You are an hypocrite, emotional and ignorant.
There is a name for those who are willing to trade freedom for safety.
I'll stay on the side of and fight for Freedom
and advocate for the responsibility that comes with it.
Posted on 01/05/2014 12:44:26 PM PST by eastforker
I nominate Fitz for “King of the thread” in honor of his b’day.
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Ahh, I see you’re referring to the stick as a baseball bat.
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Could be. Can’t want the video again while I am at work. By now I’ve watched and read many different accounts in which people are shocked that they can’t get a pit bull to let go of the victim. Hence the use of break sticks for pit bulls. My friend gave me a blow by blow account of his fight to pull a small child from a pit bull’s jaws. He and his friends tried a baseball bat and even a crow bar from the trunk but the dog wouldn’t let go.
Here’s “dog whisperer” Ceasar Milan’s comment on the fighting breeds compared with the rest of the dog population:
“Yeah, but this is a different breed...the power that comes behind bull dog, pit bull, presa canario, the fighting breed - They have an extra boost, they can go into a zone, they don’t feel the pain anymore. He is using the bulldog in him, which is way too powerful, so we have to ‘make him dog’ (I guess as in a “regular” dog) so we can actually create the limits. So if you are trying to create submission in a fighting breed, it’s not going to happen. They would rather die than surrender.”. If you add pain, it only infuriates them..to them pain is that adrenaline rush, they are looking forward to that, they are addicted to it... That’s why they are such great fighters.”
Cesar goes on to say...”Especially with fighting breeds, you’re going to have these explosions over and over because there’s no limits in their brain.”
forgot the link: http://depthchargethoughts.blogspot.com/2012/02/more-cesar-milan-expert-on-fighting.html
It is in several locations around the web, I randomly chose this one.
Thanks, we love him to death. He's as sweet as he looks :)
He says thanks...er, ah, I think that's what he said. It came out as a series of grrs and growls.
Carry a fire arm, shoot pitbulls...
Which breed are you talking about?
"pit bull" is a type and a rather nebulous one at that.
The dogs in question are more accurately referred to as terrier types or bulldog types.
To me "pit bull" is a functional term.
It refers to only one function for which some types and breeds of dogs have been used.
They have been used for many other functions.
I would be no more likely to call all the dogs that you do, "pit bulls"
than I would call all Irishmen, 'potato farmers' or all blacks, 'cotton pickers'.
That is the way I see it.
You say the 'rates' are unacceptable. What are these 'rates'?
In order to know a rate,
the number of occurrences must be known as well as the total population.
If you do not know the both the numerator and the denominator with accuracy
then the posited rate is just a blind guess.
But, be that as it may, what are 'acceptable rates'?
To me, even one death caused by any type or breed of dog is unacceptable
and virtually every one preventable through responsible ownership.
In a society where Freedom is cherished,
education is used to inculcate responsible behavior
and irresponsible behavior is punished.
The question then becomes how can responsibility be most effectively taught
and how can irresponsible behavior be most effectively policed and punished.
Standard “it depends on what your definition of ‘is’ is” fare frequently offered up from pit bull advocates to try to make it seem that it’s just impossible to pin down what kind of dog is doing ALL THIS KILLING. Instead, with a wave of the hand, they try to redirect “These aren’t the droids you’re looking for” but it just doesn’t work.
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Quoting you:
The question then becomes how can responsibility be most effectively taught
and how can irresponsible behavior be most effectively policed and punished.
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No. That’s not the question. Pit bull owners don’t want to be responsible for the damage their dogs do (OH DON’T TAKE ME TO JAIL! NOOOOOO!!!!) and rarely if ever carry insurance on this damaging breed so the victim is stuck paying massive medical bills (if they survive), living with missing limbs/faces and going through countless operations while the owner gets off scot free.
No, the question is not how responsibility can be taught because pit bull owners have failed at being responsible all these years and are simply not interested in becoming responsible.
And “irresponsible behavior” clearly includes choosing to own a dog with this breed’s known capacity and proclivity to attack and do devastating damage. Owning this dog as a “pet” is “irresponsible behavior.” Ban the breed and prosecute violators. I am encouraged by the reports of criminal charges against dog owners whose “pets” hunt and kill others. If pit bull owners are prevented from worming their way out of being responsible for their irresponsible behavior (owning a pit as a pet) then it will drastically decrease the body count.
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Your’e a “freedom fighter”!
I know it is tempting to call for “ban” when threatened, but I bet, there are hundreds more incidents of accidental gun discharges killing people than pit bulls killing people. By the way, I hate pit bulls... they’re ugly and dangerous. But I do not want them banned for either of those reasons, because both of my criticisms of them are subjective.
An irresponsible owner should be sued till bankruptcy and tried for murder for their dogs’ misconduct, just like they would face the music for their guns’ misconduct.
Okay, I propose all Pit Bull owners be charged with first degree murder if their sweeties happen to kill someone. Agreed?
“Okay, I propose all Pit Bull owners be charged with first degree murder if their sweeties happen to kill someone. Agreed?”
Not sure if it is the first degree, but a murder charge for sure. But don’t punish those who are responsible pitbull owners.
I owned a Lab. I would accept responsibility for what my lab would do. Why can't you accept responsibility for your dog?
Your dog is more likely to kill others than mine because you own a large breed canine while I own a couple of goldfishes.
I used to own dogs. Now I own nothing. Your Goldfish are piranhas in my book.
“Your Goldfish are piranhas in my book.”
My goldfishies are piranhas only to those who break into my house. I think a bite from the serrasalmides would be the least of your worries inside of my house.
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