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New Ligament Discovered In the Human Knee
sciencedaily ^ | Nov. 5, 2013

Posted on 11/06/2013 9:23:18 AM PST by JoeProBono

Two knee surgeons at University Hospitals Leuven have discovered a previously unknown ligament in the human knee. This ligament appears to play an important role in patients with anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) tears. Despite a successful ACL repair surgery and rehabilitation, some patients with ACL-repaired knees continue to experience so-called 'pivot shift', or episodes where the knee 'gives way' during activity.

For the last four years, orthopedic surgeons Dr Steven Claes and Professor Dr Johan Bellemans have been conducting research into serious ACL injuries in an effort to find out why. Their starting point: an 1879 article by a French surgeon that postulated the existence of an additional ligament located on the anterior of the human knee. That postulation turned out to be correct:

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KEYWORDS: knee; knees; ligament
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1 posted on 11/06/2013 9:23:18 AM PST by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Reminds me ... Thanksgiving’s just a few hours away ... gott’a get the turkey.


2 posted on 11/06/2013 9:27:07 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: JoeProBono

How the hell could that be overlooked for all these years...?


3 posted on 11/06/2013 9:28:18 AM PST by freebilly (Creepy and the Ass Crackers....)
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To: JoeProBono

“There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know.”
-Donald Rumsfeld


4 posted on 11/06/2013 9:28:57 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: knarf

5 posted on 11/06/2013 9:31:12 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: DannyTN

Reminds me of an old saying an old engine builder used all the time.

“It ain’t what you know that blows’em up. It’s what you know that ain’t so.”


6 posted on 11/06/2013 9:32:27 AM PST by IamConservative (The soul of my lifes journey is Liberty!)
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To: JoeProBono

Well there goes my fruit loops and milk


7 posted on 11/06/2013 9:36:18 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom ;Sarcasm is my bidness)
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To: JoeProBono

I’m certainly no doctor but that “ALL” doesnt look all that hard to spot. With all of the millions that have been performed you would think someone would have noticed a ligament that wasnt in their text books. it would be nice to read an explaination of how/why this was such a mystery.


8 posted on 11/06/2013 9:38:42 AM PST by Shamrock498
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To: Shamrock498

“Some of the conclusions were recently published in the Journal of Anatomy. The Anatomical Society praised the research as “very refreshing” and commended the researchers for reminding the medical world that, despite the emergence of advanced technology, our knowledge of the basic anatomy of the human body is not yet exhaustive.”
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9 posted on 11/06/2013 9:42:31 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: freebilly
How the hell could that be overlooked for all these years...?

Was thinking the SAME THING! That's a BIG ligament to overlook during anatomy classes. Wonder if they were just slicing through them all these years without realizing it?

10 posted on 11/06/2013 9:42:43 AM PST by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: JoeProBono

Huh??! How can something inside the body not have been discovered till now? And we’re not talking about some infinitesimal gland or something. This is a tendon for God’s sake. Is it extremely tiny or something?


11 posted on 11/06/2013 9:46:23 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: JoeProBono

Very common in Republican politicians... weak kneed...


12 posted on 11/06/2013 9:50:02 AM PST by Mashood
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To: JoeProBono

Oh the human knee, Oh the huge manatee, Oh the hugh man of tea


13 posted on 11/06/2013 9:50:47 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: DannyTN
“There are known knowns. These are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say, there are things that we know we don’t know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don’t know we don’t know.” -Donald Rumsfeld

I might add that there are "unknown knowns." This is damn near anything obama utters during his waking hours.

14 posted on 11/06/2013 9:54:45 AM PST by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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To: knarf

ROFL ROFL My thoughts exactly when I saw the image. It look similar to a turkey neck.


15 posted on 11/06/2013 9:56:10 AM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: Shamrock498
It was not anything medical but years ago - back in 1974 - I was taking a Drafting and Design course at the Tech Center. This technical school taught kids trades - motor repair, sheeting metal, beautician, drafting, etc - for kids that were not going on to college. In the first month of the drafting class, we were doing simple drawings - front, top, side. In the text was some kind of widget device with multiple shapes. It showed how the front, top, side was suppose to look. As I looked at the drawing, I noticed that it was not correct and informed the instructor. He looked at it and surprise, surprise - I was right.

Point being - sometimes people can look or work on something for years and years, and never see what is right in front of them.

16 posted on 11/06/2013 9:56:59 AM PST by 7thson (I've got a seat at the big conference table! I'm gonna paint my logo on it!)
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To: JoeProBono

bfl


17 posted on 11/06/2013 10:01:42 AM PST by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: JoeProBono; a fool in paradise; Daffynition

18 posted on 11/06/2013 10:05:03 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: JoeProBono; a fool in paradise; Daffynition

19 posted on 11/06/2013 10:08:12 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: freebilly

My question exactly.


20 posted on 11/06/2013 10:13:17 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Revolting cat!

21 posted on 11/06/2013 10:13:26 AM PST by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: Revolting cat!

22 posted on 11/06/2013 10:14:20 AM PST by Daffynition (*$17,000,000,000,000* Fear the beards! GO SOX!)
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To: listenhillary

perfect


23 posted on 11/06/2013 10:17:26 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: JoeProBono
All I want to know is, this pre-existing, undiscovered ligament covered by obamacabre?


24 posted on 11/06/2013 10:19:19 AM PST by Daffynition (*$17,000,000,000,000* Fear the beards! GO SOX!)
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To: Daffynition

25 posted on 11/06/2013 10:24:14 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: freebilly

good questions

there are knee experts who do little else

You’d think they would have noticed that before


26 posted on 11/06/2013 10:27:41 AM PST by GeronL
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To: al baby

didn’t need that pic either

an outline drawing would have been just fine


27 posted on 11/06/2013 10:28:22 AM PST by GeronL
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To: Revolting cat!

28 posted on 11/06/2013 10:31:06 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: GeronL

Apparently the ones who worked on Adrian Peterson knew about it.


29 posted on 11/06/2013 10:31:46 AM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad & lived with his parents most his life.)
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To: TurboZamboni

dang them to heck too!

lol


30 posted on 11/06/2013 10:32:57 AM PST by GeronL
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To: GeronL
an outline drawing would have been just fine

Having just sprained my knee on Monday, I didn't need to see it either. Need a couple of days to decide if it's bad enough to risk medical attention.

31 posted on 11/06/2013 10:33:57 AM PST by Stentor
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To: Shamrock498

Picture it through a short incision, with fluid everywhere, and all the rest of the ligaments there (illustration omitted much).


32 posted on 11/06/2013 10:34:23 AM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: DannyTN

Zactly...


33 posted on 11/06/2013 10:38:12 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Stentor

My left knee is bad, very recently, I can’t afford to see a doctor.


34 posted on 11/06/2013 10:52:27 AM PST by GeronL
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To: JoeProBono

I’m having knee replacement surgery Dec. 10th. Wonder if my doctor knows about this? I’m asking him, that’s for sure.


35 posted on 11/06/2013 11:00:08 AM PST by jch10 (Shouting from the rooftop, "OBAMA LIED!!")
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To: knarf

And thus, a new surgery to be performed on players in the NFL


36 posted on 11/06/2013 11:00:58 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: GeronL

37 posted on 11/06/2013 11:13:02 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: JoeProBono

Biology bookmark.


38 posted on 11/06/2013 11:15:16 AM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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To: JoeProBono

um.. thanks...


39 posted on 11/06/2013 11:21:33 AM PST by GeronL
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To: GeronL

40 posted on 11/06/2013 11:24:10 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: 7thson
I opted in Engineering school for a traditional mechanical drafting class as opposed to the "So you think you wanna be a Mechanical Engieer" Freshman Fundamentals of Engineering Design class. None of what was taught in the class was new to me, as I had hand drafting in GRADE SCHOOL Industrial Arts class... and plenty of experience with geometric methods for drawing.

The biggest takeaway from the class was the inability of about 40% of the class to properly reckon Front, Top, Side Orthographic projections to an Isometric. It was disturbing to consider that these people were going to be the Professional Engineers of the future.

One thing that is NOT misogyny here AT ALL... of that 40% of the class that couldn't "get it", all of the females in the class were in that grouping. Females don't have the spatial association accuity that males do... but stating such in college these days would be grounds for accusation of a hate crime and immediate, unappealable suspension.

41 posted on 11/06/2013 11:29:01 AM PST by Rodamala
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To: JoeProBono

Bet that would be pretty tasty with some honey BBq sauce


42 posted on 11/06/2013 11:30:03 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom ;Sarcasm is my bidness)
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To: JoeProBono
YTour FR sweetheart.


43 posted on 11/06/2013 11:32:51 AM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: al baby

44 posted on 11/06/2013 11:35:49 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: Shamrock498

I was thinking the same thing. How can any physical item of that size have possibly escaped notice until now?


45 posted on 11/06/2013 11:48:10 AM PST by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Revolting cat!

From the look of her knees I’d have to say Catherine Zeta-Jones weeds her own garden and scrubs her own bathtub.

Have to say I respect her for that.


46 posted on 11/06/2013 12:10:48 PM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog

you respect her for something you might be imagining?


47 posted on 11/06/2013 12:14:08 PM PST by GeronL
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To: JoeProBono

So, now we know that there is a ALL (AnteroLateral Ligament), then is stands to reason that there is an AML (AnteroMedial Ligament) to increase the stability of the knee, yes?


48 posted on 11/06/2013 12:22:44 PM PST by coincheck (Time is Short, Salvation is for Today)
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To: neverdem

Ping


49 posted on 11/06/2013 1:21:52 PM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: freebilly
How the hell could that be overlooked for all these years...?

I wonder why, in all these years of futzing around in people's knees, no one has noticed this ligament before? Did no medical student, while working on his cadaver in anatomy lab, think to ask the professor "Hey, Professor, what's this thing? It's not in my Gray's Anatomy!"

50 posted on 11/06/2013 11:29:17 PM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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