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NSA program stopped no terror attacks, says White House panel member
NBC news investigations ^ | DEC 20 2013 | Michael Isikoff

Posted on 12/20/2013 7:24:27 PM PST by Utilizer

A member of the White House review panel on NSA surveillance said he was “absolutely” surprised when he discovered the agency’s lack of evidence that the bulk collection of telephone call records had thwarted any terrorist attacks.

“It was, ‘Huh, hello? What are we doing here?’” said Geoffrey Stone, a University of Chicago law professor, in an interview with NBC News. “The results were very thin.”

While Stone said the mass collection of telephone call records was a “logical program” from the NSA’s perspective, one question the White House panel was seeking to answer was whether it had actually stopped “any [terror attacks] that might have been really big.”

“We found none,” said Stone.

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The panel’s findings echoed that of U.S. Judge Richard Leon, who in a ruling this week found the bulk collection program to be unconstitutional. Leon said that government officials were unable to cite “a single instance in which analysis of the NSA’s bulk collection metadata collection actually stopped an imminent attack, or otherwise aided the Government in achieving any objective that was time-sensitive in nature.”...

(Excerpt) Read more at investigations.nbcnews.com ...


TOPICS: Computers/Internet; Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: bhogwot; counterterrorism; nsa; nsasnooping; privacy; surveillance; terrorism
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Looks like the story is slowly unravelling piece by piece...
1 posted on 12/20/2013 7:24:27 PM PST by Utilizer
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To: Utilizer

Well, it might have stopped a terrorist attack or two if that was what they were really looking for. But it’s not.


2 posted on 12/20/2013 7:27:38 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Utilizer

The bast*** got caught. Goes against everything the Constitution stands for.


3 posted on 12/20/2013 7:38:49 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Cicero

The only attacks they’ve stopped are the idiots dumb enough to buy fake explosives from them.


4 posted on 12/20/2013 7:40:34 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Utilizer

Our intel agencies are designed to keep an eye on us primarily and everyone else secondarily.


5 posted on 12/20/2013 7:40:53 PM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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>> says White House panel member

That’s because the White House chased them all away...


6 posted on 12/20/2013 7:43:31 PM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Utilizer

Impeachment File for the 2014 Impeachment of “B. Hussein Obama,” aka Barry Soetoro, a documented legal citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.
________

Documentation File for the 2014 Impeachment of John Boehner for Dereliction of Congressional Duty by Speaker Boehner for failure to appoint a Special NSA Investigator.


7 posted on 12/20/2013 7:44:01 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Utilizer

The only phone call they needed to listen to is the one the Russians made to the..... Administration about the Boston Brothers.
No N.S.A. needed.

Image that!


8 posted on 12/20/2013 7:44:46 PM PST by VRWCarea51
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To: Utilizer

That was NEVER the goal.
It is to destroy America, its Constitution
and American FREEDOM for al Qaeda and America’s enemies.

WHY WERE THE BOSTON TERRORISTS IGNORED AND ALLOWED
IN WITHOUT PASSPORTS??????

same reason the Benghazi Atrocity is ignored.
it is a word that begins with “t”.


9 posted on 12/20/2013 7:48:08 PM PST by Diogenesis
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To: Utilizer

For a minute I thought it said “TSA” ... and I was about to agree with that, too!


10 posted on 12/20/2013 7:48:08 PM PST by Fast Moving Angel (It is no more than a dream remembered, a Civilization gone with the wind.)
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To: Utilizer
The feral government has declared its independence of us, the people.

I think the time has come to let it go.

11 posted on 12/20/2013 7:55:19 PM PST by Standing Wolf (No tyrant should ever be allowed to die of natural causes.)
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To: Cicero

Indeed. And they flat out lied to congress, claiming they stopped about fifty attempted terrorist attacks over the years due to their spying on all of us.


12 posted on 12/20/2013 7:56:45 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: cripplecreek
The only attacks they’ve stopped are the idiots dumb enough to buy fake explosives from them.

Exactly! Only Peter King still believes those fabrications (& even he isn't that stupid).

Don't you just want to wake up and it's America again and this was all a nightmare?

13 posted on 12/20/2013 7:59:17 PM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: cripplecreek
The only attacks they’ve stopped are the idiots dumb enough to buy fake explosives from them.

You noticed that too, eh? I looked at the posted picture of the alleged 'terrorist', and he actually looks like someone with a barely room-temp IQ, let alone a wannabe terrorist plotter. Or a muzzie.

But I repeat Myself...

14 posted on 12/20/2013 8:00:43 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

The NSA hasn’t stopped any terrorist attacks because they weren’t targeting terrorists. The NSA, like the IRS, Obama Admin, etc are targeting Americans. I hate those bastards.


15 posted on 12/20/2013 8:06:48 PM PST by upsdriver
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To: Utilizer

Well, maybe they can figure out who got our credit cards at Target, then.


16 posted on 12/20/2013 8:10:07 PM PST by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: The Antiyuppie
Well, maybe they can figure out who got our credit cards at Target, then.

My guess is Russian mob. Just their cuppa', based upon what history has shown.

17 posted on 12/20/2013 8:17:43 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer
I am no fan of the NSA collecting so much info on honest Americans, but to be honest it is the president's job to stop terror attacks.

The NSA did their job in the Benghazi affair, but it was Obama, Hillary and Jarrett who put the skids on the attack by not following through with the information provided to them by the NSA.

18 posted on 12/20/2013 8:22:21 PM PST by Slyfox (We want our PRE-EXISTING HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: Utilizer; cripplecreek

Actually, after thinking more about it it rather sounds like what the BATF(ools) were doing illegally to make arrests if it turns out the way it appears so far. Find some mentally challenged individual and set him up. He (or she) agrees to do something illegal to help the government people and is extremely mystified when he is promptly arrested and charged after carrying out the action.


19 posted on 12/20/2013 8:22:59 PM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

I hope Snowden smashes That Foreign Country known as the US Intel community into 1,000 pieces. Their oaths mean nothing to them.

The Founders never would have approved of this.


20 posted on 12/20/2013 8:28:31 PM PST by gaijin
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