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Vanity: Need Dog Vaccine Adverse Reaction Advice
None ^ | July 16, 2013 | cva66snipe

Posted on 07/16/2013 7:10:29 PM PDT by cva66snipe

We have a Toy Rat Terrier {from a Chihuahua mix} we think is having a delayed reaction to her annual vaccines. Last Tuesday she had her Rabies, Bordetella/Kennel Cough, DA2PP, vaccines. Yesterday evening she started breaking out in bumps on her skin as well as vomiting and bloody stool with diarrhea.

Normally I would assume it is a virus except for this part of her history last year. Last year she had the same shots and about a week later these same symptoms happened and had to be treated. The Vet at that time which was one open on a Saturday gave her antihistamine and Steroids. Today different Vet her regular Vet this time gave her Benedryl, Famotidine injection, and Metronidazole orally to take 14 days.

I believe this is being caused by one of the vaccines. The Vets both of them say a week is too long for that too happen. She's still not wanting to hold down food well but bladder and bowel function is there.

Has anyone experienced this before in this timeframe of delay? This is my wife's companion dog and acts also as my service dog for my hearing with hearing aids out. Thanks.


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To: cva66snipe

Monthly wormers can be disastrous, too.

Give the dog incredibly safe Panacur [available at Tractor Supply] every 3 months, instead.


41 posted on 07/16/2013 8:07:35 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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To: Kirkwood
It definitely isn’t the vaccines. Have you introduced anything new to the home environment (foods, cleansers, etc)? Was she outdoors where she could chew on things like mushrooms, plants, etc? Make a list of everything you did in the previous 24 hours and it will be one of those.

Where I'm at that's a huge list on the outside possibilites. The one thing Rattys do like to do though is sniff more than usual. Only other thing is there's a lot of wild rabbits around in my front yard bit dogs leave them be.

42 posted on 07/16/2013 8:08:45 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

IMO......has to be the vaccine regimen. I would go back to the other vet, ASAP, or find a completely different one. Best wishes and hopes for a quick resolution!


43 posted on 07/16/2013 8:10:42 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: rintense

Thanks. I’ll give it a read.


44 posted on 07/16/2013 8:12:06 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Georgia Girl 2
I didn't think about cottage cheese but it makes sense. Thanks. She was in trouble before the VET gave er the meds today. She was already having bumps on fur, throwing up, and Diarrhea. The thing I'm questioning is her annual shots she got last week that seems to go hand and hand two years running with this.
45 posted on 07/16/2013 8:16:33 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: battletank

Thanks.


46 posted on 07/16/2013 8:18:55 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Salamander
Benadryl children’s strength. He might get sleepy but that’s all. And call your vet ASAP, just to be sure.

Yea I keep the dosage ration posted on the fridge. I can't call the Vet again till morning.

47 posted on 07/16/2013 8:21:46 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: chalkfarmer

Thanks


48 posted on 07/16/2013 8:23:04 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Salamander
P.S...was Lepto included in the shot? Avoid that at all costs. It’s the wrong serovar of Lepto anyway and the side-effects are infamous. It has killed dogs, outright

I don't know. Visit sheet just list vaccines not any ingredients or even trade name of vaccine.

49 posted on 07/16/2013 8:24:49 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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One other thing. She doesn't seem to be running any temperature. Her nose has stayed cold and normal moist to touch throughout all this.
50 posted on 07/16/2013 8:35:27 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

It will keep getting worse with each vaccine.


51 posted on 07/16/2013 8:36:57 PM PDT by rintense
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To: rintense

I did the raw diet for a while with my two Dandies. I loved it because there was no smelly gas and the stool dried up in the yard, turned white and went away. None of the soft messy stuff. However, I quit doing it because it was so expensive for 2 40 lb dogs and I’m too lazy to make it all myself. I still give raw meaty bones which they love. I highly recommend the raw food diet though.


52 posted on 07/16/2013 8:42:52 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Salamander

I only get the vaccinations that are required by law. Also only give heartworm pills about once every 2 months. All is so expensive and unnecessary in my opinion. The vets make a fortune by recommending that we buy all these monthly doses. Too many chemicals, I think. My vet treated my dogs ear with a steroid to prevent future yeast infections and she totally lost her hearing shortly thereafter. She’s only 8 years old. . They take them back there and give them all kinds of injections and then present you with a bill for $300.


53 posted on 07/16/2013 8:49:57 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: rintense
It will keep getting worse with each vaccine.

Yea that's what I believe and I've seen serious medication adverse reactions in humans before several times. Reactions that I was told simply did not happen. My wife took Trazadone and Zoloft and thought she was an angel. That went on almost a week. It also nearly killed her. Thank GOD for the internet. I figured it out they didn't.

54 posted on 07/16/2013 8:51:58 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Well she just got sick again. She threw up clear liquid this time. Maybe the worse is over.


55 posted on 07/16/2013 8:58:53 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: cva66snipe

Everyone has done a great job of covering the basics. Two things (hopefully, I didn’t miss them already mentioned).
You can get titers for rabies, at least, & probably others.
Ft Dodge is a manufacturer I avoid.

Three things- for the FRiend whose fur kid has seizures & can’t take HW prevention. I just ordered Dimmitrol (same as the old Filaribits) from one of the Australian pet pharmacies. If you decide to go this route, have your critter tested first, even if they have been tested recently.

Sending you prayers, cva66snipe.


56 posted on 07/16/2013 9:12:31 PM PDT by KGeorge (Till we're together again, Gypsy girl. May 28, 1998- June 3, 2013)
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To: KGeorge

Thanks. I gotta hit the hay soon. Four hours sleep in the last 30 hours is a wearing me down. If she isn’t a lot more perky tomorrow I’m going to take her to the Vet she saw last year when it happened. My gut instinct says vaccine reaction as does common sense with the timeframes exactally matching. I’ve been a make shift nurse {caregiver} for 28 years and my gut instinct usually holds true.


57 posted on 07/16/2013 9:30:29 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Salamander

Good info, thanks. :)


58 posted on 07/16/2013 9:37:24 PM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: cva66snipe

I know everyone is mentioning low doses of benadryl but dogs metabolize much different than ppl. I have a 75 # basset that was prescribed 150 mg of benadryl a day. And it didn’t phase him. Don’t be shocked at the dose if you vet recommends that for the dog.

Also, rabies shots are 1 for the first year, then one every three years.

Going forward you may need to med dog before getting vaccines.


59 posted on 07/16/2013 9:53:04 PM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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To: cva66snipe

It was probably the 6 or 7 “combo” shot which includes Lepto.

*If* I vaccinate, I insist upon separate vax spaced out over time.

I never ‘shotgun’ vaccinate with the combos.

Someone once asked why our dogs seemed to live longer ‘back in the day’.

We have better food, better vet care, better diagnostics yet they still die/get sick more often than they really should.

The only thing that’s changed is the vaccine push, which, coincidentally, is extremely profitable for vets.

Before I bought into the annual vax protocol, my dogs only went to the vet to be neutered and occasional required shots.

Nobody ever ‘got sick’.
Since the over vaccination craze, I feel like I’m dragging somebody in every month for some weird, obscure thing.

My vet doesn’t like it but I’ve let years go by before I come in for their ‘annuals’.

The rabies I *have* to do every three years due to state law but the rest is pointless, IMO.

The Lyme vax is now under scrutiny for causing Lyme symptoms even though it doesn’t cause the actual disease.

Same difference, if you ask me.


60 posted on 07/16/2013 10:01:33 PM PDT by Salamander (.......Uber Alice!.......)
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