Posted on 10/14/2013 7:56:14 AM PDT by Blueflag
Tons of ammo of all calibers here in Alberta. I just bought 1k winchester .22 lr hollowpoints for my son’s henry .22 lever I bought him for his birthday. A brick of .22, the good stuff is 29.95 a box.
I also shoot my .308 robinson arms xcr a lot, no trouble finding ammo. I thought the ammo situation was back to normal considering how much I see here, has it not bounced back there?
Love stalking too, but if you want deer you need to know they never get tired of “paying attention”, well except when little head is doing the thinking.
Funny. I was actually going to make a similar reference to why I HATE fishing from a boat in fresh water. B O R I N G.
Stalking and tracking is much better than the stand + baited field method. ;-) [ not that I am any good at it, by the way, but it makes for a better day in the woods. ]
YMMV.
Interesting reply.
On Gunbroker: Ruger M77 Hawkeye 308 Win. All Weather $665.00; bare rifle.
Fits the spec I seek.
I’ll look into it.
Guess Spell Check doesn’t know the diff between MOUSEr and Mauser.
Unfortunately for freedom-loving citizens of the USA the opposition will be using rounds that are standard issue to USA armed forces.
So it might be best to have equipment that can leverage this.
OK ... I googled it.
75 lawsuits, +/- and 5+ million sold.
Per several articles, what makes the rifle good (smooth trigger) is also where it *might* have its weakness. A misaligned (due to high-G impacts and inadequate maintenance) mechanism *CAN* put the firearm into a self-fire condition.
Interesting.
By way of analogy, a rear-engine Porsche CAN more readily oversteer - which is good for a competent, attentive driver and deadly to Mr. Mom. But it is also a source of its superior performance on the race track.
Caveat emptor.
Remington bolt guns are the most dangerous rifle in the known world.
AMEN! A friend once brought his Rem M700 in 7mm Mag over to my house because it had been mis-firing. I took it to my range, sighted through the scope and pulled the trigger. Nothing - not even a “click”. Leaving the rifle pointed toward the target (thank God!) I turned to speak with him standing behind me and the rifle fired. I unloaded the weapon and advised my friend that he needed to take it to a qualified gunsmith immediately.
That was the LAST time I handled a Remington M700. All of my bolt guns are Rugers or mil-surp Mausers. Never had a problem with them.
We live in odd times. Normally 308 is more available and cheaper but not right now.
Unless you handload, there is not much benefit from going from 308 to 30-06.
I’m biased, though, I cut my teeth on 308 and used to buy surplus ammo by the case.
The 700 is a great rifle. Take the time to research the models (visit the gun store and talk to folks); get the one which stands out to you - NO regrets.
The ability to reload is the way to go these days and I expect for the foreseeable future.
Semi-auto is a different story. Many more rifles to choose from in .308.
My personal preference is for a bolt-mounted Winchester 70 / '98 Mauser style safety, rather than the Remington's trigger block style.
Good stuff. Thanks!
Most of the posters to this thread are recommending rifles that weigh 10 lbs. or more and scopes that are WAY over-powered for your needs.
Find a lightweight Ruger, Winchester, or Savage bolt gun with an 18-22” barrel in .308 and get either a fixed 4x scope or a 2-7x variable with a standard crosshair reticle. Get a weather resistant finish and a synthetic or laminated stock. This will make an all-purpose, all weather rifle that is easy to carry.
A .308 hunting rifle should weigh a maximum of 8 lbs. with scope, ammo, and sling. 24” heavy barrel guns with 40X scopes are fine to shoot competition from a bench but you don’t want to lug that beast through the woods. Get too high of magnification in your scope and when you sight on a deer all you’ll see is fur.
A rifle is a tool. You don’t need a 12 lb. sledgehammer to pound a few nails.
Exactly. No sense having ammo in 7.62x39 ComBloc when your enemy is using NATO spec ammo to shoot at you.
Use the X39 to get the 5.56...
Love the M1A, not my first choice for a hunting weapon. Game wardens frown on 20 round box magazines. ; )
Look into a springfield armory M1A. One of the best guns you will ever shoot! Accurate out to 1000yds with irons! Can add a scope if needed with a Bassett mount. You won’t regret the investment!!!!
Good alternative perspective.
A Remington 700 24” barrel averages 7 1/4 pounds sans ammo, sling and scope. hmmmmm.
To me the weight is also what you get used to, or don’t — even my loaded P220 presents noticeable weight after a while, and that’s only a bit over 2# in the Serpa holster.
Good advice.
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