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WEEKLY GARDEN THREAD VOLUME 1, JANUARY 3,2014
Free Republic | Jan 3, 2014 | greeneyes

Posted on 01/03/2014 12:19:51 PM PST by greeneyes

The Weekly Gardening Thread is a weekly gathering of folks that love soil, seeds and plants of all kinds. From complete newbies that are looking to start that first potted plant, to gardeners with some acreage, to Master Gardener level and beyond, we would love to hear from you. This thread is non-political, although you will find that most here are conservative folks. No matter what, you won’t be flamed and the only dumb question is the one that isn’t asked. It is impossible to hijack the Weekly Gardening Thread. There is no telling where it will go and... that is part of the fun and interest. Jump in and join us!

NOTE: This is a once a week ping list. We do post to the thread during the week. Links to related articles and discussions which might be of interest are welcomed, so feel free to post them at any time.


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Good afternoon Gardening Thread-hope you all had a very good Christmas and Happy New Year celebration. We are back to freezing temperatures, but the sun shines bright here on our little acre in Eastern Missouri.

Not much doing garden wise. I gave the indoor plants a bath in the shower. I have a red marconi pepper ready to pick. The lemon tree has numerous lemons about the size of olives.

I'll be starting some seeds soon for some indoor spinach, lettuce, and herbs.

Have a great weekend, and God Bless.

1 posted on 01/03/2014 12:19:51 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: greeneyes; Diana in Wisconsin; gardengirl; girlangler; SunkenCiv; HungarianGypsy; Gabz; ...

Pinging the List.


2 posted on 01/03/2014 12:23:52 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Got some sweet pea seedlings + bags of seeds at the nursery yesterday. They go in this afternoon or maybe tomorrow here in the Pasadena area, So Cal. It was 81 yesterday and they’ll love it. After Christmas at 4/32 degrees in western Colorado, the sun is so nice.


3 posted on 01/03/2014 12:25:13 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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To: greeneyes

I’m babysitting and on a tablet now, so I’ll have to post pix later when I get home. It’s cold here today, so I wouldn’t have gotten anything done if I were home.

I want spring!

/johnny


4 posted on 01/03/2014 12:26:49 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Oh wow, do you really grow lettuce and spinach indoors...or are you just starting them? I have a grow lamp and would LOVE to know how to grow them inside, if it’s possible.


5 posted on 01/03/2014 12:27:27 PM PST by MiddleEarth (With hope or without hope we'll follow the trail of our enemies. Woe to them, if we prove the faster)
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To: greeneyes

I am starting over after the “White Fly Episode”

Herbs from seeds.

Also have some pineapples and avocados starting up.


6 posted on 01/03/2014 12:29:21 PM PST by left that other site
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To: bboop

Jealous.... ;)

/johnny


7 posted on 01/03/2014 12:34:14 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: bboop

While you are outdoors planting, I’ll be indoors sipping tea, and doing “spring” cleaning. Also gearing up to start canning whatever meats go one sale.

I like to do my canning in the winter as much as possible, since that’s when we can use the extra heat.


8 posted on 01/03/2014 12:38:23 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You will have spring before we do!LOL


9 posted on 01/03/2014 12:38:57 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

True. I’m going to have the gkids helping this year. Mom has spoken. We shall comply. Daughter wants them taught to garden. I get slave labor.

/johnny


10 posted on 01/03/2014 12:41:57 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

-3° when I got up this morning. Float valve was frozen in the horse drinker. Had to take the lid off and thaw it out, but before I could get the lid off I had to thaw the latch. This kind of weather makes my bones ache. Seed catalogs came in a flurry the past few days, I must have a dozen now.


11 posted on 01/03/2014 12:45:55 PM PST by Augie
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To: MiddleEarth
Yes, I do grow lettuce and spinach indoors. Usually I have them going before now. I have a south west facing sliding glass door in the finished basement where the computer is.

I also have an old microwave cart with a 2 foot grow light. The grow light is full spectrum T5 high intensity similar to those sold in many of the seed catalogs(they are cheaper elsewhere-shop around).

I just plant the seeds in some pots and stick them under the grow lights and not too close to the window due to drafts at night, or overheating during the day.

Usually, I cover the pot with a little saran wrap leaving a tiny space for air until they sprout. Then just water as needed. I don't have enough space to grow lettuce for a salad, but I get enough to add a leaf or two to sandwiches, or soup.

12 posted on 01/03/2014 12:46:20 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: left that other site

Yeh, I had some aphids, and pitched the plants to start over. Seemed to be the best choice.


13 posted on 01/03/2014 12:47:34 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My slave is too lazy and involved with video stuff. Other than walking and hearing what the various plants are, all I get is attitude.LOL


14 posted on 01/03/2014 12:49:53 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Augie

I know what you mean about the bones. I have that problem too. I also have several rice socks, and bean bag pillows that you heat in the microwave, and put on each bone that hurts-it helps.


15 posted on 01/03/2014 12:51:31 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Mine aren’t teens yet, and I’m Sgt. Grandpa, so I don’t get attitude. ;)

/johnny


16 posted on 01/03/2014 12:53:56 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Mine is practicing to be a teen.LOL I never used to get attitude either, but every one else did. Bad habits are now surfacing here. Seems to be a defensive measure, like a porcupine.


17 posted on 01/03/2014 1:06:26 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes; JRandomFreeper; rightly_dividing; sockmonkey; Nepeta; Silentgypsy; ApplegateRanch; ...

I have twenty cups of different seeds in seed starter under the grow lamp.

I finally got my act together this morning, by separating packets of seeds into the month I plant them, that would be February and March. March 1, is a big bunch of them and I’m counting on no frost after March 1.

I went though all the packets including the ones I’ve planted and marked the month on them when to start the seeds. I was drowning in seed packets until I got them sorted today.

I need to count up the number of containers I will need, if I need more, but that task is difficult as some plants will grow in smaller, shallower containers, and some need larger, deeper containers. That is the next task - to figure that out. I have a stack of the plastic planting bags (look like white grocery bags as brown paper bags look except have drainage holes in the bottom), and that should do for some of these plants.

At some point, fingerling potato slips (if they are called that) will be sent to me.


18 posted on 01/03/2014 1:16:51 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Marcella

If March 1st is your “last” frost date, then around 80% of the time it will be.

However just a reminder, sometimes you will get frost or some other problem after that time, so be prepared to protect the plants, and maybe hold back a few under grow lights in case you have to replace them.


19 posted on 01/03/2014 1:25:11 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Can you add me to the ping list? Thanks...


20 posted on 01/03/2014 1:33:40 PM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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To: greeneyes

We have more black seed leaf lettuce than we can eat. Gave some to a neighbor and she loved it.

I need to pull purple top turnips tomorrow. They are about the size of billiard balls.


21 posted on 01/03/2014 1:35:07 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: greeneyes

“If March 1st is your “last” frost date...”

I’m figuring sometime in Feb. is the last frost date. We usually get our worst cold early in February and that’s when everyone wants March to get here. I will start the March seeds the first of March, so they won’t go outside for a few weeks after that. I do have a few to put under grow lamp in February but they won’t go outside until March.


22 posted on 01/03/2014 1:41:27 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: Arrowhead1952

Wish I had some of that lettuce. Those turnips are a nice size!


23 posted on 01/03/2014 1:46:28 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Marcella

Here is a link for guidance on planting dates in Texas. Which large city is the closest to you?

http://www.victoryseeds.com/frost/tx.html


24 posted on 01/03/2014 1:51:30 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes
Despite the cooler weather here in central Florida (lows in the mid 40s last night) I still have one plant producing eggplants.

Even spotted a Milkweed Assassin Bug and some nymphs making the rounds.


25 posted on 01/03/2014 1:51:55 PM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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To: Jed Eckert

Every thing has trade offs I guess. We are at freezing temps here, but we have no bug critters to worry about right now.LOL


26 posted on 01/03/2014 1:55:42 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

That would be March 17 for me.


27 posted on 01/03/2014 2:01:16 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: greeneyes

I am scaling down the number of varieties I’m planting this year and will have a great deal of extra seed that I am wanting to give away. Everything I have is heirloom varieties and the seed itself is all over the place in terms of age but has all been kept in a freezer.

What I’m really hoping for is if someone knows of a community garden that wants seed donations or is wanting to beef up their own to a larger scale on the cheap. I’m willing to pay the postage for anyone who’ll take what I have in one big shot.

Anyone with interest freepmail me and I’ll send you a list of what I’m getting rid of, as I’m sitting down here in the next week to 10 days to inventory and organize what I’m cutting.


28 posted on 01/03/2014 2:02:30 PM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: greeneyes

I was happy to see the assassin bugs still hanging around. They are one of the beneficial bugs for the garden. Although they are not selective they love to feed on caterpillars. Hope they are still here when the tomatoes start producing in the spring. The can feast on the pesky hornworms.


29 posted on 01/03/2014 2:03:46 PM PST by Jed Eckert (Wolverines!!)
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To: greeneyes

Hi Greeneyes! I was hoping either you or one of the garden freepers could give me some advice about Amaryllis. I purchased a bulb prior to Christmas and lo and behold... it bloomed Christmas Eve (100% luck). My question is what do I do with the bulb now? Do I plant it in the garden in the Spring or is there a way to keep it somehow so it can bloom again next Christmas? All advice is appreciated!!


30 posted on 01/03/2014 2:05:01 PM PST by momtothree
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To: Free Vulcan

That’s what I need to do-reduce seed inventory, I too have a lot of seeds in the freezer.


31 posted on 01/03/2014 2:05:01 PM PST by rightly_dividing (2 Tim. 2:15)
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To: greeneyes

Oh, this is definitely worth trying! Thank-you!


32 posted on 01/03/2014 2:05:23 PM PST by MiddleEarth (With hope or without hope we'll follow the trail of our enemies. Woe to them, if we prove the faster)
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To: Marcella

So at least 80% of the time you will have no frost after 3/17. Sometimes you might have some frost after that date.

Our date in Missouri is April 20, but I wait a few weeks because we don’t get the optimum temps then, and I like to plant things when it’s a little warmer here.


33 posted on 01/03/2014 2:10:52 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Jed Eckert

Hornworms. The bane of my tomato growing efforts. I pick them off and cut them in half with pruning shears. They are hard to see, and just one can do lots of damage. Ugh.

Here’s to the assassin bugs.LOL


34 posted on 01/03/2014 2:22:09 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: momtothree

I don’t know, but here is a link:

http://www.easytogrowbulbs.com/t-bys-amaryllis-post-bloom-care.aspx


35 posted on 01/03/2014 2:24:42 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: Jed Eckert

I hates hornworms.

/johnny


36 posted on 01/03/2014 2:29:19 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

I plant leaf lettuce every few weeks, so we always have fresh lettuce for burgers and salads. I buy $.75 pack at a nursery, give away about half the seeds and still have enough for the next year.


37 posted on 01/03/2014 2:31:11 PM PST by Arrowhead1952 (The Second Amendment is NOT about the right to hunt. It IS a right to shoot tyrants.)
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To: Free Vulcan

I would be interested in taking some of your seeds.


38 posted on 01/03/2014 2:31:35 PM PST by Drayah
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To: Marcella

When mesquite trees bud, you should be good.

/johnny


39 posted on 01/03/2014 2:32:48 PM PST by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greeneyes

Thank you, Greeneyes... I am going to give it a go. My high school friend’s Mother kept and re-used bulbs for years and years. I never learned her “trick” and she unfortunately is now gone. I do know that around Thanksgiving, she got busy with the bulbs (and they ALWAYS bloomed just a day or two before Christmas). Hugs to you, Mom


40 posted on 01/03/2014 2:36:06 PM PST by momtothree
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To: momtothree

My expierince with Amaryllis is that they bloom once a year. They are a bulb,so they usually double the next year.


41 posted on 01/03/2014 2:36:43 PM PST by Drayah
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To: Arrowhead1952

Those lettuce seed packets all have way more than we can use. I have plenty leftover to use this year.

I usually plant a bunch over several weeks in the fall outside, and cover it up for the winter, and on warmer sunshiny days uncover it, harvest a batch and let it soak up the sun before covering it up again. That usually lasts until around May or June before I have to plant additional seeds.

In addition, I have the indoor supply to use for lettuce on sandwiches.

I just didn’t quite get around to doing all the stuff on the same scale as usual this year.


42 posted on 01/03/2014 2:38:38 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: momtothree

You are welcome. Keep us posted on your progress please.


43 posted on 01/03/2014 2:42:02 PM PST by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: greeneyes

Starting the seeds on March 1, should make the plants ready to put out by March 17 or so. I do not expect frost after that at all but I could cover them if necessary.


44 posted on 01/03/2014 2:43:01 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: greeneyes
Have any of you gardeners had any sucess with growing lily of the valley in South Florida? Can I grow it indoors? Some zone charts have me as a 8.9. and a 10. Any advice will be appreciated.
45 posted on 01/03/2014 2:46:21 PM PST by Drayah
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To: greeneyes

The seeds I have planted now require eight weeks before they can go outside so that makes them ready by March. They will spend some days outside in the greenhouse, then be put out of the greenhouse with net over them to keep the killers away from them.

I had two types of onion that need eight weeks so I thought they all did and screwed up by planning two types that don’t need that long. I’ll figure out what to do about that when they are bigger. All the four onion types are up now.


46 posted on 01/03/2014 3:06:19 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: JRandomFreeper

“When mesquite trees bud, you should be good.”

I think you mean Redbud trees.


47 posted on 01/03/2014 3:12:10 PM PST by Marcella ((Prepping can save your life today. I am a Christian, not a Muslim.))
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To: momtothree

Where do you live?
In many areas amaryllis is very happy outdoors year round. It will go dormant in the winter, but then bloom in the early summer. Many bulbs need to go dormant in between bloom periods. So in really warm places, folks store them in the fridge for a false winter. Buried deep, amaryllis will be fine if the temp drops to zero.


48 posted on 01/03/2014 3:13:46 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: Jed Eckert

good photography
thanks for posting


49 posted on 01/03/2014 3:14:49 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: SisterK

I live in Maryland. Rarely do we get to below zero. (oh darn.. did I just annoy the weather gods?!)


50 posted on 01/03/2014 3:17:31 PM PST by momtothree
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