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Judge Grants Request From Jahi McMath’s Family to Extend Life Support
Life News ^ | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 12/30/2013 4:47:11 PM PST by Morgana

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1 posted on 12/30/2013 4:47:11 PM PST by Morgana
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To: Morgana

Thank goodness! Let her family decide.


2 posted on 12/30/2013 4:50:03 PM PST by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Morgana

She’s dead, Jim.


3 posted on 12/30/2013 4:52:38 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: Benito Cereno

On the off chance that there is a snowballs chance in hell I do hope this child wakes up. Even if she’s never quite right at least she woke up.


4 posted on 12/30/2013 4:56:37 PM PST by Morgana (Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

If she’s truly dead as the hospital claims then this family needs serious counciling. Their desire to keep her on machines could stem from their guilt of putting her under the knife instead of feeding her healthy food and exercising with her.


5 posted on 12/30/2013 4:58:28 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Morgana

For how long? And who is paying for this mechanical treatment?


6 posted on 12/30/2013 5:01:51 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: goodwithagun

Does the girl’s heart beat? What keeps that in rhythm? Would her stomach digest food if given? The hospital is handling this very poorly. I would guess the other facility has had some serious contacts from the hospital admin that they better not get involved in any way.


7 posted on 12/30/2013 5:08:07 PM PST by healy61
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To: Benito Cereno

While my intent was to use the word “medical”, I think my typo was apropos. They aren’t administering medical treatment, it’s merely mechanically keeping the bellows and pump in her chest moving. When it comes to this kind of prolonging of bodily functions, I’m with Jeff Goldblum in Jurassic Park, “You spend all this time figuring out if you could, you never stopped to think about whether you should.”


8 posted on 12/30/2013 5:08:41 PM PST by Benito Cereno
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To: goodwithagun
I'm trying to figure out why they had pictures of her in the hospital BEFORE the surgery.

And the operation was to relieve a sleep apnea problem....not tonsillitis.

I'm betting this kid had a lot of problems.

9 posted on 12/30/2013 5:10:06 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

“Thank goodness! Let her family decide.”

Most important is that her mother says she is alive and I’m sure the family is paying the hospital bills. Therefore, it is none of the hospital’s or the judge’s business.


10 posted on 12/30/2013 5:10:27 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear

I feel bad for the family.

But dead is dead. I don’t think artificially keeping her alive because you don’t want your daughter to be dead is solid reasoning.

You got her past Christmas and I’m glad for you. But it’s time to accept the fact that your daughter is no longer among the living.


11 posted on 12/30/2013 5:12:42 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Morgana
From Wiki: Brain death is the irreversible end of brain activity (including involuntary activity necessary to sustain life) due to total necrosis of the cerebral neurons following loss of brain oxygenation. It should not be confused with a persistent vegetative state. Patients classified as brain-dead can have their organs surgically removed for organ donation. Even after brain death, the working of the heart might continue at a slow pace, but there will be no respiratory effort. Brain death is used as a legal indicator of death in many jurisdictions, but it is defined inconsistently. Various parts of the brain may keep living when others die, and the term "brain death" has been used to refer to various combinations. For example, although a major medical dictionary says that "brain death" is synonymous with "cerebral death" (death of the cerebrum), the US National Library of Medicine Medical Subject Headings (MeSH) system defines brain death as including the brainstem. The distinctions can be important because, for example, in someone with a dead cerebrum but a living brainstem, the heartbeat and ventilation can continue unaided, whereas, in whole-brain death, only life support equipment would keep those functions going.
12 posted on 12/30/2013 5:22:18 PM PST by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Morgana

This is a tough one, isn’t it? No one wants to see a kid die... but if she is truly brain dead, then that’s it.

Is still find I’m torn because around 35 years ago my great aunt either fell and smacked her head... or had something happen in her brain causing her to fall.

In the hospital, the doctors said she was beyond hope and they wanted to stop life support. My great-uncle fought them for awhile, but eventually my grandmother went to be with her brother because they were going to turn the life-support off.

Well... the woman came out of her coma. She wound up being fine... no real problems from the event (she had been a bit dotty prior... she liked to Windex light switches after people touched them and her house was SPOTLESS)... but she ended up outliving my great-uncle.

So ... I can understand how a mom might feel that the daughter is responding and I can imagine this is a terrible call to have to make.


13 posted on 12/30/2013 5:24:47 PM PST by Winstons Julia (Hello OWS? We don't need a revolution like China's; China needs a revolution like OURS.)
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To: Oliviaforever
I’m sure the family is paying the hospital bills.

And you know this how?

FWIW, keeping a patient on life support in an intensive care unit costs, at a minimum, $2,000-$4,000 per day and can run much higher depending on the patient’s condition, into hundreds of thousands a year.

Nobody recovers from brain death. Ever.

14 posted on 12/30/2013 5:35:10 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Morgana

This doctor was also brain dead at one point:

http://www.amazon.com/Proof-Heaven-Neurosurgeons-Journey-Afterlife/dp/1451695195


15 posted on 12/30/2013 5:43:18 PM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: cll
This doctor was also brain dead at one point:

No, he wasn't.

Here's what's happening to Jahi's brain right now. There is no brain activity whatsoever. None. It is not getting blood circulation. The cells are breaking down. Her brain is decomposing. Soon it will turn into a liquid and flow out of her nose.

She is not coming back to life.

16 posted on 12/30/2013 5:47:11 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Winstons Julia

Is a coma the same thing as being brain dead?


17 posted on 12/30/2013 5:51:48 PM PST by funfan
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To: Drew68

Read the book.


18 posted on 12/30/2013 5:53:43 PM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: funfan
Is a coma the same thing as being brain dead?

No. People in comas still have brain activity.

19 posted on 12/30/2013 5:55:07 PM PST by Drew68
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To: Drew68

If the family was not paying the bills, have no standing in the courtroom.

Furthermore, the mother thinks that her daughter is living.

Do you want to live in a country where an elected judge decides if you’re dead or alive?


20 posted on 12/30/2013 5:56:01 PM PST by Oliviaforever
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