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MBA Students Are Totally Deluded About How Much Money They'll Make
Business Insider ^ | 07/18/2013 | Max Nisen

Posted on 07/18/2013 8:22:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Many would-be MBAs expect a salary after graduation that's far in excess of what they can hope for. The average US MBA student expects to earn $140,000 on graduating, a 240% increase from the average current pre-enrollment salary of $58,000, according to a survey by QS TopMBA.com,

The reality? Payscale puts the median for grads with 4 or less years of experience at $55,779, and $71,920 for those with 5-9 years.

Graduates of top schools can usually still expect 6 figures.

MBA salaries have been flat for some time now as graduates price themselves out of many industries, traditionally lucrative banks slash pay, and startups grow increasingly skeptical. Expected salary has gone down slightly from last year, but it's still extremely high.

Students expect a salary that only students from the top schools in the country get close to. In fact, even Harvard and Stanford only reach $140,000 if you add the average bonus on top of salary. Since the survey includes students from the full spectrum of programs, these expectations are far out of step with reality.

Students outside the US have even higher expectations, with prospective Indian MBAs expecting a 469% increase, and South Africans, a 387% bump.

Here's the report's chart of what incoming MBAs expect around the world:

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: college; mba; salaries
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1 posted on 07/18/2013 8:22:44 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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2 posted on 07/18/2013 8:23:37 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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3 posted on 07/18/2013 8:24:02 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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4 posted on 07/18/2013 8:24:31 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To recent MBS graduates: Here’s the deal, kid. It is a sheet of paper that gives you a chance, nothing more. It is up to you to make something of it, and you are not guaranteed to succeed. Now go and work hard.


5 posted on 07/18/2013 8:25:24 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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6 posted on 07/18/2013 8:25:47 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Just learn Ruby or Java and make $80k with no college. Americans need to break free of the LIES of Big Education.


7 posted on 07/18/2013 8:26:33 AM PDT by montag813 (NO AMNESTY * ENFORCE THE LAW * http://StandWithArizona.com)
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Well, what can you say? The market determines what an MBA is worth, as it does for so many other categories of employee.

Anecdotal evidence among people I know in the business world, is that they don’t like to hire MBAs. They don’t think their education and training gives them any greater management skills than those with just a bachelor’s in some business related field.


8 posted on 07/18/2013 8:27:37 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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YEP...what YOU said....


9 posted on 07/18/2013 8:29:47 AM PDT by goodnesswins (R.I.P. Doherty, Smith, Stevens, Woods.)
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MBA graduates are also deluded about how much they destroyed from the nation's businesses wealth during the last 20 years.

Why buck a solid pillar of their legacy?

10 posted on 07/18/2013 8:32:41 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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You’d think someone who studied business would, in the process, learn enough about business to predict how much businesses will pay for someone with a degree in business.


11 posted on 07/18/2013 8:33:01 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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so....gather up all of our most deluded graduates, and put them in control of all the key levers in the economy. Swell!


12 posted on 07/18/2013 8:33:03 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Or NOT pay for it by going the unconventional route: download the bootleg Lynda videos or Youtube. One of our graphic designer kids here in Hollywood did just that. His reply is “paying for an education is for suckers”.


13 posted on 07/18/2013 8:34:43 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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An acquaintance of mine has a nephew who graduated with an MBA from a better-than-average name school.

Despite this he spent almost a year looking. Finally got an offer, but was about to turn it down because it was on the West Coast and was for “only $73,000” !!!

His uncle whacked the kid upside the head and told him “what, are you NUTS?? TAKE IT!!!


14 posted on 07/18/2013 8:35:49 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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Any recommendations on starting with ruby?


15 posted on 07/18/2013 8:36:02 AM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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The trouble with MBAs is they think they know everything.

Real pains in the behind.


16 posted on 07/18/2013 8:36:21 AM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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It is not their education and training so much as their attitudes. Yeah, I have an MBA. And yeah, it gives you training across a broader spectrum of business fields than an undergraduate degree in one of those specialties.

But unless you are some extraordinary hotshot headed for one of the few top slots in the existing corporate world or, even less likely, have a great idea for your own start-up, most of us settle into a fairly specialized field anyway or, like me, become enough of a generalist that we are in charge of several broad functions in a smaller organization.

17 posted on 07/18/2013 8:37:40 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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Apart from medical school,pharmacy school’s the place to be.Kids just graduating are getting $80K/yr.The only downside is that you could have a lousy work schedule,particularly at first.


18 posted on 07/18/2013 8:38:06 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (The Civil Servants Are No Longer Servants...Or Civil.)
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Same for newly minted attorneys....
seeems.....
19 posted on 07/18/2013 8:38:57 AM PDT by Wings-n-Wind (The main things are the plain things!)
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As one who has an MBA (among and assortment of 3 other undergraduate and graduate degrees) let this maxim be your guide to personal skills-set value pricing.

The firm or client which employs you does so and understands your value to their organization on the basis of one of two simple realities:

(1) Whether you make them a boat load of money, or

(2) Whether you save them a boat load of money.

Staff enhancements and reductions routinely follow this maxim.

Advice: add skills sets and education to yourself which in turn add real value to your employer.

Anything else is, as you say, just a piece of paper.

FReegards!


20 posted on 07/18/2013 8:40:19 AM PDT by Agamemnon (Darwinism is the glue that holds liberalism together)
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