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The Police-Industrial-Entertainment Complex
The Huffington Post | 12/02/2013 | Radley Balko

Posted on 12/03/2013 9:18:59 AM PST by stevie_d_64

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/02/the-police-industrialente_n_4372272.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

In my book on police militarization, I have a section on the role pop culture has played in blurring the line between cops and soldiers, particularly with the onset of reality(ish) shows like A&E's Dallas SWAT or Spike TV's DEA. Over at the blog Gun Culture 2.0, sociologist David Yamane looks at a bizarre new reality competition on the Outdoor Channel called Elite Tactical Unit: S.W.A.T., which features SWAT teams from across the country competing in a number of SWAT-like competitions for a $100,000 prize. As Yamane describes it, "ETU is basically 'Survivor' set in the world of police special forces."

Of particular interest is the show's sponsorship by the Swiss gun manufacturer SIG Sauer. Yahame points to this commercial which apparently often airs during the show, and makes no effort whatsoever to distinguish cops from soldiers, or the police from the military.


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KEYWORDS: mraps; police; policestate; swat

1 posted on 12/03/2013 9:18:59 AM PST by stevie_d_64
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To: All

Before anyone passes judgement on this thread, please take a moment to read a snipit of this...

I have not found anything in this to be something that doesn’t expand upon what some of us already know, but it is something that illustrates a continued effort to demonstrate a desire to intimidate, control, and at a moments notice take away our freedoms and liberties...

The source, in my opinion is not as damning as it has been in the past...

This is something folks need to see, regardless of the source...

Just my opinion...


2 posted on 12/03/2013 9:22:11 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64

I agree. The theme of Police Militarization has been a source of many excellent discussions and debates on FR. I would add that the militarization of police forces have also lead to a certain sense of militancy or belligerence among police forces.


3 posted on 12/03/2013 9:25:26 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: stevie_d_64
The Police-Industrial-Entertainment Complex
4 posted on 12/03/2013 9:25:44 AM PST by Liberty Valance (Keep a simple manner for a happy life :o)
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To: stevie_d_64
The redcoats who marched to Lexington Green in 1775 were essentially acting as cops. There was no conflict, no war, no violence. But the redcoats were sent out from Boston to collect guns from the colonials.

Check your watch. It's 1775.

5 posted on 12/03/2013 9:26:42 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Liberty Valance

Thanks LV...The posting of the original thread didn’t really alow the linking of the URL because of previous mishaps from the source...

I’m not caught up in that debate, so much that I am more concerned about the content of this particular issue...


6 posted on 12/03/2013 9:27:43 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Sorry, mine says 11:30

;-)

But I see your point...hehe


7 posted on 12/03/2013 9:28:44 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: stevie_d_64

You can add 20+ years of television indoctrination as well. How many police/crime dramas show cops regularly breaking the law (warrantless searches, etc) in order to ‘get the bad guy’.

Prepping the sheep for the slaughter, turning them into passive, obedient morons.


8 posted on 12/03/2013 9:30:23 AM PST by ItsOurTimeNow ("Scheming demons dressed in kingly guise, beating down the multitudes and scoffing at the wise.")
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To: ItsOurTimeNow; All

Most of what I can see as an immediate abuse is the importation of out of jurisdiction police forces to “assist” local police in enforceing the law and other un-Constitutional edicts from the local authorities, and maybe even the Feds...

Case in Point New Orleans (Katrina), of which we know all to well the abuses and over stepping of the boundaries by the “imports” that DO NOT have any compulstion about doing these activities because of their lack of compassion to the local population, no attachments or knowledge of the local mindsets, much less the laws of that particular area (state)...

Thats one of the big booger-boo’s with me...


9 posted on 12/03/2013 9:35:03 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Army Air Corps

For some time on FR I have commented that when the orders are given, the police will obey them. The worst people to listen to are those who say “That can’t happen here.” That’s what the average German of 1928 would have said. But people in paramilitary organizations are conditioned to follow orders. We are pre-programmed for it.

Example: I personally know one of the officers of the Durham PD who was acting at the direction of Jerry Nifong on the Duke Lacrosse case. I was told that Nifong was everything we thought he was, and worse. I was told that the officers did not agree with or like the orders they were receiving; they thought they were wrong. But they had been given search warrants signed by a judge.

They carried them out anyway.


10 posted on 12/03/2013 9:35:19 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: Army Air Corps

There is certainly an “us against them” or police and civilians attitude that has developed.

They used to protect and serve the people, they have become protectors and servants of themselves and the state.

It used to be that the police were civilians, not a domestic army.


11 posted on 12/03/2013 9:35:30 AM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Ouderkirk

Outstanding point!!!


12 posted on 12/03/2013 9:38:41 AM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: Army Air Corps

But the bigger picture is it’s also led to escalating wide spread distrust of cops.

Years ago Americans saw those in law enforcement as a needed arm of government to go after real bad violent people and to protect our borders. A growing number of Americans now see cops as punitive agents of the government, out to seize their assets and gain further control at any cost.

All the kings men if you will.


13 posted on 12/03/2013 9:42:08 AM PST by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: stevie_d_64

‘...called Elite Tactical Unit: S.W.A.T., which features SWAT teams from across the country competing in a number of SWAT-like competitions...’

Ive watched that a couple times. If these guys a truly representative of SWAT teams we’re in danger for our safety..and probably liberty. Their gun handling/shooting skills are at best mediocre and its ‘bro’ this and ‘bro’ that (the Thin Blue Line baloney on steroids). They make a lot of excuses for their lack of discipline. Theyre certainly not the defn of a solider but seem to want to live in that world. Basically, theyre a gang of civil servants w/ a distorted view of the world and their role in it. OTOH Im sure the pols are happy for a ‘military’ to impose their will on the unwilling. It seems if all this goes to a logic conclusion the end wont be a happy one.


14 posted on 12/03/2013 9:48:59 AM PST by 556x45
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To: henkster

Excellent posting! Its spot on...


15 posted on 12/03/2013 9:53:59 AM PST by 556x45
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To: ClearCase_guy
The redcoats who marched to Lexington Green in 1775 were essentially acting as cops. There was no conflict, no war, no violence. But the redcoats were sent out from Boston to collect guns from the colonials.

Back then, the Redcoats WERE the King's Law Enforcement arm.

That's the whole point behind all the writing against allowing a federal "standing army" to exist. Federal Law Enforcement, plus the federalized, and federal-money-dependent local police, ARE the "standing army" the founders worried about.

16 posted on 12/03/2013 10:03:54 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: stevie_d_64

Balko’s book is well worth the read. It is well documented and speaks to erosion of Constitutional standards for law enforcement that should concern every conservative.


17 posted on 12/03/2013 10:03:54 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head, then take everything you own to pay for it.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Federal Law Enforcement, plus the federalized, and federal-money-dependent local police, ARE the "standing army" the founders worried about.

Bingo! / Bump.

18 posted on 12/03/2013 10:13:54 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 556x45

Seen the show also.

Cops are not your friend.


19 posted on 12/03/2013 11:03:16 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: stevie_d_64

They do practice swat actions in the middle of L. A. and the spectators applaud when it is over.


20 posted on 12/03/2013 11:12:20 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: stevie_d_64

A commercial trying to sell viewers a gun is expected to take the time to distinguish between cops, soldiers and civilians? Why?


21 posted on 12/03/2013 12:11:40 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Army Air Corps

I agree but I don’t think a TV commercial trying to sell a product is supposed to be blamed for whatever. It was a silly addition to the article.


22 posted on 12/03/2013 12:13:05 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Ouderkirk

Police exist to protect and to serve the state. You are taxed for that protection. You pay for it. The solution is an obvious one: defund the police. They are the standing Army the founders feared.


23 posted on 12/03/2013 12:38:02 PM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: stevie_d_64
This is misnamed. "Police-Industrial-Entertainment Complex" is just the same old Government-Corporate Complex previously known as Fascism.

I truly believe that most police are not interested in being part of the bigger complex, but may be forced into service for the complex as they will perceive it as their duty.

Entertainment is a slave to the larger corporations that own it. They report what they are told and create shows that promote the vision of the elite which is almost always that government is wonderful and people should not question anything, but be glad they are cared for and protected.

It boils down to the Military-Industrial Complex of which Eisenhower spoke. Don't forget that the military is part of the government. With Obama in office, the military is continually being politicized for its future use as a means of control over the American people. That doesn't mean those efforts will work, but they may.

Finally, both the Tea Party and the Occupy people are right, at least in part. The Government is the problem and the Corporations/Banks are the problem because they are one and the same. They currently work in such a seamless, synergistic fashion that they cannot honestly be considered as anything but one mechanism of total control.

24 posted on 12/03/2013 12:43:09 PM PST by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: RKBA Democrat

The increasing militarization, the increasing firepower, the refusal to face the very weapons they present to us when demanding our compliance.

The deification of these so-called “first responders” has gone beyond nauseating. They are not willing to “put it all on the line” to protect the very citizenry they are ostensibly supposed to serve. A shining example of this was the police who waited 1/4 mile away before attempting to enter Sandy Hook Elementary while those children died at the hands of a madman.

As you say, it is time to defund these police agencies, and sheriff’s deputies and the state police orgainizations. I was never of the opinioin that the brit were right about the “bobby’s” being unarmed except with a nightstick, yet it seems that it is the proper approach for them now.

The M-4’s the MRAPS, SWAT teams to serve warrants, has gone beyond the scope of police.

In most cases they are simply revenue enhancement officers.


25 posted on 12/03/2013 2:41:43 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: stevie_d_64

I had a discussion with a nephew who is a policeman here in Iowa. His dept was returning a lot of the weapons given to them because the regulations and paper work was too much.


26 posted on 12/03/2013 3:07:53 PM PST by PeterPrinciple
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To: Ouderkirk

I have little need or desire for police services. Until folks start showing up at budget meetings and demanding cuts, the situation will stay the same.


27 posted on 12/03/2013 3:38:01 PM PST by RKBA Democrat ( There is no worst president but owebama, and valerie jarrett is his prophet.)
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To: GeronL

A gun that may be of a configuration that is unlawful, per some state laws, to aquire, posess, operate by the evferyday citizery...

Unless you jump through the hoops, and make yourself a target for future scrutiny and audits at anytime they choose...


28 posted on 12/03/2013 7:36:21 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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To: 556x45

Why do you think they recruit from the ranks of recently discharged combat veterans???

Some will bite at the chance to re-live the “jazz” they got when outside the wire...

That is what is filling up the ranks of these “police” SWAT units...They have the background, the mentality, and the skills to drive, and coordinate their response to any situation based upon the graphic military training and de-sensitizing which is indicative of those police forces, or what they want to eventually become...


29 posted on 12/03/2013 7:41:11 PM PST by stevie_d_64 (It's not the color of one's skin that offends people...it's how thin it is.)
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