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The When: “The Economic Collapse Cannot Be Predicted By Looking at Stock Market Charts...
SHTFPlan.com ^ | 30 July, 2013 | Mac Slavo

Posted on 07/31/2013 9:02:31 AM PDT by Errant

Most astute observers and analysts understand that the world is on the brink of a widespread economic collapse. Our debt, the expansion of the U.S. police state, the militarization of governments, and geo-political posturing are all pointing to an end to life as we have come to know it in the modern world.

We know it’s coming.

The question is when?

What signs should we be looking for?

What will be the catalyst?

The following micro documentary from Storm Clouds Gathering examines the complexity of the variables involved, the intentions of those making the decisions, and the various possibilities – real or imagined – that may set the whole thing into motion.

(Excerpt) Read more at shtfplan.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Conspiracy; Society
KEYWORDS: collapse; economy; shtf
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To: Errant; Kartographer; blam; ChocChipCookie; Marcella; Bride Of Old Sarge; yorkiemom; ...

I personally am looking at a trifecta to occur:

* A financial collapse or media-driven panic;
* Race riots sparked by another high-profile incident;
* Another mass casualty event involving guns.

If those happen, either in rapid succession or all at once, watch the official response from the regime. That will seal the deal, so to speak.


21 posted on 07/31/2013 11:53:38 AM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Old Sarge
I think the US will be last on the list simply because we have the keys to the world's reserve currency printing press. Eventually we'll be caught up in the maelstrom as well.

I don't disagree at all with your predictions. But what I see coming when the chain reactions going on in the Middle East reach criticality, will make our economic troubles pale to insignificance.

22 posted on 07/31/2013 12:14:37 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Errant

What will be the catalyst?


When the money runs out. Nothing will change till then.

For the USSR, the money ran out when they couldn’t borrow anymore internationally, when their satellite countries began to ignore them, when the bureaucracy become so overbearing it couldn’t even function.


23 posted on 07/31/2013 12:37:16 PM PDT by PeterPrinciple
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To: Old Sarge
The Utube film fellow is saying war is the mostly likely next event to bring it crashing down, perhaps next year. I am in agreement with war being the next danger for the country and swift decline during that and we could also have attacks on this country due to that war. No matter what happens, I'm ready for whatever it is in terms of preparation.

As for me, I'm sweating out hurricane season from now to October. That is my danger area now. Old Sarge, you are in Florida, so that's a possibility for you, too. As long as my house is still standing after a hurricane, I'm good. I'll still have power and water and food and fans to combat the heat - been there, done that several times.

24 posted on 07/31/2013 1:12:47 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

Marcella, darlin’, you and I are both prepped to ride out the storms.

Weather is something we can handle because we know what’s associated with it. There are a lot of unknowns with societal failures, and that throws variables into the equation.


25 posted on 07/31/2013 2:21:56 PM PDT by Old Sarge (My "KMA List" is growing daily...)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

From 1870 to 1890, we were in a great depression. We may be looking at another generation-long economic crunch, and we’re only 5 years in.


26 posted on 07/31/2013 5:19:53 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: Errant
This will be a whole new level of war, one that will like draw in Russia and China, and which has the potential to bring the entire planet to utter ruin

I doubt they want utter ruin but Putin has been biding his time just waiting for hussein to royally screw up.

27 posted on 07/31/2013 7:24:35 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

The Amerika of 2013 is unreconizable to me.


28 posted on 07/31/2013 7:25:28 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

I’ve been having to make trips out to some very backward rural areas and I can’t believe how the farmers and ranchers have let the land go. You’d think with the economy, they would be trying to utilize as much grazing and fertile acreage as possible. But that’s not what I’m seeing. Pastures are growing up with briars and small trees where in the past those would have been cleared out for cattle. Fields aren’t being cultivated. Orchards have been left to die. I’ve been around there all my life and I’ve never seen it like this. I honestly don’t know what to think of it or what it might mean.


29 posted on 07/31/2013 7:36:21 PM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: bgill
I seem to recall some writings somewhere predicting certain countries being hooked and drawn into conflict. Hussein has left a few jewels in the desert just waiting for the right person to come along and pick them up.

"Russian President Vladimir Putin met in Moscow with Saudi Intelligence Chief Prince Bandar Bin Sultan on Wednesday, Itar Tass news agency reported. “A broad range of issues in bilateral relations, the situation in the Middle East and North Africa have been discussed,” Russian President’s press secretary Dmitry Peskov told reporters."

30 posted on 07/31/2013 7:58:09 PM PDT by Errant
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To: Georgia Girl 2
Pretty nuch we are expecting the same thing. A slow devolving into permanent depression and third world conditions over the next 3-5 years.

How can it *NOT* happen when a simple trip to the grocery store demonstrates to me that a majority of our population are already "3rd-Worlders"? I call them "the primitives".

31 posted on 07/31/2013 10:27:34 PM PDT by The Duke
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To: bgill; Mr. Jeeves
The Amerika of 2013 is unreconizable to me.

My first thought, too.

32 posted on 07/31/2013 10:46:59 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: bgill

“Fields aren’t being cultivated. Orchards have been left to die. I’ve been around there all my life and I’ve never seen it like this. I honestly don’t know what to think of it or what it might mean.”

It’s not like that around here - every SCRAP of land is in some form or cultivation or woodlot...and this is the most LIBERAL county in the state!

If those areas are REALLY rural, as in no other jobs/towns, etc. in the area, that land might be owned by city folk/local government for future use, or it’s farmland owned by a family and the ‘farm’ is gone and the kids have moved on and want nothing to do with the rural life.

Just a couple of ideas...


33 posted on 08/01/2013 8:20:30 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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