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August 13, 2013 | Vanity

Posted on 08/13/2013 12:03:08 PM PDT by topher

There are various things out there. But I could not find something to set this up.

VoIP (Voice over IP) has been around for a long time.

I would not mind just using headphones and a microphone to make the phone call.

There is a website IPKall.com that will give you a Washington state telephone number.

But I am not sure how you set up the VoIP part. I tried to see if there were any other threads on this.

I guess using SKYPE is one way to do this, but not to call someone else who has a real telephone...


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KEYWORDS: ipkallcom; magicjac; magicjack; pctelephone; skype; voip
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I guess there is the problem of 911 calls from this service (I imagine they would be disallowed).
1 posted on 08/13/2013 12:03:08 PM PDT by topher
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To: topher

Basically you need a SIP provider and a SIP client. I can do all of this out of the box using Google for both. And it’s free with Google. Most providers you’d have to pay.


2 posted on 08/13/2013 12:05:37 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: topher

Check out C3

http://www.downloadc3.com/

I used it heavily when I was working in building where I got little to no cell signal. While it is pushed mainly for gamers, you can use it to make domestic calls and it’s free.


3 posted on 08/13/2013 12:13:41 PM PDT by drunknsage
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To: topher

>> I guess using SKYPE is one way to do this, but not to call someone else who has a real telephone...

Skype will do this (it’s called SkypeOut), but it costs extra; I forget how much.

You can also get a “SkypeIn” number; that’s $60/year.

It works pretty well if you have good bandwidth.

That’s apart from the question of whether all of your calls are then stored on some gubmint server. :-)


4 posted on 08/13/2013 12:14:30 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: topher

Actually, you can use Skype to make calls to people with traditional phone systems. I used it when it was called a “SkypeOut Number”, don’t know what it’s called today. You can use “credit” or buy a plan for about $3/mo. When I used it, it worked very well.


5 posted on 08/13/2013 12:14:52 PM PDT by MisterEd37 (TSA: You don't get on until we get off!)
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To: Nervous Tick

Is there a free “open source” way to do this yet?


6 posted on 08/13/2013 12:15:02 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: topher
I use Magicjac. It cost me 35 dollars originally and the first year was `9 dollars(prices have gone up slightly since). You just plug the jack into a usb slot and it loads and sets up the software. Then you just plug your phone into the jack. 911 is still 911.
7 posted on 08/13/2013 12:15:13 PM PDT by amnestynone (Lindsey Graham is feckless, duplicitous, treacherous, double dealing backstabbing Corksucker.)
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To: drunknsage

I just asked about that. Now I look stupid. Answer first, then question.


8 posted on 08/13/2013 12:15:39 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: topher; Nervous Tick

I just remembered how much SkypeOut costs: like 2 cents a minute anywhere in the US. Overseas calls are a little more but still cheap. You can set up a CC account and they reload your account when it gets down to a couple dollars.

I don’t think there is any one-time fee but it’s been so long since I signed up that it might have changed.


9 posted on 08/13/2013 12:17:41 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: amnestynone
I have seen 'Magicjac' by, as I recall, the person who posted about IPKall.com (service to allocate a number). The person had done a YouTube on IpKall.com

Some of this changes over time...

I have do more research...

10 posted on 08/13/2013 12:19:14 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: topher

Easiest solution is MagicJack - it now plugs directly into your router, you don’t have to worry about keeping a computer on, price is about $12 a year, with $35 for the first year (including hardware.) You can find it at OfficeDepot, etc. Great use of a coupon if you’ve got one for one of the office stores.

We just hooked ours up to a 3 handset base station. Works like a champ.


11 posted on 08/13/2013 12:20:35 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: topher

I’m using MagicJack as a business line. I have my business phone landline hooked up to it. Been using it about 3 years. You can’t use it to dial into conference calls, since you can’t dial toll free withit.

All in all, it is great for dialing out, and not so hot for folks dialing in. I bought five years at a flat rate of $64 and I can call everywhere with it in the US. You can buy time for foreign countries fairly inexpensively.

Skype’s OK, but you have to trade handles before you can use it. I use it for conferencing with our own offices. You can now share desktops with it. Excellent service, you can use it internationally, and it costs nothing.

Between MJ and Skype, my office works pretty well I guess. I won’t renew MJ to pursue something cleaner.


12 posted on 08/13/2013 12:22:45 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: topher

I’m still waiting for the telepathic phone where you can carry on a conversation completely silently.


13 posted on 08/13/2013 12:23:08 PM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: GeronL

C3 is free but it does require you to register. It really hasn’t caught on outside of the gaming community. It allows you to create a chat room and it assigns it a phone number that people can call it to so you can have people on their computers and folks on their phones in the same session together.

You dont look stupid, no worries. It’s easy to miss things when people start commenting.


14 posted on 08/13/2013 12:26:55 PM PDT by drunknsage
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To: GeronL
Is there a free “open source” way to do this yet?

For those with no qualms about using GMail...you get a free Google Voice number or at least call-out abilities with every GMail account.

Set these up several years ago before Google acquired whoever this service was before and have had problem-free phone lines and voice mail with email notice since 2007 or so.

If you choose to not "register" a free line associated with a GMail account (in order to select a permanent number anywhere you want to...local or across the country) you can still call outbound for free (domestically) and the number shows as a generic Google Voice number.

It is perfect for me as I never have to leave the screens when I need to be here in order to make a call with a Dollar Store (HONEST!) headset that has been problem free.

15 posted on 08/13/2013 12:28:09 PM PDT by Prov1322 (Enjoy my wife's incredible artwork at www.watercolorARTwork.com! (This space no longer for rent))
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To: drunknsage

Sounds like it would work pretty good if you set up a private room where only the people you know can use it.
Can you call out from it?


16 posted on 08/13/2013 12:29:53 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: Prov1322

cool


17 posted on 08/13/2013 12:32:15 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: All

another vote here for magicjack, it’s so cheap in comparison to regular land-lines.

I believe they do make magicjack2 now, it can plug directly into your router or switch, without a pc.


18 posted on 08/13/2013 12:32:30 PM PDT by VAFreedom (maybe i should take a nap before work)
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To: RinaseaofDs; All
I found one (MagicJack in new package) for $33 and ordered it...

Thanks everyone for the help...

19 posted on 08/13/2013 12:40:41 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: VAFreedom
That is what I saw at the MagicJack website -- no computer needed...

I found one and ordered one for under $40 (with shipping included).

20 posted on 08/13/2013 12:42:25 PM PDT by topher (Traditional values -- especially family values -- which have been proven over time.)
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To: Prov1322
For those with no qualms about using GMail...you get a free Google Voice number or at least call-out abilities with every GMail account.

I'll second this, I have been using that for a year, infrequently. Works well and its free. Of course, there are all the usual caveats about Google, so I wouldn't use it for sensitive type stuff.

21 posted on 08/13/2013 12:44:00 PM PDT by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: topher

Google Voice has a completely free service for US and Canada and they will let you choose a phone number. Their international rates are very good.

But....Google, Skype and others have that problem whereby they allow others to monitor and record your phone calls. I don’t like that and look forward to a development where the eavesdroppers are shut down.


22 posted on 08/13/2013 12:48:17 PM PDT by Hostage (Be Breitbart!)
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To: GeronL

"...if stupid cost money we'd all be broke"

23 posted on 08/13/2013 12:48:19 PM PDT by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: topher

You use a phone? For what?


24 posted on 08/13/2013 12:49:22 PM PDT by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: topher

Somebody please answer this. A year or so ago, I was able to make a skype/computer to skype/computer call without involving any land line number. I would sit here at my computer and click on a call button and was able to make a free call to my daughter in Paris, France. Now, when I go on Skype, the only thing I find is a video to video option. I only want voice to voice. Has skype removed this or am I not doing something right?I just want to talk without video. Oh, and BTW, this was all done at no charge.


25 posted on 08/13/2013 12:50:44 PM PDT by navyblue (<u>)
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To: topher

I use Google talk. I’ve used it for years, it well, other than paying $10 (I think) to get a Google number, it’s free.

I recently got a second account and got rid of my land line. This time I wanted to use my old number and I had to first transfer the number to a cell phone and from the cell phone to Google. That was a pain, but I wanted to keep my old land line number and that’s the only way I could do it. So I bought a track phone for $20 which was an extra expense.


26 posted on 08/13/2013 12:50:47 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: topher

Ooma is awesome.

http://www.ooma.com/


27 posted on 08/13/2013 12:59:38 PM PDT by yuleeyahoo (Liberty is not collective, it is personal. All liberty is individual liberty. - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: VAFreedom

There used to be a free service called Net 2 Phone.
But countries that taxed the beejesus out of telephone service freaked out and I believe forced them to shut down.


28 posted on 08/13/2013 1:01:16 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: topher

I use Google talk. I’ve used it for years, it well, other than paying $10 (I think) to get a Google number, it’s free.

I recently got a second account and got rid of my land line. This time I wanted to use my old number and I had to first transfer the number to a cell phone and from the cell phone to Google. That was a pain, but I wanted to keep my old land line number and that’s the only way I could do it. So I bought a track phone for $20 which was an extra expense.


29 posted on 08/13/2013 1:02:33 PM PDT by babygene ( .)
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To: GeronL; Nervous Tick; topher

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_VoIP_software

Ekiga is what came with RedHat/CentOS Linux.

http://wiki.ekiga.org/index.php/Manual


30 posted on 08/13/2013 1:03:52 PM PDT by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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To: PieterCasparzen

Well, I have Ubuntu, PC Linux, Knoppix and Puppy Linux with me right now. LoL.

Another Live CD coming?


31 posted on 08/13/2013 1:07:14 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: topher

There are a bunch of options here:

http://www.callfromcomputer.com


32 posted on 08/13/2013 1:23:42 PM PDT by Bon mots
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To: topher

Obihai is good.


33 posted on 08/13/2013 1:24:37 PM PDT by Maurice Tift (Never wear anything that panics the cat. -- P.J. O'Rourke)
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To: topher
Obi-Hai 100 w/ Google Voice for over a year now and it is great... and only cost me $37 on New Egg. I use ANY phone I want. Currently have a Uniden water resistant portable.

I have not paid even 1 cent for any phone call since I got it a year ago. Calls are clearer than my Fios land line ever was.

Look up Obi 100 on amazon and check out all the great user comments/reviews. You do not need to have a computer running, as long as you have a router and and internet connection.
34 posted on 08/13/2013 1:26:36 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: topher

I 2nd the magic jack plus. Have had it for about 2 yrs now. Have saved aboyt $1400 after dropping ATT landline. Works great both ways. You do have to dial the area code on all numbers though.


35 posted on 08/13/2013 1:27:34 PM PDT by sheana
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To: JSteff
O and I had a magic jack and this Obi puts that top sleep. My Magic Jack was very spotty and other cut out on long calls. The Obi so far has been near perfect.
36 posted on 08/13/2013 1:31:11 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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To: JSteff
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37 posted on 08/13/2013 1:32:28 PM PDT by JSteff (It was ALL about SCOTUS... We are DOOMED for several generations. . Who cares? The Dems care!)
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38 posted on 08/13/2013 1:35:50 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: RinaseaofDs
and not so hot for folks dialing in ....Hey RinaseaofDs...whats the story about incoming calls...thats what I would want VOIP for ????
39 posted on 08/13/2013 2:16:42 PM PDT by virgil283 (When the sun spins, the cross appears, and the skies burn red)
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To: topher

Okay. I’ve been in telecom 30 years.

Get Magic Jack. It’s a great service and has a predictable fixed cost(19.95)

911 is not a problem and it is a problem.

When you sign up for service they will ask for your physical address. This for two reasons; they need to know where to send any written correspondence(they don’t mail you a bill. Everything is done online) but the really important reason is so they can assign a PSAP for number. This will enable emergency services to come to your aid.

Now, you can have a billing address seperate from your physical address.

Very important!!!!!!! If you take your magic jack or similar device to some ither location and call 911 they will not know you are in Manhattan and they will show up to your home in Boine-Boine, Idaho.

If you use Voip from the location listed in your PSAP agreement they will show up and help you.

The point is, if you are somewhere else and need 911 use a local phone. It also has a PSAP and the emergency services will show up if you are unable to convey relevant information due to being incapacitated.

Magic Jack and similar services can be installed via some sort of dongle or simple software.

You can use their version of a phone that will display on your screen.

If you have further questions, ping me.


40 posted on 08/13/2013 2:21:17 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: amnestynone

I used MagicJack on my XP computer. Every time they would upgrade their software, it would mess up MJ and it could not stay loaded or would fail to load when I started the computer.

When I went to Win7, I have the same problem. MJ won’t stay loaded or won’t load without several tries.

It has become more hassle than it is worth.

I haven’t tried the MJPlus that plugs into the router. I don’t want to waste any more money with MJ & Company.

==

In a recent related thread, someone mentioned ObiHai. It plugs into the router. As I understand it, there is a one-time charge for the connection box only and no monthly charges. It accesses through Google Voice.

http://obihai.com/

==


41 posted on 08/13/2013 2:41:33 PM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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To: amnestynone

MagicJack is too limited. You need at least ‘DozeXP and I run primarily linux boxen. For the times I need to run a win proggie, currently because I am converting older progs to run on Linux, I NEVER allow a machine running ‘Doze to connect to the internet. Far too easy to corrupt that OS.


42 posted on 08/13/2013 2:57:31 PM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! <- In muzlim world are only fast goats & slow boys. Slow goats all dead. ->)
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To: topher

? Has there been a recent change? The last adverse-tisement received in the mail from them still says in the fine print at the bottom that you need at least XP but it will work just fine with Ws7.


43 posted on 08/13/2013 3:03:37 PM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! <- In muzlim world are only fast goats & slow boys. Slow goats all dead. ->)
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To: GeronL

Mepis Linux. Love it. Simple, robust, and astoundingly easy for even a newbie to set up. Although I am playing with UberStudent Linux as well, mostly for the pre-configured Kindle app already comfortably running on it.


44 posted on 08/13/2013 3:06:48 PM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! <- In muzlim world are only fast goats & slow boys. Slow goats all dead. ->)
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To: virgil283

I have a multiline phone in my office - 1 is for home phone, 1 for the business line.

To answer a call, you have to press ACCEPT on the MagicJack console, and then quickly press the business line (line 3 at my house) to pick up the call. Then there is a small delay, but enough to make it sound weird to the caller.

Not enough weird to make a difference, but weird.

It’s ungainly.

I looked at Ooma too - expensive at triple MJ prices, and then you have to add their LINX thing so that you can use multiple home extensions (should you want it to replace, say, Comcast).

Still, with the equipment cost, Ooma is cheaper than Comcast or Verizon Home.

Ooma business charges a monthly fee of $20. Don’t see the reason for it since the technology is identical and the service is in the logic they sold you in the box.

I’d be looking for something better than MJ, but less expensive and obtrusive than Ooma. Not sure what else is out there.


45 posted on 08/13/2013 3:08:42 PM PDT by RinaseaofDs
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To: Utilizer

There is a Linux Kindle App?


46 posted on 08/13/2013 3:09:32 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: sheana

Love to find an option like that for this end. ATT is the provider here, and insist that you must have a standard package landline for their HS DSL to work and refuse to unbundle them. Even though I, as an Engineer can tell them exactly how to set it up, and no, DSL does not require standard PPP landline protocols to operate just the more robust HSL module swapped in for the lowspeed cheapie standard board at the central hub, they insist that I can not have just the DSL all by itself, otherwise it “just doesn’t work”. Totally false, but they are the only provider so what can you do?


47 posted on 08/13/2013 3:13:46 PM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! <- In muzlim world are only fast goats & slow boys. Slow goats all dead. ->)
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To: Utilizer

I plan to get a better machine soon, maybe a desktop with a lot of RAM and a graphics accelerator. I’ll boot from disc Linux DVD’s like SuperLinux for games and Ubuntu Studio for audio-video creation.

Since I am going to live in freaktown, Texas I might as well find some weirdo’s who like similar things (minus politics).

I plan to form a club of “Running Man” fans so we can make our own “episodes” and put them on Youtube. That should be fun. Might not be able to do it often though.

I do want to locate whatever conservatives like me there are in freaktown (Armpit of Texas) and form a Freedom Club or something.


48 posted on 08/13/2013 3:15:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: JSteff

I tried Magic Jack a couple of years ago and had a whole lot of problems with it so went back to a land line for my business. Then in January I switched to Vonage. I make a lot of long distance calls. Kept my old number, performs perfectly thus far, whole lot less expensive than AT&T. One of the things I like about it is that I get an email whenever anyone leaves a message. The voice to email technology isn’t all that whippy with words but the number translation is great.

Since we’re on the phone all day long on business calls, at least I get all the messages now and no one gets a busy signal. Works great for us.


49 posted on 08/13/2013 3:18:20 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: GeronL

Too right, although honestly it is Kindle-for-the-PC running under wine, I believe. Uberstudent offered a downloadable live CD with Kindle bundled and Google Chrome. Played with it, installed it, removed Chrome and installed Opera and Firefox and the Kindle app is still chugging along as I type.


50 posted on 08/13/2013 3:19:00 PM PDT by Utilizer (Ba-con Ah'hkkba'aar! <- In muzlim world are only fast goats & slow boys. Slow goats all dead. ->)
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