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The Last Nomads and the Culture of Fear
Pattern Litteracy ^ | 1-3-2013 | Toby Hemenway

Posted on 08/06/2013 2:33:54 PM PDT by Renfield

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1 posted on 08/06/2013 2:33:54 PM PDT by Renfield
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I suspect (and this theory has been propounded by many others) that the only reason people abandoned foraging and took up farming, was to guarantee a supply of beer. There is a fair bit of archaeological evidence to indicate that beer predates bread.


2 posted on 08/06/2013 2:36:04 PM PDT by Renfield (Turning apples into venison since 1999!)
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A liberal calls this nomadic:

>>Over time, we settled into a pattern of two or three month stays in a modest rental house, punctuated by a few transition weeks in the RV while we traveled to and explored a new place.

And then pines for the day when stone age tribes roamed the plains before humans were “domesticated by agriculture”.

I wonder what they ate on their RV tour of the west? Did they kill their own meat and spend the whole day gathering berries and edible plants? Or did they eat the same food as the rest of us “domesticated” people as they went out on their walking tours before returning to their air conditioned RV with all the comforts of home in the evening?


3 posted on 08/06/2013 2:40:47 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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I think we know the answer to that. They ate granola and arugula.

lol


4 posted on 08/06/2013 2:43:20 PM PDT by GeronL
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“how much humans lost when we became domesticated by agriculture.”

Yes, we lost the ability to galavant around in a motor vehicle, eat preserved food so that we don’t have to hunt and gather, and post our musings on the internet through the development of written language.

Oh wait...none of that would be possible had we not been “domesticated.”


5 posted on 08/06/2013 2:43:35 PM PDT by henkster (The 0bama regime isn't a train wreck, it's a B 17 raid on the rail yard.)
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>>There is a fair bit of archaeological evidence to indicate that beer predates bread.

That’s probably bad archaeology. Beer is storable and liquid, so it requires pottery. Bread was eaten as it was made, so all it needs is an oven. So, they find beer pots in dig sites.


6 posted on 08/06/2013 2:44:59 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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Bread baking can also be determined from fires, mixing pottery, etc...

I'm still open as to which pre-dated, but the beer theory crowd has some good evidence. It's likely that they happened very close together.

Either way, it's a darn good thing that beer was invented. ;)

/johnny

7 posted on 08/06/2013 2:50:58 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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I can store beer in an animal’s bladder or a bag made of skin or a woven fiber bag coated in pitch or the skull of my enemy.


8 posted on 08/06/2013 2:53:43 PM PDT by KingLudd
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>>I suspect (and this theory has been propounded by many others) that the only reason people abandoned foraging and took up farming, was to guarantee a supply of beer.<<

Mankind was made up of college sophomores during the Dark Ages?


9 posted on 08/06/2013 2:55:34 PM PDT by freedumb2003 ("Task" is a noun. "Ask" is a verb. "Disconnect" is a noun. "Data" is a plural-not collective-noun.)
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or the skull of my enemy.

I like that...

/johnny

10 posted on 08/06/2013 3:00:02 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: KingLudd

“I can store beer in an animal’s bladder or a bag made of skin or a woven fiber bag coated in pitch or the skull of my enemy.”

Hell’s Angel? That sure sounds like a Canadian biker bar!

;^)


11 posted on 08/06/2013 3:13:06 PM PDT by headsonpikes (Mass murder and cannibalism are the twin sacraments of socialism - "Who-whom?"-Lenin)
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Thank you for this, Renfield. ‘Tis much appreciated.


12 posted on 08/06/2013 3:26:29 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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Guffaw!!! They roamed in their RV from one Trader Joes to another throughout the Libwest.


13 posted on 08/06/2013 3:31:26 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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Tons of people have been doing this for years. They are called work campers - full time RVers with part time jobs in and around RV sites. This “blog” is Portlandia run amok.


14 posted on 08/06/2013 3:51:16 PM PDT by Donkey Odious ( Adapt, improvise, and overcome - now a motto for us all.)
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So now we know where to observe the “free-range sanctimonious a-hole” in their native habitat.


15 posted on 08/06/2013 4:01:19 PM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: KingLudd

>>I can store beer in an animal’s bladder or a bag made of skin or a woven fiber bag coated in pitch or the skull of my enemy.

You can store beer in just about anything. But, the ancients used pottery.


16 posted on 08/06/2013 4:02:48 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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>>I’m still open as to which pre-dated, but the beer theory crowd has some good evidence. It’s likely that they happened very close together.

The beer that you love came long after bread. The “beer” of ancient man had a very thick gravy-like texture and low alcohol content and it may have predated bread. The possible history could have been that they ate grain, but their bad teeth made that difficult as they aged, so they ground it up some and added water to soften it. Someone left a bowl out for a couple days and it fermented so they started soaking their grain and allowing the sugars to form from fermentation because it added taste. Eventually, someone wanted some dry grain paste, so he heated it to get the water out and you have flatbread.


17 posted on 08/06/2013 4:10:20 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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I'm good with the original beer if you are buying.... I like gravy. ;)

/johnny

18 posted on 08/06/2013 4:12:59 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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>>I’m good with the original beer if you are buying.... I like gravy. ;)

I saw some once. It looks disgusting. But, if you’re hungry, I bet it looks yummy!!


19 posted on 08/06/2013 4:20:35 PM PDT by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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“You can store beer in just about anything. But, the ancients used pottery.”

Ancient’s fermented liquid long before they invented pottery and they used animal’s bladders and bags made of skin and gourds and woven fiber bags coated in pitch. You could even use a coconut shell (like on Gilligan’s Island). The skull comment was sarcasm. Most of human history predates the development of agriculture...and pottery.


20 posted on 08/07/2013 2:26:46 PM PDT by KingLudd
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