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Two bikini-clad women sue after they were subjected to body cavity search on the side of Texas hway
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Posted on 07/03/2013 2:29:09 PM PDT by traumer
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To: DrewsMum
Sadly, I guess times have changed since I was there.. :/
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posted on
07/03/2013 6:36:38 PM PDT
by
Bikkuri
(Molon Labe)
To: Dutchboy88
Even drug abusing women should never be subjected to a body cavity search on the side of the road. Just NEVER. In view that they were non-violent, and police found only the stub of a reefer and not even a baggie, there was little to no justification for a body cavity search even if they were taken to the police station. And lastly, there is NEVER, NEVER, NEVER any justification WHATSOEVER for using the same glove on both women. Just no. I don't care if they were murderers.
This country was founded on the principle of rule of law, and that a suspect is innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. The police are not judges nor executioners. They are, and should remain, at least 50%, if not 90%, community relations professionals who are armed for the general welfare when dealing with hard criminals. Sadly, with the decline of family in this country, they are often cast in the role of Rent-A-Dad. But just like your own Dad, self-discipline is best learned by example. Anger, spiteful punishment without due process, retaliation and vengeance are too costly to the taxpayer and the general welfare.
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posted on
07/03/2013 7:47:11 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
("Remember... the first revolutionary was Satan."--Russian Orthodox Archpriest Dmitry Smirnov)
To: fr_freak
If you smoke dope and go out in public dressed like a whore, maybe you SHOULD be “intimidated” and “oppressed”. If this were the standard treatment, it might actually discourage some of the rampant crime!
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posted on
07/03/2013 11:55:10 PM PDT
by
Fire_on_High
(RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
To: Fire_on_High
If you smoke dope and go out in public dressed like a whore, maybe you SHOULD be intimidated and oppressed. If this were the standard treatment, it might actually discourage some of the rampant crime!
Good God, I don't even know where to begin with you. You are a left-wing caricature of a conservative. You honestly would sanction a police state just so you can giggle when people who are ACCUSED of smoking dope get fingers jammed up their vaginas on the side of the highway? You do not belong on a pro-America site.
And, by the way, "dressed like a whore"?? These women were returning FROM THE BEACH. THEY WERE WEARING BATHING SUITS. But hey, you didn't like the way they looked, so let's have the police pull them over and violate their orifices. You're absolutely insane.
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posted on
07/04/2013 12:42:52 AM PDT
by
fr_freak
To: fr_freak
Those of us raised with decency had enough sense to cover our bathing suits when not AT the beach.
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posted on
07/04/2013 3:58:28 AM PDT
by
Fire_on_High
(RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
To: Fire_on_High
Those of us raised with decency had enough sense to cover our bathing suits when not AT the beach.
Oh, well then obviously these women deserved everything they got, since they didn't adhere to the same standards as you. It's far more important that you get to feel superior than it is that we pay at least lip service to our Constitution.
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posted on
07/04/2013 1:10:51 PM PDT
by
fr_freak
To: fr_freak
It’s not about how I feel, it’s about how they behave.
Do you think they’ll make the same choices next time? Do you think they’ll decide the dope is a good risk again?
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posted on
07/04/2013 4:42:28 PM PDT
by
Fire_on_High
(RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
To: Fire_on_High
Do you think theyll make the same choices next time? Do you think theyll decide the dope is a good risk again?
Of course not - they've learned to love Big Brother, as you have.
You really don't belong on this forum.
88
posted on
07/05/2013 2:12:06 AM PDT
by
fr_freak
To: Albion Wilde
"I don't care if they were murderers." Well, no wonder we differ. I do. And, they did not execute the women, they just asked a woman officer to check them for more drugs.
Your post sounds much like the liberal left which defends the illegal aliens here in AZ as just "nice people who ran from dangerous Mexico." Right. The illegals broke into this country and these women were drug users. Sorry. If the "rule of law" is your mantra, then ask these women to start behaving like they should.
To: Smokin' Joe
"They aren't criminals until they are convicted." Possession is a crime. Sorry, criminals.
To: fr_freak
"I tell you what. The next time you go through a DUI checkpoint and the cop thinks you might have been drinking because he sees a bottlecap lying on the floor, I hope he slaps on a glove and jams his fist up your ass to check if there is a bottle of beer up there." Curious...what would a bottle cap be doing on the floor?
To: Dutchboy88
Because your child was drinking a root beer... but I think you're being deliberately obtuse.
(By the way, a 20 yr old college girl got jumped by 6 men for carrying a 12-pack of LaCroix water, because they thought it was beer... they were ABC agents.)
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posted on
07/05/2013 7:23:07 AM PDT
by
Teacher317
(The public is being manipulated to fleece the taxpayer. That is the real industry in Washington.)
To: traumer
How did he get authorization to search the car?
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posted on
07/05/2013 7:26:10 AM PDT
by
Mad Dawgg
(If you're going to deny my 1st Amendment rights then I must proceed to the 2nd one...)
To: Teacher317
"but I think you're being deliberately obtuse. Because your child was drinking a root beer..."
There, I put it in correct order.
To: Dutchboy88
And prove my point in doing so.
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posted on
07/05/2013 7:38:32 AM PDT
by
Teacher317
(The public is being manipulated to fleece the taxpayer. That is the real industry in Washington.)
To: Teacher317
Well, then, we are glad you don’t teach around here.
To: fr_freak
Oh well. Good thing you don’t get to make that decision, eh?
If you don’t like the laws the proper thing to do is try to change them, not disobey them and cry when you get caught and punished. Especially when it’s a rather light punishment compared to what a lot of others have gotten for similar.
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posted on
07/05/2013 2:58:28 PM PDT
by
Fire_on_High
(RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
To: Fire_on_High
Good Lord, you still don’t have a clue, do you? Nobody minds these women being arrested. What we mind is the ROADSIDE BODY CAVITY SEARCH. I find it impossible to believe that you are too stupid to see the difference in the severity and implications of those two very different reactions to finding a joint in the car, so I’m forced to choose between two extremely unpleasant conclusions: 1) you’re a freaking Nazi, 2) you’re a troll. In either case, you don’t belong here.
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posted on
07/05/2013 5:46:04 PM PDT
by
fr_freak
To: fr_freak
I’m of the point of view that sometimes something not too nice like a beating or a cavity search is the ONLY “punishment” that will end up being doled out due to a soft justice system. Is it wrong? Yeah, perhaps so, but if the choice is between someone getting beaten or searched or getting away scot free, I’m going to choose “let them have SOME consquences at least!” EVERY time.
Don’t like it? Let’s see about a less ineffectual justice system where the law is actually the law, not a money grab, then.
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posted on
07/05/2013 6:09:36 PM PDT
by
Fire_on_High
(RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
To: fr_freak
To be blunt...doesn’t it piss you off when you read the news and find some scumbag got busted with dope, beat someone up, stole a car, whatever, and they got absolutely nothing because they got it thrown out on a silly technicality? Or they got a jury that let them walk because of some factor that wasn’t the facts of the case?
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posted on
07/05/2013 6:32:37 PM PDT
by
Fire_on_High
(RIP City of Heroes and Paragon Studios, victim of the Obamaconomy.)
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