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A couple of DIY projects for Preppers
10/25/13 | kartographer

Posted on 10/25/2013 10:10:59 AM PDT by Kartographer

Here's a couple of good DIY projects for preppers.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Hobbies
KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers
Build your own Ammo Can Rocket Stove

The Ammo Can I used was for 20mm rounds.



Remove the rubber seal from the cans lid.
Then using the 6” black stove pipe that I had brought as a template I drew a circle about a 1 1/2 from the bottom of the can. I placed a piece of broken tile to mark the distance from the bottom. (I then later used the broken piece as a spacer and pipe support on the inside of the can)

I then drilled hole large enough to fit a metal cutting jigsaw blade on the inside edge of the circle and used my hand held jigsaw to cut out the circle in the front of the can.

I then repeated this procedure and cut the same size circle 6” from the back edge of the cans lid.

I then measured the distance from the can front to where the 6” black stove pipe elbow to the front of the can and the top of the lid and cut the pieces about a inch longer. Place the spacer/support (Note the piece of tile I used as a spacer/support allows you to make sure when you add the insulation the it completely surrounds the firebox. It is the insulation which makes the Rocket Stove efficient.)and assemble the pipe and then mark the pipe off to fit snuggly with tin snips.



I picked up two 8 quart bags of Perlite (http://www.perlite.net/)from the garden center and filled the can. Tamping the can a couple times to make sure all the space was full.

I found the silver ‘face plates) duct connectors in the duck works section of the Home Depot. And used them to connect the pipe. They also helped seal the area around the cut to make sure no Perlite leaks out.

I used some scrap threaded rod pieces to make a grill over the top hole. You may want to look around for a used grill from a old junk gas stove.

1 posted on 10/25/2013 10:10:59 AM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!

You can read about my test run of this stove here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2914240/posts

Here’s another good easy project for Freepers. I got the filters and the spigots on EBay.

*Home Made Berkey Water Filter*

http://www.alpharubicon.com/kids/homemadeberkeydaire.htm

Please consider this our weekly Preppers’ Thread to post progress, good buys, DIY projects, questions, ...


2 posted on 10/25/2013 10:13:34 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: 45semi

Ping!!


3 posted on 10/25/2013 10:14:22 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

What is Perlite and it’s purpose in this application?

What is the function of the hole in the side and the grate sitting there?

What is the fuel and how do you light it?


4 posted on 10/25/2013 10:18:35 AM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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Note that if galvanized pipe is used, it will give off very toxic gas when heated sufficiently.


5 posted on 10/25/2013 10:24:41 AM PDT by loungitude (The truth hurts.)
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To: G Larry

What is Perlite and it’s purpose in this application?

Insulation http://www.perlite.net/

That’s you Fire box.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rocket_stove

You light it in the same way you light any wood stove.

The grate, I used what’s called a mending plate (4”X6”) raise the fuel up and allows air to flow around it making for a more complete burn.

If you go to the links provided you will get a better idea of how it works.


6 posted on 10/25/2013 10:29:20 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Great stuff Karty ! Thank you SO much !!


7 posted on 10/25/2013 10:36:42 AM PDT by onona (The Earth is the insane asylum for the universe (yup, I belong))
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To: Kartographer; blam; ChocChipCookie; Marcella; Bride Of Old Sarge; yorkiemom; VermiciousKnid; ...

The Bride and I have started a new project here at The Bunker: a greenhouse!

The Bride found a PVC greenhouse at Big Lots on clearance. It’s a simple 8’x10’ structure but now that it’s up, we can start taking advantage of the cooler weather to do more outdoor work.

Brainiac has also taken a shine to the new greenhouse. She is already drawing up seed lists, soil content and figuring out space available for vertical plants as well. Florida has unique soil, and we want to take advantage of it.


8 posted on 10/25/2013 10:39:10 AM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: G Larry

Perlite is a mineral so it has a very high ignition point. It is mainly used in horticulture as an aggregate in soil to provide aeration...same as vermiculite.


9 posted on 10/25/2013 10:52:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: loungitude
Note that if galvanized pipe is used, it will give off very toxic gas when heated sufficiently.

Yes. Blued stove pipe...or if your budget allows, black enameled...should be used. Not galvanized.

Of course, if you can find or afford stainless steel...

10 posted on 10/25/2013 10:57:10 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (So Obama "inherited" a mess? Firemen "inherit" messes too. Ever see one put gasoline on it?)
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To: loungitude

Galvanized will burn off, just don’t breath it while it does.

If you do breath it do what welders do, drink some milk.


11 posted on 10/25/2013 11:05:11 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: G Larry; All
I bought a rocket stove from the company who made the first one and they continue to make different ones according to your need. Look at the way they work on this website and if you think you can make one that does this, have at it. Their link is:

http://stovetecstore.net/index.php/

I bought a “Big Berkey” a few years ago over the net. Many on line companies sell them, just look for the cheapest price based on how many black filters you want in it, two or four.

I would not attempt to make a Berkey - purified water keeps you alive. Frankly, I believe, a homemade Berkey is not possible to eliminate the dangers a professional Berkey does. There is a reason they are No. 1 in the world to purify water. My son is a director of documentary film and has been in the African jungle many times plus the Amazon wading water with Piranha in it, and on the ice cap heading to the north pole and in Siberia in Russia several times, and he has used a Berkey for his film crew in these arm pit countries and none ever got sick from the filthy water in these places.

As backups, I have three Katadyn siphon filters for large amounts of water, not the small bottle Katadyn filter.

12 posted on 10/25/2013 11:08:31 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Old Sarge

Do you want greeneyes to put you on the gardening thread ping list? She starts a new one every Friday. It is a congenial group and we all learn from each other.


13 posted on 10/25/2013 11:11:08 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

Already on it, and taking furious notes, too!


14 posted on 10/25/2013 11:15:15 AM PDT by Old Sarge (And Good Evening, Agent Smith, wherever you are...)
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To: Kartographer

Swiss Man Installs Wood Burning Stove In A Car

Maybe unusually cold winter led Pascal Prokop, a 38-year-old Swiss man, to install a wood burning stove in his 1990 Volvo 240 station wagon.


15 posted on 10/25/2013 11:21:44 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Kartographer

What exactly is this contraption used for?


16 posted on 10/25/2013 11:23:23 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: JoeProBono

"Habemus Papam."

17 posted on 10/25/2013 11:24:15 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: BenLurkin

Very efficiently burn twigs & small sticks and heat/cook on top of the “chimney”.

Very little smoke or smell.


18 posted on 10/25/2013 11:24:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Old Sarge

There are pictures of my garden on the one that started last Friday. Johnny put them on there for me. I think maybe now I can post pictures myself.

If you have read much on there, you know I only started trying to grow plants about last March. Freaking squirrels and birds and insects/crap in the ground killed everything I planted, so I studied and now have a producing container garden and a “net room” in the garden with containers in it so freaking squirrels and birds are out of luck. I have been hoping the squirrels would commit suicide since they can’t get in the net room to destroy my food plants.


19 posted on 10/25/2013 11:26:38 AM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Kartographer

Sand is less toxic and gives better insulation than perlite.

Generally cheaper, too.

Don’t cook or breathe over galvanized pipes, either.

Ammo cans can also have lead content that isn’t fit for cooking. Simple discarded tin cans from food items like corn are cheaper and safer to use for building rocket stoves.

If you are welding a rocket stove for cooking, then you must use food safe welds.


20 posted on 10/25/2013 11:28:13 AM PDT by Southack (Media Bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Kartographer

Nice clean project.

A few years back I tried a proof of concept model using coffee cans and a yard sale metal bread box. Found some junked computer cases and used the case fan grills for my stove. You can find 200mm (6”) or large ones. Heck of a lot easier install with just 4 sheet metal screws and fewer snag points when moving it.

After having written that, might use one of the heavier steel computer cases for the stove body on the next project.

Found that a pop-rivet tool to be quick and handy for sheet metal work.

Used to be that the recycling center had a computer stack that one could scrounge in. Now that scrounge is a no-no. Some young fellas offered five bucks for case or office size printer. They got chased off. I here I thought that “re-cycling” actually meant that.


21 posted on 10/25/2013 11:57:18 AM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: dfwgator


22 posted on 10/25/2013 11:59:06 AM PDT by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: BenLurkin

You might want to read the article and look at the link, before you ask questions.


23 posted on 10/25/2013 12:11:58 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: All

Are the pictures showing up? Can you see the pictures I posted? Are the links working? From some of the post I am being to think now of it is working.


24 posted on 10/25/2013 12:17:06 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Marcella

Squirrel and Dumplings

2 Squirrels
2 Bay leaves
1 c Sliced onion
1 c Chopped celery
10 md Carrots; quartered
2 ts Salt
1/2 ts Pepper
1 1/2 c Hot water

Dumplings
2 c Flour
1/2 ts Salt
4 ts Baking powder
3/4 c Milk

Cut 2 squirrels into serving pieces. Place in a kettle and cover with 1 inch of water. Add 2 bay leaves and simmer for 1-1/4 hours, skimming as necessary. Add onions, celery and carrots. Season with salt and pepper. Add 1-1/2 cups hot water and cook 15 minutes longer. Add dumplings. To make dumplings, mix dry ingredients and gradually add milk. Turn dough onto a floured board, roll to 1/2 inch thickness and cut in 3 inch squares. Place on top of ingredients in kettle, cover tightly, and cook 15 minutes. Yield: 4 servings.


25 posted on 10/25/2013 12:35:45 PM PDT by outofsalt ("If History teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything")
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To: outofsalt

Thanks for the squirrel recipe, I’ll copy it as when the SHTF, the squirrels coming into my garden will be no more.


26 posted on 10/25/2013 12:47:40 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: dfwgator

LOL!


27 posted on 10/25/2013 12:56:17 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Kartographer

Step 1: Remove all ammo from can.

:-) Just saying.


28 posted on 10/25/2013 1:07:03 PM PDT by Lee'sGhost (Johnny Rico picked the wrong girl!)
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To: Southack

The advanage of perlite over sand is two fold perlite is much less abbrasive and weights a lot less.


29 posted on 10/25/2013 1:20:26 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the thread.

My preps this week are focused on the local food specials. We had good deals on Canned vegetables, beans, tomatoes-so I bought one or two cases of each all good till sometime in 2015.

Also had good deal on sugar, so I got 24 more lbs.Got some aspirin, olive oil, coffe filters, and hot cocoa - all were on sale.

After that the focus was on bringing in the walnuts, butternuts, and hickory nuts, and persimmons to process for future use. Have a bunch of roasted peanuts that I grew just ready to snack on too. Also found out that the Native American Indians used to boil the hickory nuts to make the oil come to the top, and then skimmed it off for oil.

Just wanted to say I found the info on thermos cooking really great. I had even forgotten you could do this, and had never tried it for much other than instact rice or oatmeal etc.

So I experimented with a macaroni dish that I used to make kinda like the hamburger helper with a dash of chili flavor. It really did cook the macaroni. So fast, and such a quick clean up.

Now I’ll be hunting up all our old thermos jugs too-just to have them handy when the electric goes out-it will greatly expand the choices.


30 posted on 10/25/2013 1:58:16 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Kartographer

Thanks for the heads up.
I started researching/making medieval hand weapons.
Nasty but affordable to make.
Latest one is a 2 foot long dowel with 6, 6 inch wood screws through it on the end.
imagine the possibilities.


31 posted on 10/25/2013 7:36:01 PM PDT by Texas resident
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To: Kartographer
Many Thanks!

But....one question!
The picture of the bottom opening shows what looks like a grill or screen inside of the pipe.
How far inside does it extend? And is it filling the entire diameter of the pipe?
If it does, I'm guessing it keeps stuff from being sucked up all the way?

Again, Thanks!
I have some ammo cans and I'm looking forward to making myself a stove, and making several as gifts to preppers I know!
32 posted on 10/25/2013 8:11:06 PM PDT by 45semi (A police state is always preceded by a nanny state...)
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To: 45semi

The grate, I used what’s called a mending plate (4”X6”) raise the fuel up and allows air to flow around it making for a more complete burn, but it could easely be cut from a scrap piece of steel mesh.

As noted by other FReepers make sure you do what I did and use black stove pipe, you should ever use gavinized pipe.


33 posted on 10/25/2013 8:23:09 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Marcella

Wow bump


34 posted on 10/25/2013 8:29:34 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: greeneyes

“Just wanted to say I found the info on thermos cooking really great.”

I was looking for something in a lower kitchen cabinet yesterday and there were thermoses with wide mouths I bought for thermos cooking. I need to read up on that again. I have the material to read in a folder I made for that and other info.


35 posted on 10/25/2013 8:45:25 PM PDT by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

I had only used it for stuff like oatmeal. Today I made hamburger helper type goulash out of some leftovers I had in the fridge. Left over chili and stewed tomatoes with some macaroni and seasonings.

I really didn’t expect it to work, but it did-quicker than I thought it would.

Basically, you boil water and add it to the thermos to heat it up. Pour out the water and bring to boiling again-maybe even including your other ingredients.

Add back to thermos with the ingredients, put on the lid, shake it to mix it up, and go about your business. I wrapped my thermos in a bath towel, because it was a cheapo, and I figured the insulation wouldn’t be good enough. They advise to lay it on it’s side to cook better.


36 posted on 10/25/2013 8:51:39 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: MrB

Thank you.


37 posted on 10/26/2013 6:54:51 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: greeneyes

Very interesting. I looked up the process. I would imagine it would work well for grits, perhaps potatoes if they were cut small. Squash maybe, again cutting it small.


38 posted on 10/26/2013 9:43:48 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Don't be afraid to see what you see. -- Ronald Reagan)
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To: outofsalt

I might have to dig my old traps out so I can try that recipe.


39 posted on 10/26/2013 3:03:16 PM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: prairiebreeze

Yes, I think you would definitely cut you veggies and whatever into small uniform pieces. I am going to develop a basic hambgurger helper, chicken and/or Tuna helper seasoning mix to put into a jar.

Then I can work out the amount of veggies and meat etc. for 1 serving as a quick fix for times when it’s just me.

I did this for a couple of muffin mixes. Now when I get an insaitiable craving for muffins, I just mix one up in a measuring cup, and cool it in the microwave for 60 seconds.

No need to heat up the oven for 30 or more minutes. No leftovers to deal with either. Course I do make the stuff other people like from time to time in bigger batches too.


40 posted on 10/26/2013 7:41:15 PM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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