Aviation Expert Tells KCAL9 ‘Pilot Error’ Might Be Cause Of Deadly Plane Crash

CBSLA.com) ^ | July 6, 2013 11:56 PM

[Prole]

Yeah, Deb speaks like a true 0bama believer.

She's a fool, and talks to everyone like they are fools.

[LukeL]

From what I can gather it sounds like their approach speed was to low and either it stalled, or the crew attempted to go full throtle and pull up, which lead to a stall.

[NonValueAdded]

I can see why witnesses said cartwheel now.

[Prole]

Yep.

BTW, Hersman is a registered rat. I figured that's why she is speaking to everyone like they are all stupid. It just gets on my nerves, that's all.

Check out her profile on Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deborah_Hersman

[PapaBear3625]

For some reason the CNN video doesn’t play for me. Here’s the video on youtube

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEDZerwU7uE

[tcrlaf]

Classic situational awareness issues, along with the Asian Never-question-the-captain thing, I now believe.

If you can’t land an aircraft without electronic aids under almost perfect conditions, on a straight-in approach, with no wind issues, you don’t belong in the cockpit.

Something distracted the crew. IMHO, they’ll find they were buried in the tech, (it has happened before) and didn’t notice the problem until it was too late.

You can fix a lot of things, but you just can’t fix the human issues.

[Mark17]

“Pilots have to make what’s called a visual approach, they have to look at the runway and judge their descent and land accordingly.

They also have the PAPI lights. I know the pilots are busy in the cockpit, but I wonder if they paid any attention to them? An accident is not usually caused by one thing, but by a whole chain of events.

[NonValueAdded]

PAPI was also out according to several reports

[Sarah Barracuda]

yeah at first I never believed that it cartwheeled but now I see why many believed that it did..basically from that press conference that the pilot was a moron, this was pilot error, he wanted increased speed even though he was so low to the ground

[Sarah Barracuda]

NewsBreaker ‏@NewsBreaker 3m NEW: Pilot of #Asiana 214 called for a "go around" 1.5 secs before the plane crashed at #SFO

[BenLurkin]

Maybe she is going slow for people who don’t speak English as their first language?

It that’s no the reason, then it is just plain insulting.

[Logical me]

Right on. Going visual with water at a lower level than the runway could have be part of the too low approach. If the runway was level with the water (impossible) he was probably in a good glide path for landing at threshold.

[LukeL]

If you have ever seen video of the United 232 crash, it also appears to cartwheel, but that was just part of the plane that broke off the fuselage.

[Carriage Hill]

WOW!

Ping to actual crash footage:

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/07/07/vo-plane-sf-plane-crash-on-cam.courtesy-fred-hayes.html

[Mark17]

PAPI was also out according to several reports

I see. I did not know that. I was an air traffic controller for 20 years, so I saw my share of aircraft on final. We had VASI lights, but they are not much different from PAPI. I would not be surprised to see the FAA require that either VASI/PAPI or ILS glide slope be operational at all times. We shall see. Thanks for the info.

[expat2]

There was a nice little joke in Flight a while back on this topic:
In a few years time there will be two occupants of the cockpit - a pilot and a dog. The pilot is there to feed the dog; the dog is there to bite the pilot if he tries to touch anything.

[advertising guy]

watchin the fireman’s procession home

http://www.kpho.com/category/224303/kphocom-local-live-streaming

[tcrlaf]

The fuselage stayed mostly intact, though I have no idea how. That saved HUNDREDS of lives.

[Wally_Kalbacken]

A case of premature de-elevation.

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