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Free Speech by appointment only.

And only if you stand anywhere... in this general area, right in here.

Anywhere, below the stereo, and on this side of the Bicentennial glasses.

Anywhere between the ashtray, and the thimbles.

Anywhere in this three inches.

Right in here, this area, that includes the area beside the Chiclets, but nowhere near the erasers.

1 posted on 09/19/2013 3:20:48 PM PDT by digger48
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Forty years ago the universities were the hotspots of the so-called ‘Free Speech’ movement and now the same people who fought for Free Speech are now censoring everyone they disagree with.

Why are they doing this on the taxpayer’s dime?


2 posted on 09/19/2013 3:22:47 PM PDT by MeganC (A gun is like a parachute. If you need one, and don't have one, you'll never need one again.)
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Anywhere, below the stereo, and on this side of the Bicentennial glasses. "Anywhere between the ashtray, and the thimbles. Anywhere in this three inches. Right in here, this area, that includes the area beside the Chiclets, but nowhere near the erasers."

One of the best movies ever scripted!

3 posted on 09/19/2013 3:23:07 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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Sadly, incidents like this from academia no longer can be viewed with incredulity.
So much of America's "higher" education is a joke, but a very expensive joke.

4 posted on 09/19/2013 3:26:28 PM PDT by Amagi (God Save the Republic.)
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The government cannot establish a national church. This now interpreted far too broadly -- "You cannot pray in public [unless you are a Muslim].

The government cannot restrict your right to speech. Many people now get upset when non-government bodies restrict speech. The property owner (such as a junior college) tries to restrict speech, and people start screaming.

I may not like all the end results, but I try to remember which parts of the Constitution limit the government, and which parts allow citizens to make their own choices. My religion is my choice (all the time); my speech is my speech (unless the owner of the property wants me to shut up).

7 posted on 09/19/2013 3:32:16 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (21st century. I'm not a fan.)
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So they are going to make little Hyde Parks everywhere?


9 posted on 09/19/2013 3:33:23 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: digger48; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; All; everyone

Walter Williams had a really good column in the newspaper yesterday. He listed many of the recent incidents at various colleges including the one of William Penn at Michigan State that was videoed by one student.

Williams suggested that students should record professorial propaganda and give it widespread distribution over the internet.

Vladimir Lenin said;
“Give me four years to teach the children, and the seed I have sown will never be uprooted”

That’s the goal of the leftist teaching agenda.....


13 posted on 09/19/2013 3:41:43 PM PDT by potlatch
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I’d have told them to F off and arrest me then SUE THE CRAP out of them. Call Landmark Legal and let Mark Levin have at them.


14 posted on 09/19/2013 3:42:16 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it Punks?)
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The college was possibly in error.

HOWEVER ...

While I'm giving Mr. Van Tuinen the benefit of the doubt in this case, there is a question if both he and the Fx News person who wrote the article do not understand that the Founding States had never intended for our constitutionally protected rights to be absolute.

More specifically, as I have mentioned in related threads, Thomas Jefferson had noted that the Founding States had made the 10th Amendment in part to clarify that the Founding States had reserved government power to reasonably regulate our constitutionally protected freedoms to themselves, regardless that they had also made the 1st Amendment in part to prohibit such powers entirely to Congress.

"3. Resolved that it is true as a general principle and is also expressly declared by one of the amendments to the constitution that ‘the powers not delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively or to the people’: and that no power over the freedom of religion, freedom of speech, or freedom of the press being delegated to the US. by the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, all lawful powers respecting the same did of right remain, & were reserved, to the states or the people: that thus was manifested their determination to retain to themselves the right of judging how far the licentiousness of speech and of the press may be abridged without lessening their useful freedom, and how far those abuses which cannot be separated from their use should be tolerated rather than the use be destroyed; (emphasis added) …" --Thomas Jefferson, Kentucky Resolutions, 1798.

Note that 10th Amendment protected state power to regulate things like free speech is now limited by the 14th Amendment.

So what we may seeing in Mr. Van Tuinen's case is a possible violation of zoning code on Mr. Van Tuinen's part, or local codes that are either too strict or are being interpreted too strictly by law enforcement personnel.

Again, when a college-indoctrinated reporter is not familiar with the nuances of our constitutionally protected freedoms then we can essentially expect an incomplete report which makes it harder to judge the situation.

22 posted on 09/19/2013 4:02:49 PM PDT by Amendment10
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If he had been wearing a Keffiyeh or Burkha they wouldn’t have even bothered him...


28 posted on 09/19/2013 4:53:01 PM PDT by logi_cal869
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30 posted on 09/19/2013 10:05:46 PM PDT by bamahead (Few men desire liberty; most men wish only for a just master. -- Sallust)
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