and the same glove. That glove could transfer everything from crab lice to Hepatitis and Aids from one suspect to the other.

Nothing justifies that.

[Darnright]

>Either you are being deliberately obtuse, or you truly don’t have the slightest clue what the issue being discussed is. It’s almost like you haven’t read a thing on this thread. Either way, voters like you are why we are heading toward totalitarianism.<

Ms Fire, what you fail to understand is, if the state is not brought up on a very short leash when this type of misbehavior occurs, we could eventually see rogue cops brutalizing people who have committed no crime, but who may simply be guilty of membership in a given group, or in a class of individuals.

Let’s say you are driving down the road at night and one of your taillights goes out. Whoops, you are surely guilty of a traffic infraction, albeit a small one. Would you accept some female in a cop uniform ramming a gloved finger up your companion’s hindparts, then turning to do you, next?

The Founding Fathers would never, ever have condoned such behavior in an officer of the law. This is why they wrote the Bill of Rights as they did. No, nobody here wants to see guilty folks set free with no punishment. That said, we have the rule of law in this country for good reason.

[Fire_on_High]

Long story short, if it was really out, not bashed in? Yes, because anything less is dishonesty. Taking responsibility for your own actions means accepting the consequences as well, fair or unfair.

But fine, I’ll concede your point. Still won’t change how I’ll handle my own affairs, tho.

[Gene Eric]

>> anarchist, antinomian views

Pointless hostility.

[Darnright]

>Still won’t change how I’ll handle my own affairs, tho.<

I would never expect that. Decency, self-respect and respect for the law is becoming more and more rare, as our culture continues to erode.

[Dutchboy88]

"Pointless hostility."

Pointless posting.

[Albion Wilde]

they did not execute the women, they just asked a woman officer to check them for more drugs. Your post sounds much like the liberal left which defends the illegal aliens here in AZ as just "nice people who ran from dangerous Mexico."

Your position -- that if women are suspected (not convicted) of in this case a non-violent crime of personal drug abuse, they DESERVE a body cavity search AT THE SIDE OF THE ROAD IN VIEW OF PASSERSBY -- is absolutely contrary to the spirit of America that we have lost due to jackbootery at every level. Graduation from police academy does not confer the authority to act as a judge and jury.

This is the end of my posts to you, in view that you cannot stop making it personal when you reply.