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[Vanity] Are most federal DC employees Northerners?

Posted on 10/18/2013 6:08:04 PM PDT by cradle of freedom

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To: SkyPilot
No divisiveness was intented.
61 posted on 10/19/2013 7:12:44 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: cradle of freedom

Read the title of what you posted - of course it was meant to divide. Please don’t lie. I screw up too, I ask Christ for forgiveness.


62 posted on 10/19/2013 7:39:38 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: agrarianlady
The state above you, Pennsylvania, is red through and through except for Philly. Ditto for Upstate NY, and ditto for NH.

Blue metro areas control NY and PA, but Red (as in 'Red' China, not Republican) Hampshire has no such excuse. Red Hampshire is represented by far left abortion and sodomite supporters Anne Kuster and Carol Shea (Che)-Porter in the House, Jeanne Shaheen in the Senate, and Maggie Hassan in the State House. The less said about McCain clone Kelly Ayotte, the better. Metro areas don't skew elections in Red Hampshire.

63 posted on 10/19/2013 7:49:25 PM PDT by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: cradle of freedom

The ones from southern Maryland do.


64 posted on 10/19/2013 7:50:23 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: SkyPilot

I believe that Democrats always try to weigh things in their favor which is why I thought that they probably were trying to get people who were Democrats. I have seen for some time that Virginians who live in the northern Virginia area around the DC suburbs were “blue” Democrat voters whereas the rest of the state was Republican.


65 posted on 10/19/2013 7:52:52 PM PDT by cradle of freedom
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To: warchild9
The same rule applies, though most all Kentuckians consider themselves Southern. Their state was officially neutral during the Unpleasantness.

Maryland wasn't neutral, it was occupied. As for accent, it used to depend on where you were from in the state. Southern Maryland, Eastern Shore, and Western Maryland all were fairly distinct from one another. Television and mobile society have pretty much homogenized that now, and accents fall more along ethnic and national origin lines than regional within the state.

66 posted on 10/19/2013 7:54:56 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: cradle of freedom

There are plenty of liberals in the south. And as far as I know, democrats have always gravitated to government jobs. That’s why we are overtaxed and get crappy service.


67 posted on 10/19/2013 7:55:08 PM PDT by rabidralph
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To: mouell

Preach it. Most rural folk in New England are pretty conservative. Not all of course.


68 posted on 10/19/2013 7:57:57 PM PDT by Betis70
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To: Smokin' Joe

IIRC, the Maryland legislature wasn’t given a chance to vote on secession. That makes them officially neutral.

I’ll readily admit to being corrected.

My daddy’s people in Kentucky were very confused.

And the county heads in my home county voted against secession because war would interfere with our traditional industry: smuggling. And that’s true to this day.


69 posted on 10/19/2013 7:59:25 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: cradle of freedom

There is an attack and anger here.......what is it? You meant to divide. God means to make all under Him. Perhaps you should change your energy.


70 posted on 10/19/2013 8:12:20 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: warchild9
IIRC, the Maryland legislature wasn’t given a chance to vote on secession.

They were held under house arrest in Fort McHenry and forbidden to vote on secession.

That makes them officially neutral.

If you are neutral with a gun to your head, does that count?

State sentiment was actively Southern, street riots in Baltimore where business people threw rocks and bricks at invading northern militias, railroad bridges burned, and able bodied men leaving home to join up with the Virginia Regiments or the First MD Volunteers (Confederate Artillery unit), all despite the lack of ability of the legislature to act.

The couplet from the State Song "Avenge the patriotic gore/That flecked the streets of Baltimore" refers to the riots: the State Song Maryland My Maryland was written by an expat Marylander during the war while in Louisiana.

While thoroughly occupied by Union forces, the sentiment was still strongly Southern.

71 posted on 10/19/2013 8:15:07 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Actually, I have a friend whose ancestor joined almost all his town in fighting for the Union. They were from some place downstate; I don’t remember where. But definitely Union people.

Here in NC, Marylanders are considered in-betweeners, like people from the Far West. Sure, a lot of them fought for the North, but where do the modern people like Westerners fit in? Does it even matter? I don’t think so.

/My sister is the child of a Southerner and an immigrant from Scandinavia. She was born in California, and has spent most of her life in Arizona. She considers herself Southern.
Does it matter? I think not.
//My wife was born in Cuba, was naturalized at the age of fifteen, and considers herself a Star Trek nerd. Does it matter?
///Only 1%’ers profit from keeping us at each others’ throats like this. That matters.


72 posted on 10/19/2013 9:10:56 PM PDT by warchild9
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To: warchild9
My ancestors colonized MD, and (much) later, fought for the South.

When I was younger, the State was referred to as "America in Miniature", with a wide variety geographically and culturally. Certainly every political attitude can be found there now, and could be found there, then.

Had the State not waited on Virginia to vote on a Bill of Secession, it is likely it would have seceded. By the time Virginia made their move, Maryland had been invaded.

Nonetheless, the State lies South of the Mason-Dixon Line, the traditional line dividing North and South, and had (at least in the Southern part) far more in common with Southern Culture than Northern. By the time you got to Fredrick or Hagerstown, that changed.

Does it matter now?

Yes. Of course it does.

The histories we were fed as schoolchildren were filtered through the eyes of the victors and published in the heart of what had been enemy territory. Certainly the Union fighting for "freedom" (propaganda, the war was economic) could never admit it forced an entire State into submission to avoid moving the capital and to retain the harbors. The victors will ever have the means to write their story as they please, and polish away such inconvenient details to make themselves more grand or justified, and every nation does it, unless they lose.

It is also the turning point, where These United States became The United States, and our government made the subtle change from a Federal one to a National one.

The war is increasingly significant in view of the subsequent loss of State's Rights, and the diminishment of individual rights (despite expanding those they legally applied to) which has ensued since.

73 posted on 10/19/2013 11:01:04 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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