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The Cuban assassin with a deadly secret: 'I shot JFK’
The Telegraph ^ | 15 Nov, 2013 | Neil Tweedie

Posted on 11/17/2013 8:06:12 PM PST by fella

And now, he has a name, of a man who fits the bill as Kennedy’s killer, who is said to have confessed his involvement in the assassination before being killed in a commando-style raid on Cuba.

“I have tried to write a book for the sane citizen that is open both to the lone assassin theory and something more complex,” says Summers. “The evidence that Oswald fired is pretty strong but also full of weaknesses. Why, if it was Oswald alone, do 1,171 CIA documents on the subject remain classified in the year 2013? There is no doubt something was and still is being concealed.”

(Excerpt) Read more at telegraph.co.uk ...


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KEYWORDS: anthonysummers; herminiodiazgarcia; jfk; jfkmurder; reinaldomartinez; tonycuesta
An interesting read.
1 posted on 11/17/2013 8:06:12 PM PST by fella
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To: fella

He and many others make this claim.


2 posted on 11/17/2013 8:12:39 PM PST by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: fella

Mr. Rate: Would’ve been a bad job to take, though.

Nick Memphis: How come?

Mr. Rate: Whoever took that shot’s probably dead now. That’s how conspiracy works. Them boys on the grassy knoll, they were dead within three hours. Buried in the damn desert. Unmarked graves out past Terlingua.

Nick Memphis: And you know this for a fact?

Mr. Rate: Still got the shovel!


3 posted on 11/17/2013 8:14:01 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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To: fella

“The right wingers did it”. What a load of crap.


4 posted on 11/17/2013 8:14:18 PM PST by smoothsailing
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To: fella; All

” - - - There is no doubt something was and still is being concealed.” - - - “

B. Hussein, aka Barry Soetoro, has his personal records sealed.

You don’t suppose that these records are sealed to conceal something, do you?


5 posted on 11/17/2013 8:17:33 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: fella

I’ve always thought that Oswald was a shooter. I never thought he was the ONLY shooter though.


6 posted on 11/17/2013 8:18:55 PM PST by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: fella

Elvis shot JKK.


7 posted on 11/17/2013 8:19:39 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: fella

I watched an hour long special on JFK last night on CBS. I thought it might be interesting but it was the usual Kennedy and his American Camelot tale.

Plenty of Walter Cronkite and Dan Rather quotes. They did touch on the various assassination theories and basically toed the Warren Commission line.

They may well be right about that. I am certain Lee Harvey Oswald shot at him and maybe was the lone assassin but boy the whole thing sure reads like a conspiracy.


8 posted on 11/17/2013 8:21:30 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: fella
The man who had the most to lose if JFK served another term was the man who would not be on the ticket with JFK in 1964 he'd be on a docket somewhere;

that man was LBJ. The Kennedys weren't going to just dump him they were prepared to prosecute him IIRC; several of LBJ's cronies were already being investigated including number one Bobby Baker from LBJ's Senate Majority Leader days and Billie Sol Estes.

Many of us back then knew that Landslide Lyndon done it. He didn't pull the trigger but he got her done. Another book is out seeking to prove it. That's three by my count starting back when it happened.

9 posted on 11/17/2013 8:22:01 PM PST by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: fella

Dammit! I shot JFK! When are people going to get it through their heads?


10 posted on 11/17/2013 8:24:06 PM PST by Nachoman (Wisdom is learned, cynicism is earned.)
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To: fella

There has been about two days worth of JFK assassination stuff on my sat. TV, but I do not recall who was airing it...History? FOX?...I did not notice.
I do remember the assassination. I had just come out of Geology class at the Univ. of Tennessee, Knoxville.


11 posted on 11/17/2013 8:29:38 PM PST by AlexW
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To: fella

“When after all, it was you and me.”


12 posted on 11/17/2013 8:33:00 PM PST by dfwgator (Fire Muschamp.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

I think LBJ was capable of just about anything but I have never seen any real evidence of his involvement.

Several years ago, I was going through the attic of my G Grandfather’s old deserted house. It was located in the middle of nowhere in the Florida Panhandle.

To my surprise I found an old copy of the Texas State Baptist Newspaper. I have no idea why G Grandpa Padgett subsribed to that paper but he did. I think it was from the late 40’s.

On the back page was a full page ad from LBJ seeking the Baptist vote and promising an ethical Christian government if elected.

I still think that was funny. He surely fooled a lot of people.


13 posted on 11/17/2013 8:33:06 PM PST by yarddog (Romans 8: verses 38 and 39. "For I am persuaded".)
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To: fella

About 25 years ago I heard a 76 year old man on a radio interview who claimed to have been a CIA operative and said he had delivered the weapon to Dallas. He said there was a South American dictator in town and he thought that’s who was going to be hit. He said the CIA had tried to kill him in on the Maryland Turnpike and the state police ended up in a shoot out with them. The interviewer said he had confirmed that with the Maryland State Police. When asked why he was willing to talk he said “I’m 76 years old. What can they do to me?”

The best article I ever saw was in Texas Monthly about 20 years ago. A young man said his father made a deathbed confession that he was the one who killed Officer Tippet. He said his father was in the Marines with Oswald and had only been on the Dallas PD for one month but had never filled out an application. He told his son about a trunk in their barn. His son said he gave it to a guy who said he was an FBI agent. He said he contacted the FBI a few months later and they said they had no one working there by that name.


14 posted on 11/17/2013 8:37:17 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: fella

Oswald was the Lone Gunman, period.


15 posted on 11/17/2013 8:47:18 PM PST by Kickass Conservative (Good news, Federal Funding for my Tagline has been restored. Crisis averted.)
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To: fella; a fool in paradise

KGB did an excellent job of diverting Americans’ attention in the assassination story. Oswald came back from the USSR, didn’t he? (More about that later.) He also visited the Cuban Embassy in Mexico City.

We’ve known for a long time that the Soviets had their agents in the US. Agents and sympathizers, useful idiots. Where, what did they do? No one seems interested in knowing. Even the $30 million or so a year transferred (how? what did it pay for? How about the so-called “civil rights movement”?) to Gus Hall is of no interest. How about the possibility of those KGB agents behind all those conspiracy stories, theories, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM, implicating the Soviets (talking about the published theories.)

Next, we have heard of stories of Americans marrying a Russian and UNABLE to get that Russian to leave Soviet Union for years on end despite diplomatic interventions on the highest level. Here again, no one wants to add 2 and 2 and ask how come Oswald and his lovely Marina were so easily allowed to leave?! Duh!

Oh yes, I’ve read the recent accounts that have Oswald being an idiot that the Soviets were just happy to get rid of. Maybe. Or maybe not, since there were no other such returning defectors.

Even if there was no conspiracy and Oswald acted alone, everything from the beginning has pointed to the Soviets, and nothing to the Mafia, to the CIA, LBJ, and other fairy tale monsters of your silly theories.


16 posted on 11/17/2013 8:52:49 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious!)
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To: Kickass Conservative
...and we all know what "period" at the end of the sentence means......

;>)

17 posted on 11/17/2013 9:12:04 PM PST by clintonh8r (Don't twerk me, Bro!)
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To: Revolting cat!; fella; a fool in paradise
Even if there was no conspiracy and Oswald acted alone, everything from the beginning has pointed to the Soviets, and nothing to the Mafia, to the CIA, LBJ, and other fairy tale monsters...

What, though, would the Soviets have expected to gain from the assassination of Kennedy?

As it was, they gained no apparent advantage whatsoever.

If the Soviets are to be ascribed a role in JFK's assassination, they must also be ascribed a motive...

18 posted on 11/17/2013 9:16:50 PM PST by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: Ignorance On Parade)
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To: okie01
Cuba/Castro had a motive. JFK had attempted to have Fidel assassinates several times.

And isn't it curious that still after all this time we do not have diplomatic relations with Cuber...

19 posted on 11/17/2013 9:51:01 PM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: Kickass Conservative

I believe Officer Tipit was to kill Oswald—but Oswald caught on and killed him first—The Jack Ruby gambit was a quickly put together back up plan that had help from inside the police station.


20 posted on 11/17/2013 9:52:40 PM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: fella
I was in 8th grade Latin class when the school started feeding radio news to all the classrooms. Anyone alive and aware that day remembers--I even knew a woman who was in her playpen at the time, but she vividly recalls her mother crying and the news of the assassination. The moment, the day, are burned into our memories.

I was no fan of JFK then, and nothing I have learned about him since has improved upon my estimation of him. But I still want to know the truth of that day.

After all these years, I do not think Oswald shot anyone that day. Remember the 'paraffin test' from all the cop shows? Oswald was given one, and while he had a low level positive on his hands (possible because of his handling books), nothing was found on his cheeks, which should have been there if he fired a rifle. Other men test-fired rifles, and had strong positives on hands and cheeks. The link to the Tippit killing is tenuous; eyewitness accounts differ and the bullets could not be linked to the handgun Oswald was carrying when he was arrested.

Was Oswald involved? Yes, he was. I believe he was exactly what he claimed, a patsy.

I believe there was a conspiracy. There are many candidates for leading this conspiracy, but the most compelling evidence points to LBJ, who benefitted the most from JFK's death.

All the blather about 'Camelot' is repulsive, and interesting only as an historical oddity in selling a mediocre man with a photogenic wife as a cultured man of towering insight and intellect. Nevertheless, we are still owed the truth about his killing since it affected every American alive then and those born thereafter.
21 posted on 11/17/2013 9:55:23 PM PST by Nepeta
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To: okie01
in light of Vince Foster, and even Ron Brown, is anything not possible?...

even Andrew Breitbart......and the Rolling stone guy, Hastings IIRC.....is everything just a coincidence?....

22 posted on 11/17/2013 10:15:48 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: cherry

“is everything just a coincidence”

As Tony Hillerman’s detective Che would say “There are no coincidences”.


23 posted on 11/17/2013 11:00:50 PM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: fella

Oswald did it. Alone...... With not a scintilla of outside or inside help. None, nada, zilch, zero, NOTHING!

Case closed, for the last 50 years now.


24 posted on 11/17/2013 11:17:31 PM PST by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: Nachoman

I am Spartacus!


25 posted on 11/17/2013 11:32:42 PM PST by rfp1234 (Impeach We Much!)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael

As if the Kennedy’s were any better than LBJ when it came to illegal activity. Camelot it was not, more like a bunch of TRASH!


26 posted on 11/17/2013 11:38:19 PM PST by kcvl
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To: dfwgator
When after all it was you and me

No way... it was the Cigarette Smoking Man!

27 posted on 11/18/2013 12:22:04 AM PST by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: fella

I’m not quite old enough to remember that day, so I hope one of you Freepers that do remember can explain something to me...
For my entire life I’ve heard the cliche repeated ad nauseum by the msm that says that “America lost it’s innocence when JFK was assassinated.”
Can any of you out there explain to me just what the -ell that means?


28 posted on 11/18/2013 12:32:52 AM PST by rhinohunter (Freepers aren't booing -- they're shouting "Cruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuz")
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To: fella

The left can never permit a consensus of opinion to form that JFK was killed by one of their own.


29 posted on 11/18/2013 1:59:43 AM PST by fso301
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To: Nachoman

I saw you do it.


30 posted on 11/18/2013 2:01:44 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: okie01; Revolting cat!; fella; a fool in paradise
If the Soviets are to be ascribed a role in JFK's assassination, they must also be ascribed a motive...

One of the Soviet's motives was that they liked to kill people.

31 posted on 11/18/2013 2:06:44 AM PST by fso301
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To: rhinohunter

It means nothing. It is leftist blather just like the Camelot crap.


32 posted on 11/18/2013 2:08:05 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Redcitizen
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That was one of the BEST movie scenes ever !!!


Hint: Shooter


.

33 posted on 11/18/2013 4:27:39 AM PST by Patton@Bastogne (Swine Piss be upon the Sodmite Obama, and his Child-Rapist False Prophet Mohammed)
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To: Redcitizen

Awesome scene.


34 posted on 11/18/2013 5:03:35 AM PST by Mathews (Ecclesiastes 10:2 (NIV), Luke 22:36 (NIV))
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To: null and void

“And isn’t it curious that still after all this time we do not have diplomatic relations with Cuber...”

In 1963 did anyone expect that fifty years later Fidel Castro would still be alive & ruling Cuba (through his commie brother)?

FWIW I think Oswald acted alone. The shots he took didn’t require a Fallujah sniper’s skill & he didn’t have to reach out 1000 meters to kill someone. It’s a matter of security. Today, the SS would routinely lock down that School Book Depository long before the motorcade arrived.

OK, conspiracy buffs: the bulletproof `Bubbletop’ already existed. It was November, not July, in Dallas. Why wasn’t it used on JFK’s open limo?


35 posted on 11/18/2013 5:31:47 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: fella
10 POPULAR CONSPIRACY THEORIES

1. The Mafia theory: Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy was conducting aggressive prosecutions and deportations of mobsters. Killing his brother put an end to that.

2. The LBJ theory: Vice President Lyndon B. Johnson had the most to gain from JFK’s murder. He and Robert Kennedy hated each other. Johnson feared the Kennedy brothers planned to dump him from the Democratic ticket in 1964. But he and his fellow conspirators struck first.

3. The anti-Castro Cubans theory: Many “freedom fighters” died in the failed Bay of Pigs invasion of 1961. Cuban exiles living in the United States exiles never forgave JFK for failing to provide close air support for the invasion. So they had him killed.

4. The CIA theory: JFK and the CIA had their differences throughout his thousand days in office. CIA leaders feared that the president might disband the agency, especially after the CIA-sponsored Bay of Pigs fiasco. So they engineered his murder.

5. The Israelis theory: JFK did not support Israel’s drive to build nuclear weapons. The Israelis believed Joe Kennedy, the president’s father, was anti-Semitic and wielded influence over his son. LBJ reversed U.S. policy on Israeli nuclear arms once he became president.

6. The KGB theory: Russia was humiliated when its leaders backed down during the Cuban missile crisis of 1962. Oswald became a KGB operative after his defection to the Soviet Union in 1959. The Soviets “programmed” him to kill JFK.

7. The UFO cover-up theory: JFK wrote a letter to the CIA demanding to see secret UFO files. The insistent president might have leaked information about secret aerospace projects. He had to be silenced.

8. The Texas oil magnates theory: JFK planned to reduce or eliminate the oil depletion allowance, which brought millions in profits to oil producers. The oilmen made sure LBJ, a supporter of the depletion allowance, became president.

9. The J. Edgar Hoover theory: He hated his boss, Robert Kennedy, and didn’t think the Kennedys gave him the respect he deserved. Hoover and Johnson were old friends. So Hoover made sure LBJ became president.

10. The Secret Service theory: Agent George Hickey accidentally shot JFK in the back of the head from the car behind the presidential limousine. The Secret Service covered up the horrible accident.

Source: The Dallas Morning News

36 posted on 11/18/2013 8:37:29 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Revolting cat!
How about the possibility of those KGB agents behind all those conspiracy stories, theories, NOT A SINGLE ONE OF THEM, implicating the Soviets (talking about the published theories.)

Supposedly someone from the KGB said that they were behind the wave of conspiracy theories.

37 posted on 11/18/2013 8:54:33 AM PST by a fool in paradise (America 2013 - STUCK ON STUPID)
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To: elcid1970
OK, conspiracy buffs: the bulletproof `Bubbletop’ already existed. It was November, not July, in Dallas. Why wasn’t it used on JFK’s open limo?

Because Kennedy himself said not to. It was a nice day and he wanted to be seen.

38 posted on 11/18/2013 9:20:47 AM PST by null and void (I'm betting on an Obama Trifecta: A Nobel Peace Prize, an Impeachment, AND a War Crimes Trial...)
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To: null and void

It rained in the morning but cleared up by noon. They didn’t need the bubbletop.


39 posted on 11/18/2013 9:26:58 AM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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To: elcid1970

November in Texas is not November in New England. Yesterday in Austin it was 80 degrees.


40 posted on 11/18/2013 9:45:16 AM PST by GunRunner (***Not associated with any criminal actions by the ATF***)
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To: BeadCounter; GunRunner

The high in Dallas on 11/22/63 was 71 degrees.


41 posted on 11/18/2013 9:58:03 AM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: BeadCounter

Real question: was the Bubbletop bulletproof, for use in inclement weather, or both? IIRC, it was fabricated for motorcade use after VP Richard Nixon’s disastrous ride in Caracas in 1958.


42 posted on 11/18/2013 10:47:40 AM PST by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970

Bubbletop was NOT bulletproof. I think I saw this on a show titled “50 questions about the JFK assassination” just last week. Bubbletop was not bulletproof so we can all draw our own conclusions as to what the effect would have been.


43 posted on 11/18/2013 10:52:31 AM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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To: BeadCounter

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-9murlfjujU8/TfKyTJ34QPI/AAAAAAAAAQ8/fmTeajXyds0/s1600/05.JPG So this might be what a bubbletop would like.


44 posted on 11/18/2013 10:56:03 AM PST by BeadCounter (The night they drove O'BamaCare down...)
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To: Patton@Bastogne; Mathews

I liked it a lot too.


45 posted on 11/18/2013 4:17:11 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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To: rhinohunter

46 posted on 11/18/2013 4:22:11 PM PST by Redcitizen (.)
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