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Question: Weren't the VAST majority of Navy shooting victims WHITE?
9/18/13 | SFF

Posted on 09/18/2013 4:20:23 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

Earlier this morning I saw a gun-control propaganda report masquerading as news....the Obama worshiper, masquerading as a journalist, talked about the victims of the murderous liberal Aaron Alexis.

I noticed that MOST of the victims were white.

Could we have some racism here? I mean, this black man shot UNARMED white people....


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: aaronalexis; guns; race
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Just wondering.
1 posted on 09/18/2013 4:20:23 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sure seems like many of the unharmed witnesses were black. I haven’t seen pics of the victims, just lists of names.


2 posted on 09/18/2013 4:22:59 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I asked the same question of a few friends in the media when the victims’ list was first released. It sounds like others are asking the same question.


3 posted on 09/18/2013 4:25:16 AM PDT by RavenATB
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To: SoFloFreeper

He did get one brother in the back. Wouldn’t you know nbc panned in on it.


4 posted on 09/18/2013 4:25:55 AM PDT by Recompennation (Constitutional protection for all not just selectively for Democrats.)
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To: Travis McGee

Who knows what goes through the minds of insane people?

The point being that insanity —not guns is the problem.

I believe he picked targets of opportunity not racial, but you may have a point, but point or not there isn’t a gun law these gun nut insane POS calling themselves politicians can pass that will stop their fellow insane from killing.


5 posted on 09/18/2013 4:28:16 AM PDT by Venturer ( cowardice posturing as tolerance =political correctness)
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To: Venturer

Oh, I agree. Clearly insane, and he used the most popular and typical shotgun in modern firearms history, the Remington 870. Can’t ban them without banning 90% of long guns.


6 posted on 09/18/2013 4:30:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: SoFloFreeper

All saltines so far.

7 posted on 09/18/2013 4:30:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

He was known for having a racial obsession and feeling that he was being “dissed” and persecuted. Of course, his true problem was that he was crazy, but crazy people often look for some seemingly rational external motive to blame for their behavior and thereby justify it.


8 posted on 09/18/2013 4:31:20 AM PDT by livius
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To: Venturer

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/buster/aaron-alexis-rhode-island-police-report-675432

The guy was asking for help ... sounds like paranoid schizophrenia. He thought his stalkers were black.
No law against being nuts in this country until after you murder people.

I don’t think we know enough yet about who got shot and where and why to assign a racial motive. I was thinking about whoever pulled the fire alarm and sent all those people out into the hallway- where some were apparently shot


9 posted on 09/18/2013 4:32:33 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Did Obama’s divisive racial Rhetoric over Travon Martin motivate the Aaron Alexis shooting?(9/17/2013 )

10 posted on 09/18/2013 4:33:25 AM PDT by sickoflibs (To GOP : Any path to US Citizenship IS putting them ahead in line. Stop lying about your position.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Undocumented Moslem Tyrant’s pro-Jihad pro-terrorist racist AG:
On the morrow, anyone daring to mention 'racism' in this
will be audited out of their home,
and then we have have five crackers beheaded and raped -
two cracker Jews and three cracker Christians."

11 posted on 09/18/2013 4:36:29 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: SoFloFreeper

One was black, one was Asian, though labelled as “Irish,” by the UK media (such as from the Indian Subcontinent or whereabouts) - that I know of. Don’t know what the makeup of the place was. I know there seem to be a disproportionate percentage of blacks in government, per se.


12 posted on 09/18/2013 4:38:17 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: central_va
Here's an updated pic on CNN:


13 posted on 09/18/2013 4:38:37 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Recompennation

Yeah, this has crossed my mind too. Admittedly, I’m not sure I’ve seen pic’s of all twelve victims but so far I’ve seen only one black victim. Being that he was shot in the back will attempting to escape its possible Alexis may not have noted that this guy was black. At any rate, this massacre my be a candidate to be a hate crime. Does anyone believe that Holder will do this? Not.....


14 posted on 09/18/2013 4:39:14 AM PDT by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: SoFloFreeper

At least one witness said he appeared to be specifically targeting people. One thing I noticed was the average age of the dead was 55.83 years.


15 posted on 09/18/2013 4:40:12 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
He was shooting old white folks, COINCIDENTALLY, and one black guy was a collateral-damage casualty.

NO ONE will bring it up, unless forced to, that this was a HATE Crime (can you imagine the outcry if the shooter was white, and ALL but one of the victims were Black?)...think about it.

16 posted on 09/18/2013 4:45:26 AM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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To: Venturer
The point being that insanity —not guns is the problem.

That's too easy.

Sane, non-criminal person + gun = no problem.

Insane, murderous person without gun (but with, perhaps, a hammer) = minor problem.

Insane, murderous person with gun = big problem.

17 posted on 09/18/2013 4:47:53 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: SoFloFreeper

how did this end? was he shot by someone else?

If so this is yeat ANOTHER example of a bad guy with a gun being stopped by GOOD GUY with a gun

If you pass stricter gun control laws only the good guys will have less guns


18 posted on 09/18/2013 4:54:10 AM PDT by Mr. K (Lies, Damned Lies, Statistics, and then Democrat Talking Points.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Insane, murderous person with gun = big problem.

The problem lies with the failure of screening to 1) deny him a security clearance and 2) deny him a gun purchase.

Entities (companies and people) are going to get sued over this and they deserve it. This guy left a trail of red flags a mile long.

19 posted on 09/18/2013 4:55:16 AM PDT by randita
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To: randita

As with HASAN, there will be NO ATTEMPT to uncover
his protectors, handlers, and DNC controllers.
NONE.

This is the TIP of the iceberg.


20 posted on 09/18/2013 5:00:17 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: traditional1

He was targeting older white people, just as he’d been taught.
The brother was collateral damage.
The Irish settler was an error in reporting.
The unfortunate victim apparently owned an Irish setter dog and during an interview , one of his neighbors noted that and it was mistakenly reported that the victim was an Irish settler.


21 posted on 09/18/2013 5:01:25 AM PDT by Palio di Siena (Even the liberal media can't keep lipstick on this pig.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

You could only prove that case if the shooter intentionally failed to fire on black personnel. Black witnesses would need to step forward.


22 posted on 09/18/2013 5:03:35 AM PDT by Hotlanta Mike ("Governing a great nation is like cooking a small fish - too much handling will spoil it." Lao Tzu)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Repeating, for those who came in late: in contemporary America, it’s only racism if a White hassles/injures/kills a Black or other ethnic - NOT vice versa.


23 posted on 09/18/2013 5:07:29 AM PDT by Jack Hammer (American)
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To: SoFloFreeper
I have to disagree with your thesis.
From what I have heard and read, I am starting to believe that:
Aaron Alexis was a mentally ill man who should have been in a mental hospital. From what Charles Krauthamer said on Monday, Alexis should have been put in a mental hospital after his episode in Rhode Island last month. This man was a walking time bomb and our political correct, affirmative action society allowed him to not only to walk among us, but gave him a security clearance to get on a military base in a security sensitive job. Political Correctness also allowed him to pass a FBI background check to purchase a shotgun. Affirmative Action and fear of the civil rights grievance industry allowed all of his earlier run ins with the law and his mental health history to be hidden.
I am starting to believe that Aaron Alexis is the 16th victim here. A victim of Liberal policies in acted over the past 50 years.
24 posted on 09/18/2013 5:11:44 AM PDT by Tupelo (There are no Republicans or Democrats in Washington. Just Millionaires protecting their turf.)
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To: Sherman Logan
Insane, murderous person without gun (but with, perhaps, a hammer) = minor problem.

More accurately, perhaps, I should have said, "Big problem for a single person, minor problem for a large group."

25 posted on 09/18/2013 5:17:10 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Mark Steyn: "In the Middle East, the enemy of our enemy is also our enemy.")
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To: silverleaf
I don’t think we know enough yet about who got shot and where and why to assign a racial motive.

If Jesse and Al are quiet, it's racial.

26 posted on 09/18/2013 5:25:25 AM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Tupelo
I am starting to believe that Aaron Alexis is the 16th victim here. A victim of Liberal policies in acted over the past 50 years.

That's kind of how I see it with a good many democrat voters and the GOP would be well advised to return to their roots on this sort of thing.
27 posted on 09/18/2013 5:29:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Travis McGee

I remember early on there were reports ftom potential victims that he looked at them, said nothing and aimed too high missing them. Wanna bet they were holders folks!

I believe he was using a shotgun loaded with 8 shells which he killed the first 8 and switched to a handgun.

He was a manipulative “son of bozo” who was a leech off the government and his supposed friends. I also believe he was not buddist but had ideas of jihadism. He was training with the video games!


28 posted on 09/18/2013 5:37:51 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: SoFloFreeper

We should not be like the left in assigning racial motives to events, unless they are clearly proven (like “hit the first white person I see”, for instance).


29 posted on 09/18/2013 5:40:12 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: carriage_hill

The black guy was collateral damage, he was aiming at whites. Plenty of obamas people work at the yard. Notice they were older.


30 posted on 09/18/2013 5:40:32 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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To: traditional1

That depends heavily on the available targets’ demographics.

He may indeed have targeted people by race/age, but that really can’t be proven.

Now, if the available targets were 50/50, and 11/12 of them were of one demographic of race/age - then you probably could make a case.


31 posted on 09/18/2013 5:42:08 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SoFloFreeper
More vengeance for Trayvon.

Pray for America to Wake Up

32 posted on 09/18/2013 5:47:24 AM PDT by bray (Coming soon: The Republic of Texas 2022)
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To: seeker41

There’s 2 more pics to be released, but I suspect you’re right.


33 posted on 09/18/2013 6:06:17 AM PDT by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: snoringbear

He’s dead, so yeah, Holder probably won’t prosecute him for anything.


34 posted on 09/18/2013 6:12:01 AM PDT by Fuzz
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To: showme_the_Glory; silverleaf; SoFloFreeper

If Jesse and Al are quiet, it's racial.

35 posted on 09/18/2013 6:29:16 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: Fuzz
“He’s dead, so yeah, Holder probably won’t prosecute him for anything.”

This is very true. However, dead man Aaron Alexis will still be voting for Donkeys in DC for the next 150 years.

36 posted on 09/18/2013 6:29:39 AM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Fuzz
He’s dead, so yeah, Holder probably won’t prosecute him for anything.

But he'll still vote...

37 posted on 09/18/2013 6:29:45 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Opinions are like orgasms: only mine count, and I couldn't care less if you have one...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

More white victims of black violence.

Damn, Eric Holder was right, we do need a discussion about race .... and crime.


38 posted on 09/18/2013 6:39:02 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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To: SoFloFreeper

One thing that is certain. The press would never report it as such.


39 posted on 09/18/2013 6:47:25 AM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: SoFloFreeper

He was schizophrenic, not racially motivated. The left would invoke race into this if a mentally ill white person shot several blacks during a mass shooting.

I won’t play the race card on this one. We’ve hundreds of real examples of black on white violence....


40 posted on 09/18/2013 6:55:54 AM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: freebilly

He definitely had a racial chip on his shoulder, according to reports.


41 posted on 09/18/2013 6:59:39 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: MrB
He definitely had a racial chip on his shoulder, according to reports

I think the voices in his head urging him to kill administrators at the Naval Yard trumped that "racial chip" on this shoulder....

42 posted on 09/18/2013 7:05:36 AM PDT by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Could we have some racism here? I mean, this black man shot UNARMED white people....

I suspect one person was hit by accident.

43 posted on 09/18/2013 7:25:02 AM PDT by Stentor ("Liberalism seeks out the eccentric to justify control over the normal." nathanbedford)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well considering it was 800 or so on a WORKDAY and the guy was (supposedly) shooting into a crowd of WORKING PEOPLE with most needing some sort of Security Clearance etc etc etc.

Of course we still have to give ‘them’ time to sort this out and figure if it was 1 or 2 or 3 or 40(s/) shooters and whether we should blame the Sequester, or someone didn’t want the Nats to play ball Mon Evening.
I still have trouble with believing the guy walked into a Gun Store/range in the last couple of days as a DC or TX resident and walked out the same day with a purchase.

I realize my last name is ‘fairly’ common but even as a long time CCP holder, and the purchaser of several pistols, I have yet been able to stand at the counter and be able to ‘wait’ for clearance. Always have had to - at the very least - wait a day or so.
I have absolutely NO record - with exception of traffic - so maybe that is why it ‘takes longer’????

Maybe it is ‘easier’ to buy a shotgun rather than a pistol.


44 posted on 09/18/2013 7:37:22 AM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Egoist:A person of low taste, more interested in himself than me. (Ambrose Bierce))
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To: carriage_hill

Pick out the Obama supporter in that line up.


45 posted on 09/18/2013 7:37:34 AM PDT by Mikey_1962 (Obama: The Affirmative Action President.)
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To: Tupelo
I tend to agree with you based on what is coming out so far
The guy called police last month to report voices in his head and said he was being stalked by 3 black people. and they blew it off

Supposedly he sought treatment from the VA
He knew he was sick, he apparently aggrandized his role in to 9-11 as an excuse, but it may have been a trigger when he was much younger. Schizophrenia often starts in the 20’s
He was well enough to be able to enlist in the Navy and then get work as a contractor, both where PC affirmative action excused a lot of his malfunctions in the interest of diversity hiring

He was "angry" but probably really didn't know or rationalize at who or what

His prior shootings were not “accidents” but signs his illness was growing and it consumed him

He must have been a highly intelligent guy to have lasted so long and then pulled this off

Mental illness especially untreated is a bad sad destroyer

46 posted on 09/18/2013 7:42:30 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: seeker41

the women I saw who reported he did this to her was white


47 posted on 09/18/2013 7:43:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: Stentor

the dead black man was shot in the back while trying to get away and standing at an elevator pushing the button according to a man who was with him, It was intentional

note to self: in hallway shootings, take the stairs


48 posted on 09/18/2013 7:45:27 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: seeker41

see above

it was intentional

the man had on his contractor jumpsuit, maybe same company as shooter


49 posted on 09/18/2013 7:46:31 AM PDT by silverleaf (Going to war without the French is like going hunting without an accordion.)
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To: silverleaf

Bump


50 posted on 09/18/2013 9:27:19 AM PDT by seeker41 (take your country back by whatever means necessary)
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