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Brought home a new puppy yesterday; he's got Parvo
22 July 2013 | Rides a Red Horse

Posted on 07/22/2013 2:29:33 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse

The wife and I just brought home a German Shepherd pup yesterday. He seemed "shy" but later I realized he was lethargic. He ate a bit but not like what you would expect from a two month old Shepherd.

We took him to the Vet today to have him checked out and he tested positive for Parvo. He hadn't started puking yet and they put him on IVs so with a little luck he should recover.

Our other dog is up to date on his shots and the cats are supposed to be immune. I went around and disinfected everything he touched. The vet said they have a 90% success rate so it looks good.

I contacted the family who sold us the pup. They called back and let me know the last one from the litter died.

Does anyone here have experience with Parvo?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine; Miscellaneous; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; parvo; pets; puppy; sickpuppy
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1 posted on 07/22/2013 2:29:33 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Gotta run but I’ll check in later.


2 posted on 07/22/2013 2:30:12 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse; Joe 6-pack

Had a friend whose pup had Parvo. Recovered completely, lived a long and happy life. Sweet dog.


3 posted on 07/22/2013 2:31:08 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have IngSoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

That’s terrible. The family that sold you the dog didn’t warn you?

Sick puppy ping


4 posted on 07/22/2013 2:32:14 PM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Sounds cruel, but take him back where you got him. Get your money back.

Now.


5 posted on 07/22/2013 2:35:14 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I would go to the family and ask for my money back. Good luck to your puppy.


6 posted on 07/22/2013 2:38:00 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Inside every liberal and WOD defender is a totalitarian screaming to get out.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

A friend of mine had a similar experience and the puppy survived, growing up to be unusually large and strong.


7 posted on 07/22/2013 2:38:49 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Responsibility2nd

“Sounds cruel, but take him back where you got him. Get your money back.”

I agree with you. The seller should have never sold the puppy without vaccination. The pup might recover but with lingering effects his entire life.


8 posted on 07/22/2013 2:40:18 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

While we are currently animal free due to young kids, we did have a bullmastiff who benefitted greatly from high quality probiotics. We fed him the same ones we take and now also give our kids. My in-laws have a Boxer with GI issues due to previous owner abuse and we giver her probiotics when we dog sit. She always does much better with us due to this, but my in-laws don’t believe in witch medicine. Since most of our immune system is in our gut, would this not hold true for pups as well? Anyway, there are no side effects so what would it hurt?


9 posted on 07/22/2013 2:41:54 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: chrisinoc

Well, it sounds like the pup’s new owner will likely provide it a far better home than where it came from....

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10 posted on 07/22/2013 2:41:58 PM PDT by faithhopecharity
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To: vetvetdoug

ping.


11 posted on 07/22/2013 2:42:44 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

My “free” puppy cost me $1,200 because of a week spent at the vet recovering from parvo. Yes they can recover and many do. Sounds like you got the pup to the vet in time.


12 posted on 07/22/2013 2:43:30 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

We saw a lot of Parvo cases at the clinic I worked at. Your yard is infected and only the sun and time will kill the virus eventually. Do not let anyone bring their pets over for a few months—even the dogs with the vaccinations will become carriers and take the virus home with them. Odoban [have seen it in Sams Club (gallon), WalMart and Ace Hardware (both quarts only in my area)] is good for the surfaces that can’t handle bleach.

You and your puppy are in my prayers. I’ve seen the weakest puppy survive and its much stronger litter-mate not make it.


13 posted on 07/22/2013 2:44:45 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: chrisinoc

Rides posted he has taken the dog to the vet and they put the puppy on IV fluids.

I have no idea, but I’m guessing the vet bills could go 4-5 hundred dollars or more.

Add that to the cost they paid - and that eqauals a rip-off.

Of course - if they’re already too emotionally attached - there is nothing they likely can do.


14 posted on 07/22/2013 2:45:25 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

parvo. meaning heart worms?
if so and since he is young it can be treated. expensive.
once treated always remember to give pills. some are weekly monthly etc. good luck.
ps spca sold me a collie w heart worms. adult. several hundred dollars later he was good. they forgot to tell me about the pills. his name was cleo. miss him


15 posted on 07/22/2013 2:45:29 PM PDT by Donnafrflorida (Thru HIM all things are possible.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Wikipedia goes into good detail about it (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canine_parvovirus). Highly contagious and treatment requires hospitalization. We lost our Lab last December and our Spaniel is almost 14 years old with several cardio-respiratory issues and probably at most a year left. I’d like to get a German Shepherd next and based on what I just read about the disease your puppy has contracted we’ll make sure to have him or her vaccinated for it. Good luck!


16 posted on 07/22/2013 2:46:11 PM PDT by katana (Just my opinions)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Unless you have already bonded with this dog, return him and get your money back. The vet bills can quickly add up and it's unlikely that the breeder will pick up the tab.
Parvo is spread by coming in contact with an infected dogs wastes or fluids which suggest that this breeder did not have his dogs properly vaccinated.
17 posted on 07/22/2013 2:47:02 PM PDT by Malone LaVeigh
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

puppy prayers


18 posted on 07/22/2013 2:47:47 PM PDT by TexasCajun (Creepy-Ass Cracker)
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To: Responsibility2nd

Don’t know about the cost but our vet was an old country boy and all he charged us for after the initial treatment was the week of kennel time. it was less than $200.


19 posted on 07/22/2013 2:50:00 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I’m so sorry.


20 posted on 07/22/2013 2:50:59 PM PDT by pallmallman (Q)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
I saw a guy with sled dogs that had Parvo on one of those reality shows. He lived in bum-wadd Alaska hundreds of miles from any vets, so he mixed a small amount of bleach into their feed and it saved them.

I sure hope your puppy recovers. I had a wonderful German Shepard when I was a kid. They've been my favorite dog since.

21 posted on 07/22/2013 2:52:14 PM PDT by Slump Tester (What if I'm pregnant Teddy? Errr-ahh -Calm down Mary Jo, we'll cross that bridge when we come to it)
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To: goodwithagun

Parvo dehydrates the dog; vomiting and diarrhea wouldn’t let the food stay in long enough right now, but that would be great afterwards. Recovery can take a while and anything to help the puppy get back to normal would be a plus.


22 posted on 07/22/2013 2:52:16 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Parvo isn’t heart worm, it is a canine infectious virus. Two very different diseases. One is brought about by mosquitoes the other is bacteria transmitted.


23 posted on 07/22/2013 2:53:12 PM PDT by madison10
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Sadly, I had an experience like this. We bought a Lab puppy that came down with Parvo. I took care of hime for three days, constantly giving him IV’s, but it was no use. It was heartbreaking to watch him the last few hours. Even though we had only had him a few days, I cried when he died.


24 posted on 07/22/2013 2:53:57 PM PDT by CA Conservative (Texan by birth, Californian by circumstance)
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To: Donnafrflorida

Parvo is a virus and has nothing to do with worms.


25 posted on 07/22/2013 2:54:39 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Responsibility2nd
“Rides posted he has taken the dog to the vet and they put the puppy on IV fluids.

I have no idea, but I’m guessing the vet bills could go 4-5 hundred dollars or more.

Add that to the cost they paid - and that eqauals a rip-off.

Of course - if they’re already too emotionally attached - there is nothing they likely can do.”

It will be a lot more than $400. The German shepherd rescue I volunteer for have been able to save some who were the shelter and their recovery costs have been over $1000 each.

26 posted on 07/22/2013 2:56:11 PM PDT by chrisinoc
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Yes, fluids, antibiotics, antiemetics and antidiarrheals are in order for the pup. It depends how much damage the virus does to the gut cells and if the disease progresses to a protein losing enteropathy with a severe leukopenia. Most can be saved with good veterinary care.
27 posted on 07/22/2013 2:58:25 PM PDT by vetvetdoug
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

If you decide to keep the puppy and are willing to do the nursing, you can give it fluids at home. If you have the spare money, the vet will quarantine it and do the work for you. However, many animal clinics do not have 24-hour care, unless a tech or doctor is caring enough to come in and check after hours. It’s a terrible thing for a puppy and the family to go through, but it’s not any more complicated than changing out the fluid bags and disinfecting properly.


28 posted on 07/22/2013 3:01:23 PM PDT by skr (May God confound the enemy)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Did you know anything about the “breeder” who sold you the pup? I would never buy from backyard breeders... ever.


29 posted on 07/22/2013 3:02:43 PM PDT by ScottinVA (If you don't care about Antonio Santiago, sure as hell don't whine about Trayvon Martin.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

The shelter we got our puppy from accidentally gave our dog the parvo vaccine twice, in effect giving him parvo.

He was lethargic, thin, and losing liquids. Couldn’t keep anything down. Our vet basically told us to take him home and make him comfortable.

My wife wasn’t going to let him die. She used an eyedropper to squirt liquids and baby food down his throat. She kept him in her lap overnight, giving him squirts of food and water every hour or so.

Good news is that Diesel pulled through. He is a happy, healthy ball or energy at four years old. He currently weighs in at about 50 pounds and, not surprisingly, insists on sitting in my wife’s lap if she has any food!


30 posted on 07/22/2013 3:03:41 PM PDT by Crusher138 ("Then conquer we must, for our cause it is just")
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To: skr
Your yard is infected and only the sun and time will kill the virus eventually. Do not let anyone bring their pets over for a few months—even the dogs with the vaccinations will become carriers and take the virus home with them. Odoban [have seen it in Sams Club (gallon), WalMart and Ace Hardware (both quarts only in my area)] is good for the surfaces that can’t handle bleach.

In the yard, you can try a product called "Consan Triple Action 20" for disinfection. It kills mold and bacteria and is supposed to be effective against certain types of virus. It's intended as a lawn fungicide/algaecide, but the label indicates it is also a good laundry sanitizer; I use it with colored fabrics. Home Depot and Ace carry it.

31 posted on 07/22/2013 3:03:50 PM PDT by Spirochete (Does the FedGov have the attributes of a legitimate government?)
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To: vetvetdoug; Rides_A_Red_Horse

Most can be saved with good veterinary care.

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Listen to whatever vetvetdoug tells you. He is an EXCELLENT vet.

;-)


32 posted on 07/22/2013 3:06:52 PM PDT by SumProVita (Cogito, ergo....Sum Pro Vita - Modified Descartes)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Get some colloidal silver Now!!!!!


33 posted on 07/22/2013 3:07:09 PM PDT by Jayster
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To: skr

The probiotics would help with both the diarrhea and vomitting, thus lessening the dehydration issues.


34 posted on 07/22/2013 3:09:01 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I had a parvo puppy. sadly she did not survive despite several trips to the vet that day( I switched vets)
diarrhea that smelled terrible, like nothing I had experienced before. I wish u luck!!!!


35 posted on 07/22/2013 3:10:13 PM PDT by ronniesgal (Hey if the NSA is reading this....gfy. thnkskbye.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

From what I gather catch it early like you did and the dog is usually OK with treatment. My nephew has a Jack Russell that had it right after he got the dog. He survived it fine with treatment.


36 posted on 07/22/2013 3:13:11 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

At the very least the breeder should refund the purchase price of the dog. They had to know the pup was sick.


37 posted on 07/22/2013 3:16:12 PM PDT by KirbDog
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse
Gotta run but I’ll check in later.

Not cool. If this was important to you, you would stick around for replies, not check in later.
Tacky post and run.

38 posted on 07/22/2013 3:19:40 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Joe 6-pack

ping


39 posted on 07/22/2013 3:19:58 PM PDT by KirbDog
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To: shotgun

4 days in the vet for my old Airedale 10 years ago.was $1,400. He was bitten in two places by black widow spiders. He was one sick puppy.

Just before he died earlier this year I spent $1,400 for 1 night at a specialistand a needle biopsy. They were looking for cancer. They didn’t find any. They just found an infection in his lung. He died two days later probably from a clot. He was at home with us. That $1,400 was without oxygen and any lfe saving care. It did include anesthsia to do the biopsy. If I wanted to leave him there it was $700 per day for basic critical care. This was a referral vet where other gets refer cases they can’t solve or require specialized treatment. I spent close to $2,500 in total in the 3 weeks before he died. That’s the price of living in Low Angeles.


40 posted on 07/22/2013 3:20:19 PM PDT by airedale
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I have a very reputable trainer that is a client of mine. He has won on the national and international levels and a couple of his puppies came down with parvo. Yes, they were vaccinated, but there is some weird deal that if they are still nursing the mom’s antibodies in her milk can kill the parvo vaccine. I never knew this until he explained it and a vet, another customer, confirmed.

It is not always a bad breeder/trainer. It is sometimes the luck of the draw.


41 posted on 07/22/2013 3:29:51 PM PDT by rey
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

I had a puppy with parvo. Vet directed me to give it Pedia lite. He recovered fully.


42 posted on 07/22/2013 3:30:37 PM PDT by Ajnin (Neca eos omnes. Deus suos agnocet!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

My granddaughter has a beautiful and sweet pit bull who recovered from Parvo. It left her — the dog! — a little goofy (it can impact the brain) but she is completely clear 2+ later.

Good luck with your pup. Hope she makes it!


43 posted on 07/22/2013 3:33:09 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Hitler would have LOVED obozo!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

My granddaughter has a beautiful and sweet pit bull who recovered from Parvo. It left her — the dog! — a little goofy (it can impact the brain) but she is completely clear 2+ later.

Good luck with your pup. Hope she makes it!


44 posted on 07/22/2013 3:34:21 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Hitler would have LOVED obozo!)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Do not take him back. That would be a death sentence for him.


45 posted on 07/22/2013 3:34:58 PM PDT by HChampagne
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46 posted on 07/22/2013 3:36:14 PM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Qui me amat, amat et canem meum.)
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

Since you caught it early (before he started vomiting) there is a very good chance your puppy will recover fully. I think taking the puppy back to where you got him would be a death sentence.  

Just make sure when you get his shots that you tell them that he has had parvo, the vet will make the decision whether to use the killed or the live virus.

Best to you. I hope he recovers fully.


47 posted on 07/22/2013 3:42:01 PM PDT by aubreys_mom
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

My neighbor had a Yorkie that hat it and that dog survived and lets us know by his yapping every day.
Best of luck to your dog!


48 posted on 07/22/2013 3:44:41 PM PDT by funfan
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To: Rides_A_Red_Horse

We had a dog that recovered very well from Parvo.


49 posted on 07/22/2013 3:48:06 PM PDT by mtnwmn (Liberalism leads to Socialism)
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To: airedale

I feel your pain. My last German Shorthair went off her fed after a weekend of hunting. by the next weekend I took her to the vet in Seattle and charged me $400 for x-rays and came back that they thought she had heart problems but the meds would really expensive. She snaps out of it and about a month later she goes off her feed again so I take her back in and another $400 for more x-rays and still nothing but this time there maybe a touch of pneumonia. She snapped out for about a couple weeks until I noticed she was having a hard time breathing and her coat was pretty mangy. It was a Saturday morning and she just stood there looking at me like she didn’t want anymore pain.

So I took her in to the same vet and he started out with they wanted to take more x-rays. I told him with all due respect that I wasn’t going to pay for them, that I had over $15,000 invested in this dog, she was a world class and bred shorthair and she need to be put down. He agreed but would take x-rays at no charge just so they could see what was going on. Turns out that she was ate up with cancer but it took 2 full doses to put her down. I never cried so hard in my life. She was just 8.


50 posted on 07/22/2013 3:48:36 PM PDT by shotgun
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