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3-star Navy admiral fired as deputy chief of nuclear command (military purge continues)
fox news ^ | 10/9/2013 | Robert Burns, AP

Posted on 11/08/2013 8:38:12 PM PST by Signalman

The deputy commander of U.S. nuclear forces, Vice Adm. Tim Giardina, was notified Wednesday that he has been relieved of duty amid a military investigation of allegations that he used counterfeit chips at an Iowa casino, the Navy said.

The move is exceedingly rare and perhaps unprecedented in the history of U.S. Strategic Command, which is responsible for all U.S. nuclear warfighting forces, including nuclear-armed submarines, bombers and land-based missiles.

The Navy's top spokesman, Rear Adm. John Kirby, said Giardina, who had held the job since December 2011, is being reassigned to the Navy staff pending the outcome of the probe by the Naval Criminal Investigative Service, which originated as a local law enforcement investigating in Iowa in June.

As a consequence of being removed from his post at Strategic Command, Giardina falls in rank to two-star admiral. He had been suspended by Gen. Robert Kehler, the top commander at Strategic Command, on Sept. 3, although that move was not disclosed publicly until Sept. 28.

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TOPICS: Military/Veterans
KEYWORDS: military; militarypurge; purge

1 posted on 11/08/2013 8:38:12 PM PST by Signalman
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To: Signalman

Or...was given counterfeit chips.


2 posted on 11/08/2013 8:40:37 PM PST by rbg81
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To: Signalman

Every modern dictator has (Stalin, Hitler, Mao etc) purged their military leadership of people that didn’t agree with their policies.


3 posted on 11/08/2013 8:41:20 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Signalman

If they demote him to his real rank, he’ll probably be a full commander or four-striper. In World War II he’d be commanding a POW camp in Mississippi or a supply depot in Utah.


4 posted on 11/08/2013 8:42:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: rbg81

Makes ya wonder.


5 posted on 11/08/2013 8:42:43 PM PST by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: Nachum

Ping.


6 posted on 11/08/2013 8:43:03 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: Signalman
Obama is set on nuclear disarmament.

It's been his goal since forever.

7 posted on 11/08/2013 8:43:58 PM PST by what's up
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To: Signalman

Early in the history of this BADministration multiple members o. His cabinet quoted Mao Tse-Tung.

Where are we headed...?

FUNDAMENTALLY TRANSFORM.


8 posted on 11/08/2013 8:46:13 PM PST by gaijin
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To: what's up

To become dictator, his goal since forever. Can’t do that with senior military people that would appose him.


9 posted on 11/08/2013 8:46:52 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Signalman

what the hell does that mean “counterfeit chips”


10 posted on 11/08/2013 8:48:18 PM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: what's up

This is more serious than disarmament.

This involves your head.

Does anyone else worry about the sudden increase in Homeland Security getting involved in local policing matters?

There have been several reports lately in the press.

A national police force is to be feared.


11 posted on 11/08/2013 8:49:15 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Signalman
Phony poker chips. Why the hell didn't I think abut that? Those Indians will never know what hit 'em


12 posted on 11/08/2013 8:51:39 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: old curmudgeon

Most likely dressed in brown shirts.


13 posted on 11/08/2013 8:52:40 PM PST by doc1019
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To: Signalman

Excuses getting a little thin........


14 posted on 11/08/2013 8:52:54 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: what's up; Signalman

15 posted on 11/08/2013 8:53:33 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: old curmudgeon

DHS AND TSA.

TSA is moving in.

DHS is moving in.

One is Brownshirts, the other is the SS.


16 posted on 11/08/2013 8:54:30 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wow, the difference between what he was doing in 1983, from what I was doing under Reagan in 1983, are amazing.


17 posted on 11/08/2013 8:58:59 PM PST by ansel12 ( Democrats-"a party that since antebellum times has been bent on the dishonoring of humanity.)
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To: yldstrk

modern chips have rfid in them


18 posted on 11/08/2013 9:05:06 PM PST by Ray76
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To: ansel12

You and me.


19 posted on 11/08/2013 9:05:09 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Ted Cruz/Sarah Palin 2016)
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To: Signalman

According to WND about 135 senior officers have been purged.
http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/purge-surge-obama-fires-another-commander/

Something serious is going down in the future.


20 posted on 11/08/2013 9:05:27 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

I think we should start giving our congress critters a hard time over the fact that they are letting this happen and doing nothing about it.

The house can refuse to fund or can cut funding drastically so DHS is restricted to the purpose intended.

Otherwise, we are just setting ourselves up for disaster.

Or as an old friend of mine, now dead, used to say: “I won’t carry the rope to my own hanging.”

That is exactly what we are doing.

Congress is really dumb. Why does a Marxist need a congress?

The answer of course is that he does not.

Then what happens to congress?

Just like those generals and admirals.


21 posted on 11/08/2013 9:05:39 PM PST by old curmudgeon
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To: Secret Agent Man

Didn’t Hitler and Stalin purge their militaries?


22 posted on 11/08/2013 9:14:29 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Signalman

Where is a Von Stauffenberg?

At least the Germans tried.


23 posted on 11/08/2013 9:17:51 PM PST by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2013/10/04/nicolae-hussein-obama/)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

yup. and hitler totally got rid of the brownshirts after he sealed his power in and he was done with em.


24 posted on 11/08/2013 9:18:01 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

America’s Historical Purge is Happening Now
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VsS-889ycHk

Obama’s Military Purge
http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/58845#.Um81CqN4EfQ.twitter

Uh oh. Obama’s Military Purge a Frightening Reality
http://www.newsmanity.com/news/uh-oh-obama-s-military-purge-a-frightening-reality


25 posted on 11/08/2013 9:20:58 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (I’m not a Republican, I'm a Conservative! Pubbies haven't been conservative since before T.R.)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Paging Marshal Tukhachevsky.


26 posted on 11/08/2013 9:32:56 PM PST by Argus
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To: Secret Agent Man
One is Brownshirts, the other is the SS.

Obama's Brown-shirts Are Coming
27 posted on 11/08/2013 10:18:04 PM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: old curmudgeon

I think we should start giving our congress critters a hard time over the fact that they are letting this happen and doing nothing about it.
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I think a select committee could subpoena those senior officers and determine why they have been systematically removed by Obama and his ‘non-defense’ Chiefs of Staff, who have ushered in LGBTs to the military and denied priests holding mass, etc., etc.


28 posted on 11/09/2013 2:25:14 AM PST by octex
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To: rbg81

I like your thinking.


29 posted on 11/09/2013 3:21:11 AM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Signalman

SET UP. The purge of patriots from the military leadership continues. We are witnessing true evil.


30 posted on 11/09/2013 4:17:56 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete
SET UP.

If all the other generals and admirals were removed on vague 'loss of confidence' reasons then why the need to blackmail this particular one?

31 posted on 11/09/2013 4:22:40 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg

It is more plausible than believing someone in charge of nuclear is that stupid.


32 posted on 11/09/2013 4:28:12 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: SC_Pete

This actually happened at least as long ago as May of this year, and Iowa Criminal Investigation spent a long time on it, eventually declining to bring charges. Odd indeed.


33 posted on 11/09/2013 4:36:25 AM PST by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: SC_Pete
It is more plausible than believing someone in charge of nuclear is that stupid.

Then why not set up the other ones?

34 posted on 11/09/2013 4:45:15 AM PST by DoodleDawg
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To: rbg81

sad isn’t it? it’s getting deeper-everyday there seems to be new one getting the shaft.

Gutting the military yet amping up “domestic”;HS,police dept grants,police violence towards citizens, etc.... yep, that’s what dictators do. :*(


35 posted on 11/09/2013 4:57:16 AM PST by lesliecortner (OMG! laz THAT'S SOOO FUNNY!!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would love to BHO draft of this article which I am sure was

discarded a long time ago along with a lot of other things if

they ever even existed.

imho it wasn’t written by him.


36 posted on 11/09/2013 4:57:16 AM PST by lesliecortner (OMG! laz THAT'S SOOO FUNNY!!)
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To: DoodleDawg

We will never know. One thing’s for sure, Obama is replacing every one with political operatives.


37 posted on 11/09/2013 4:59:09 AM PST by SC_Pete
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To: MagUSNRET

And it continues...


38 posted on 11/09/2013 5:23:25 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


39 posted on 11/09/2013 7:12:33 PM PST by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Had his Thesaurus opened up next to his typewriter when he wrote that one didn’t he.


40 posted on 11/09/2013 7:23:59 PM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will. They ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Old Sarge

ping


41 posted on 11/09/2013 8:03:19 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: doc1019; rbg81; 2ndDivisionVet; Jane Long; what's up; gaijin; yldstrk; old curmudgeon; ...
Comment from OldSarge a few days ago:

Okay, Folks, here’s a few observations:

We start with 197 relieved officers.

The 157 USAF majors were the result of a RIF (Reduction-in-Force); it was a personnel action that most likely had nothing to do with an ideological purge.

CAPT Litchfield, USS Essex, was relieved for cause for endangering his ship and the lives of his crew, when Essex collided with another vessel at sea.

RADM Gaouette had nothing to do with Benghazi. Gaouette wasn’t even in theater when it happened, and the Stennis Battle Group was in the Pacific. The Gaouette relief is not connected.

GEN Ham also has questions regarding his relief from USAFRICOM. There’s been debunking there too; I just don’t have the proper links to prove or disprove yet.

That reduces the total number of legitimate questionable actions to 37. But of those 37, we have the following:

Most of the reliefs were Navy, specifically in command positions, especially ships at sea. The ships involved were home-ported either 6th Fleet, or 7th Fleet - based coincidentally in FEMA Regions 3 and 9. The Marines that were relieved also followed this pattern as well.

Now, the purge of commanders in 2012 and in 2013 show a shift in focus. The 2012 reliefs were all unit commanders, either at ship/brigade level. The 2013 reliefs raised up to installation or major command levels.

This shift of focus could be the result of a purge (”It’s payback time”, declared Night Stalker). Flag-rank officers, particularly among the missile command structure, being let go is significant of such a purge.

42 posted on 11/09/2013 8:15:14 PM PST by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ

Very very disturbing.


43 posted on 11/09/2013 9:15:42 PM PST by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Signalman

This from the DeMoines Register that “counterfeit chips are very rare at the casino”. Not that I’m suspicious of zero destroying our military’s highest officers or anything like that.

http://blogs.desmoinesregister.com/dmr/index.php/2013/09/29/iowa-racing-and-gaming-commission-to-review-on-monday-case-involving-counterfeit-gambling-chips/article

“Counterfeit chip usage very rarely occurs in Iowa casinos, Ohorilko said. He said Sunday that he could not remember a similar case in his nine-year career at the Iowa Racing and Gaming Commission.

“It’s a very controlled industry,” Ohorilko said. “There are a lot of efforts made routinely to prevent any sort of illegal or unethical things from occurring.”

Dealers and supervisors are trained to prevent the usage of counterfeit chips, Ohorilko said. They learn how to identify chips by markings and weight.

Surveillance is also used to monitor gaming tables at casinos, Ohorilko said.”


44 posted on 11/10/2013 4:31:28 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: rodguy911
In other words this hasn't happened in nine years until Giardina shows up and mysteriously starts using counterfeit chips---yeah makes sense to me.Val/jar at her finest hour.
45 posted on 11/10/2013 4:35:29 AM PST by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: Old Sarge

Comment from OldSarge a few days ago:

Okay, Folks, here’s a few observations:

We start with 197 relieved officers.

The 157 USAF majors were the result of a RIF (Reduction-in-Force); it was a personnel action that most likely had nothing to do with an ideological purge.

CAPT Litchfield, USS Essex, was relieved for cause for endangering his ship and the lives of his crew, when Essex collided with another vessel at sea.

RADM Gaouette had nothing to do with Benghazi. Gaouette wasn’t even in theater when it happened, and the Stennis Battle Group was in the Pacific. The Gaouette relief is not connected.

GEN Ham also has questions regarding his relief from USAFRICOM. There’s been debunking there too; I just don’t have the proper links to prove or disprove yet.

That reduces the total number of legitimate questionable actions to 37. But of those 37, we have the following:

Most of the reliefs were Navy, specifically in command positions, especially ships at sea. The ships involved were home-ported either 6th Fleet, or 7th Fleet - based coincidentally in FEMA Regions 3 and 9. The Marines that were relieved also followed this pattern as well.

Now, the purge of commanders in 2012 and in 2013 show a shift in focus. The 2012 reliefs were all unit commanders, either at ship/brigade level. The 2013 reliefs raised up to installation or major command levels.

This shift of focus could be the result of a purge (”It’s payback time”, declared Night Stalker). Flag-rank officers, particularly among the missile command structure, being let go is significant of such a purge.

Thanks sarge - forgot to ping you when I quoted you - sorry ‘bout that...


46 posted on 11/10/2013 7:15:37 AM PST by GOPJ (Obama - "too arrogant to question his own bad judgement" ... Greenfield)
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To: doc1019

More and more ‘sacking’ of conservative general officers.To make room for Obama’s (and Valery Jerrett’s) PC officers to move up into upper command positions.

http://www.wnd.com/2013/11/general-blames-night-stalker-for-military-purge/

I may have come up with another theory on why a record number of higher-ranking are being removed from command.It may be an attempt to ‘flip’ the military from a bastion of Christian,conservative institution of the American society.And turn the military into another progressive-controlled institution.Like the Hollywood,public schools & universities are now.

Hollywood public schools & universities were once conservative institutions.Till the progressives infiltrated these institutions,in the 60’s.And then worming their way into positions of power.Once in power,the progressives consolidated their control by removing any chance of the next generation of conservative subordinates from getting up into the power structure.

IMO These newly-minted PC command officers would act in the same way as progressive Hollywood producers and collage deans have once done.That is to only allow ‘like-minded’ junior officers & NCOs promotions and leadership positions.

And then the progressive command officers will then attempt to run off all conservative junior officers from military service.Through giving them poor performance evaluations (Thus ending their chances for further promotions).And transferring the conservative junior officers to all the crap assignments.


47 posted on 11/10/2013 1:57:48 PM PST by Steverno (Steverno)
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To: old curmudgeon

We have much to be concerned about esp on the domestic side. The rise in police brutality & i’m not going to go into all that as most of us know it’s on the rise.

What I’m curious about this is: The dog shootings, the by the side of the unlawful searches, the anal probings (as of recent) the punchings, the beatings and the out right shootings of innocent citizens and the list goes on.

Is there a website to go to & see these stats? #1: Are these cops unionized because all are not. #2: Are they hires who are recently discharged vets who bring a war mentatlity to their job?

There is plenty of information about how the feds are just showering PD’s around the country with re-built,left0ver equipment,etc... plus showering these towns & cities with money to perfect “fusion centers”.

All the while everything is being dismantled on the national & international side there is much , too much, to be feared as everyone has seen in the past few years and it’s GETTING WORSE on the domestic side. These PD’s are turning into thug outfits.


48 posted on 11/11/2013 6:44:28 PM PST by lesliecortner (OMG! laz THAT'S SOOO FUNNY!!)
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