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Time for A Real Conservative Party
October 11, 2013 | Q-ManRN

Posted on 10/11/2013 11:17:59 AM PDT by Q-ManRN

It is time for a new conservative party. I am tired of the Republican Party because it represents keeping the status quo in D.C. The truth is the D.C. establishment consists of both republicans and democrats whose goal is to keep our money flowing into D.C. thereby making everyone beholden to the federal government. These politicians walk away mufti-millionaires with lifetime benefits at our expense while their constituents have less and less of their hard-earned money.

Every few years we talk about winning the next election and then taking back the government; however, that never happens because our so-called representatives really represent the D.C. establishment. The supposed republican vs. democrat battle is a circus sideshow that distracts us from the fact that the federal government gets bigger and more power with each passing year. A vote for most republicans is a vote for the D.C. establishment. If the republicans were serious about changing D.C., they would have done it before now.

I was hoping that Sarah Palin might start the Freedom Party that she had mentioned in a recent interview; nevertheless, I have heard nothing more about that possibility.


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To: Q-ManRN
how did the Republican Party replace the Whig Party?

Different times. Just like today, it is much, much harder to start your own car company (and be successful) than in 1910, or start your own computer company....

41 posted on 10/11/2013 3:08:48 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
Meanwhile, I’ll join Ted Cruz and Mike Lee and Sarah Palin and Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin in recapturing the Republican party.

Good luck with that.

PS: It will never happen.

42 posted on 10/11/2013 3:29:21 PM PDT by Rum Tum Tugger
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To: Q-ManRN

The whig party collapsed but today the events that led to that collapse are more difficult. I’d like to see the GOP replaced entirely. I still think there is much more potential to eject progressive GOP from power replacing them than creating a new party though I’m very supportive of the idea.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whig_Party_(United_States)


43 posted on 10/11/2013 3:32:42 PM PDT by Maelstorm (The political class love diversity and choice only when the its choices they approve of.)
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To: Kansas58; Bob Ireland

I want to win for the American people, not for the Republican Party which has betrayed conservatives repeatedly in the past few decades. Have the republicans repealed the federal income tax? Have they eliminated unconstitutional federal agencies? Deregulated? No. They have added regulations and added their own programs supporting the existing political system.

I do support truly conservative Republicans; however, I believe they would do better in a truly conservative party that supports their goals in return. The Republican Party and the democratic party are both committed to maintaining the Washington establishment as it is now.

As I said before, it is not a football game between the democrats and the republicans. More like a football practice where both sides are on the same team and therefore no one really loses. That team is committed to keeping power and money in Washington, D.C.

It is not about republican vs. democrat; it is about Washington, D.C. vs. the rest of the nation. Washington is in an economic boom while the rest of the nation is falling into economic ruin. In order to bring real change to Washington, we need a party that is not dependent on the current political system.

People said the same things that you are saying when the Republican Party challenged the then dominant Whig Party. Where is the Whig Party today? Replaced by the Republican Party because conservatives tired of the Whigs because they supported the political establishment.


44 posted on 10/11/2013 3:40:13 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

Whigs said if you vote in the Republicans there will be a bloody Civil War-—650,000 Americans died but the slavery question was solved—sort of. Maybe we need to bing back the Whigs! Or the Federalists? Or the Know Nothings Wait—we don’t need to resurect the Know Nothings—we have Democrats.


45 posted on 10/11/2013 4:10:34 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: Rum Tum Tugger

Get back to me when your tantrum does any good.......


46 posted on 10/11/2013 4:13:04 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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To: Rashputin

One problem is you ASSUME (and we all know what that means) that the real principled conservatives don’t work for the Party or have not previously worked for the Party.

That is BS.

The bigger problem is that the GOP has no answer for what their Primary (rigged to give us the product we receive) System gives us...wishy washy liberal (moderate my ass) Establishment anti conservatives.

McCain (who is blaming the GOP for the shutdown) has always relished stabbing conservatives, not in the back, but in your face on the Senate floor...Romney (who took away the primary issue of ObamaCare away since he agreed in principled) ...and now they will foist and rig it for JeB Bush.

The GOPe always blames conservatives for their own failures...well, we couldnt have gotten 2 more liberal establishment milquetoasts than that duo...how did that work out for the GOP?

More importantly, why should conservatives stay if the Primaries are not changed? We don’t need to stick around and see Jeb coronated. The GOP offers us nothing at this time but the same slavery that the Dems offer minorities and illegals.


47 posted on 10/11/2013 4:36:43 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: rbmillerjr
You ASS-ume I don't know who shows up to help as opposed to who has an excuse for every occasion.

A third party is a bogus idea from start to finish except for those who dream of seeming like a bigger fish when they're in in a much smaller pond.

48 posted on 10/11/2013 5:21:08 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory)
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To: Rashputin

That’s merely your personal experience.

Irrelevant.


49 posted on 10/11/2013 5:36:20 PM PDT by rbmillerjr (We have No Opposition to Obam a's Socialist Agenda:)
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To: jeffc

The more things change, the more they stay the same in politics. The enemy is centralized power in a national government as our Founding Fathers warned us. They knew that the danger of that possibility would always be with us. They firmly believed we should replace politicians that advocated such consolidation of power.

I do not see either political party making any substantive changes to curtail the rampant statism in Washington today or over the past century. They both cling to that power with different rhetoric.


50 posted on 10/12/2013 11:41:37 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Jacquerie

I am all for that proposal!


51 posted on 10/12/2013 11:45:37 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: roses of sharon

I could not help but notice that same sentiment.


52 posted on 10/12/2013 11:46:50 AM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Get back to me when the Republican Party has done the following:

Repealed the federal income tax.

Lowered personal and business taxes.

Decreased the size of the federal government.

Deregulated federal statutes.

I would not hold my breath if I were you. My “tantrum” has already got people thinking and debating. That is a small start.


53 posted on 10/12/2013 12:02:04 PM PDT by Q-ManRN (Progressivism is regressive!)
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To: Q-ManRN

I just left the ConventionofStates website. It is a work in progress. Still, it is a start. Check it out.

The idea is to form grassroots state organizations that will press state legislatures to do the right thing; call an Article V amendment convention.


54 posted on 10/12/2013 12:03:52 PM PDT by Jacquerie (An Article V amendment convention is our only hope.)
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To: Q-ManRN

Oh yeah, you’re the first one to ever bring this up...../sarc.

People been debating this for 55 years...back when Reagan had to convince Jesse Helms what the right thing to do.

And btw, they are doing a lot of what you want...albeit in states where they have power. Oh, did you forget a national party was a huge and complex thing? Yep, you did....


55 posted on 10/12/2013 12:09:44 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Tokyo Rove is more than a name, it's a GREAT WEBSITE)
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