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10 weird renewable energy sources
MSN.com ^ | 6-13-2013 | Aimee Picchi

Posted on 7/17/2013, 7:01:48 PM by digger48

Putting the 'new' in renewable

From Fred Flintstone's foot-powered car to the Starship Enterprise's dilithium crystals, Americans have a rich history of imagining alternative fuel sources for petroleum-free worlds.

But what may have seemed like science fiction just two decades ago -- think dance floors that produce energy and cars that run on chocolate -- is quickly becoming reality.

To be sure, not all of these technologies will make it out of the laboratory, and many are decades away from achieving mainstream adoption. Yet with growing concern about climate change and rising costs at the gas pump, more consumers are opting to think outside the box when it comes to powering their homes and cars.

(Excerpt) Read more at money.msn.com ...


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Some of these make more sense than covering the country iwith tens of thousands of Industrial Wind Turbines that have a life expectancy of 20 years or less and create more CO2 to consruct than they will save in their lifetime and will never, ever be able to contribute more than 7% of our electrical demands
1 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:01:48 PM by digger48
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I just don’t understand the dislike of petroleum. It offers one of the best BTU/volume ratios out there and still be pretty stable and safe to transport.


2 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:03:46 PM by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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Saw a stat the other day that there are 14,000 abandoned wind turbines in this country, just rusting away across the fruited plain.

The minute the subsidies dry-up the people who own them no longer want to be bothered maintaining them.


3 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:05:24 PM by Buckeye McFrog
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To: thackney

Ping.


4 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:06:57 PM by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: digger48

The reason gas prices is because of so called environmentalists and our criminal government. A Denver Post article a couple years ago said crude oil for oil shale could cost $35 per barrel. Regular oil could be much less. Why is the cost of oil $100, to pay off the Saudis.


5 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:07:05 PM by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: ShadowAce

The only “beef” i have with them, is the money we’re giving the amish for them.


6 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:08:35 PM by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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Yet with growing concern about climate change...

They misspelled "vanishing."

7 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:12:51 PM by xjcsa (Ridiculing the ridiculous since the day I was born.)
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To: digger48

technically the dilithium crystals are not the energy source, they focus energy, and in the process, get worn down and eventually need replacing.

/trek nerd off


8 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:13:33 PM by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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it’s a FFF - forever a fossil fuel

therefore evil and killing mother earf /misspell deliberate


9 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:14:55 PM by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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There are a few areas where wind turbines make sense. They usually have climates with steady wind and often lack of factors which shorten the life of the tubines such as low rainfall, outside paths of migratory birds, etc.

The Palm Springs, California area gets quite a bit of their energy needs from wind turbines.

10 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:15:10 PM by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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The dislike of petroleum is a Satanic thing.
God creates petroleum for us to use, and Satan loves waste.
If you really get into it, you'll find the world was first habitat-ed by angels,
but became waste and void when Satan and his followers rebelled against our Heavenly Father.
Most of this waste became crude oil, and most of the decay today becomes, in some small form, crude oil.
Satan loves waste, and despises anything put to use.
Satan mixes truth with lies so that you cannot tell the difference.
11 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:15:48 PM by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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One way to jump start the bio-diesel / algae production would be to require those farmers with land in the CRP (crop reduction program) where the government is paying farmers to NOT produce crops, to require them to produce X gallons of bio-diesel per acre that they register in the program.

Most farm equipment runs on diesel so this would get them to start making their own diesel and they can then sell the excess into the marketplace.


12 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:23:58 PM by taxcontrol
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There is no evidence that decaying anything becomes oil. Just like there is no evidence that decaying animals can become diamonds (another form of carbon).


13 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:25:39 PM by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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The minute the subsidies dry-up the people who own them no longer want to be bothered maintaining them.

Almost. It's more like, they can't AFFORD to maintain them. The maintenance costs alone on those machines would necessitate lots more revenue to keep them going. That means rate hikes. Most local governments won't approve rate hikes until the grid is dependent on them. This is starting to happen and will get worse the longer they are running and the longer the government subsidizes the maintenance of them.

14 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:30:25 PM by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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Could be the way it has had a monopoly and marketed through a commodities system that wholly Billy spikes and price gouges people a d the world economies!


15 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:35:01 PM by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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it’s a FFF - forever a fossil fuel

Here's an interesting little tidbit. That which we call "Fossil Fuels" are not from fossils or necessarily organics at all. Hydrocarbon based fuel sources are being extracted at depths far deeper than any organic or biodegraded organic material could have ever existed. The Russians figured this out 50 years ago. Hydrocarbons have been found to naturally form at just the right temperatures and pressures when hydrogen and carbon are squeezed together. Guess what some of the most abundant elements on the planet are?

Theories are evolving now that may prove that the earth is constantly making hydrocarbons and they routinely leach from the lower crust to the upper crust. This also explains why so many wells produce petroleum long after they should have expected to run dry. The BP Deep Water Gulf Rig was drilling into a find that they thought might produce eternally based on the pressure, depth and type.

I'd have to find the long and boring research paper link to post.

16 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:37:39 PM by Tenacious 1 (If the government told us to expect rain, I'd schedule an outdoor wedding.)
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Read and learn, and then it won't be so easy for you to shoot yourself in the foot.
17 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:48:41 PM by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: ShadowAce

Bookmarked, to document sheer stupidity.


18 posted on 7/17/2013, 7:54:00 PM by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Hydrocarbon based fuel sources are being extracted at depths far deeper than any organic or biodegraded organic material could have ever existed.

False. All crude oil is found in sedimentary basins trapped in material laid down from the surface. Crude oil contains biotic markers and micro-fossils (of plankton and the like).

19 posted on 7/17/2013, 8:15:17 PM by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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I just don’t understand the dislike of petroleum. It offers one of the best BTU/volume ratios out there and still be pretty stable and safe to transport.

I have a hunch it's an aversion to American petroleum; petroleum from Islamic terrorist states is a different matter altogether to leftist extremists.

20 posted on 7/17/2013, 8:47:53 PM by Standing Wolf
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