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Oh, Boy . . . here we go.


4 posted on 07/16/2013 12:12:29 PM PDT by YHAOS
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Dr Schroeder has shown an interesting comparison, positing that if we take the presumed age of the universe (~15 billion years) and count it a day for the the Universe to double in size (each time the Universe has doubled in size is a day) then from God's perspective located at the Beginning of His Creation, only six plus days have passed.

If there are six days so far, the instance of an organism arising from a random mutation then going through a full life cycle in order to generate offspring --in our reference frame of billions of years-- would be how long on the six day chart from God's perspective? Wow, now THAT is intelligent design, to make those momentary adjustments via random mutations!

6 posted on 07/16/2013 12:33:39 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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Thanks for the ping!


12 posted on 07/16/2013 8:51:11 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: YHAOS; Alamo-Girl; MHGinTN; TXnMA; marron; metmom; hosepipe; spirited irish
Oh, Boy . . . here we go.

Doubtful, dear friend and brother in Christ. Ever since the Great Exodus of 2006, there are very few articulate Neo-Darwinists still hanging around FR to "dialogue" with.

More's the pity: We lost some great collaborators with serious scientific credentials back then. But they all left, en masse, in a great huff because "creationists are superstitious morons" and thus not worth their time of day to talk to.

Since then, I've been wondering who the "superstitious morons" actually are. The one thing these dear departed all seemed to agree on is what looks to me like a superstitious, mythical belief in the power of matter to single-handedly bootstrap itself into life and mind, through the alleged power of random variation and natural selection.

It's said that science as we know it today began in alchemy, in magical practices. So, what's so different today, if matter itself transmutes just like "base metals into gold," assuming the proper "magical action" has been invoked?

That is, the supposition here is that the inorganic "evolves" into the organic quite "naturally" — by means of the "magical operations" of random mutation and natural selection, against the background of purely materialist presuppositions hooking up with "natural laws." (From whence were they introduced? That is, where did "natural laws," or the (more reductive) laws of physics come from, that a magician can manipulate to get his desired result?)

Oh well.... Let the dreamers dream, I suppose. It seems one cannot wake them up. They simply prefer to stay asleep.

Thanks for the ping, dear brother!

17 posted on 07/17/2013 3:10:08 PM PDT by betty boop
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