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As Windows XP wanes, Windows 8 scoops up users
Netwrok World ^ | 01/08/2014 | By Tim Greene

Posted on 01/08/2014 12:30:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind

Windows 8/8.1 has topped 10% market share for the first time, apparently picking up a few users from among those who are finally leaving Windows XP behind.

According to Web analytics firm NetMarkeshare, users of all versions of Windows 8 amounted to 10.49% of Internet users for the month of December, up from 9.25% in December. This as users of Windows XP have dipped from 31.22% to 28.98%.

While the showing for Windows 8/8.1 is a milestone, it is also part of a gradual trend. Since last February, use of the operating system has risen 7.82 percentage points while XP has dropped 10.01. Windows 7 use has moved up 2.97 points over the same period, so it seems most of those abandoning XP have moved to Windows 7 or 8/8.1.

Over the same period, Windows Vista dipped 1.56 points.

NetMarketshare’s data is gathered from the browsers of visitors to its customers’ 40,000-plus Web sites worldwide. The firm breaks down the sites as 46% commercial, 18% corporate, 10% content and 29% other, including government, search engine marketers and .org groups. Seventy six percent participate in pay per click programs to drive traffic to their sites, the company says.

Surface Pro 2 upgrade

While it’s not an official hardware overhaul, customers who buy Microsoft Surface Pro 2 laptops now will get faster machines than those who bought them last month.

That’s because the Windows 8 devices are being built with a better CPU than the earlier versions, according to a report by WinBeta. The newer Surface Pro 2s have Intel i5 4300U (1.9Ghz) CPUs vs the older versions that had i5 4200U (1.6Ghz) processors.

Here’s how Microsoft explained the changes to WinBeta: “Microsoft routinely makes small changes to internal components over the lifetime of a product, based on numerous factors including supply chain partnerships, availability, and value for our customers. With any change to hardware or software, we work to ensure that the product experience remains excellent.”

Chromebooks rule on Amazon.com

Amazon.com reports disheartening holiday sales from a Windows 8 perspective: Chromebooks are outselling the best-selling Windows 8 laptops.

According to the site’s Best Sellers, two Chromebooks – Acer C720 and Samsung Chromebook - are ranked No. 1 and 2 with two Windows 8 devices – Asus Transformer Book T100TA-C1-G and Asus X200CA-HCL1104G – coming in third and fourth. Price seems to be a factor. The Chromebooks sell for $199 and $179, respectively, while the Windows devices go for $448 and $298. Another blow to Windows 8: Toshiba’s Satellite C55-A5245 came in fifth - equipped with Windows 7.

Surface 2 BitLocker woes

Microsoft is promising a Jan. 14 solution to a Surface 2 software problem that has the device demanding the BitLocker recovery key when it boots up.

Microsoft acknowledges it shouldn’t do that and is working on a fix.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: microsoft; windows8; windows81; windowsxp; xp
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1 posted on 01/08/2014 12:30:34 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

See also here:

http://www.networkworld.com/community/blog/end-windows-xp-has-beg

TITLE: The end of Windows XP has begun: It’s all over for Windows XP soon, and the rush to migrate appears to be on.


2 posted on 01/08/2014 12:31:30 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

In 7 you can’t search like you could in XP. Does 8 allow you to search like you could with XP or do they still deny that for anti-virus reasons?


3 posted on 01/08/2014 12:34:11 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Had 8 for a year now and wish to switch to 7.


4 posted on 01/08/2014 12:34:12 PM PST by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Vaquero
Agreed. 8 is a headache compared to 7.
5 posted on 01/08/2014 12:36:14 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: SeekAndFind

When I need a computer, if there isn’t something a hellova lot better than windows 8, I will be an Apple user.


6 posted on 01/08/2014 12:36:28 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: CMailBag

Windows 8 is a lot like Obamacare. A useless piece of crap that they think they can BS people into liking.


7 posted on 01/08/2014 12:38:34 PM PST by CMailBag
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To: SeekAndFind

The wife and I have Windows, Apple, and Unix machines networked. They all play well with each other.

When we want to do real work, we use the Apples or Unix machines.

When we want to....uh....er...battle Outlook or twaddle, we (reluctantly) engage the Windows units.

Oh, forgot, Microsoft’s Solitaire still rules.


8 posted on 01/08/2014 12:41:23 PM PST by Da Coyote
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To: SeekAndFind
I went from a 15-year user of XP and was forced into 8.

I want my XP back.

9 posted on 01/08/2014 12:42:26 PM PST by elkfersupper
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To: SeekAndFind

I like 8.


10 posted on 01/08/2014 12:46:09 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: cripplecreek

8.1 is a fairly decent upgrade from 8.0 over all.


11 posted on 01/08/2014 12:47:33 PM PST by Bidimus1
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To: elkfersupper
I have quite a bit of design software that I routinely use for a side business I have. Non of it is compatible with Windows 8 and its not economically feasible for me to repurchase this. Looks like I'll be keeping my XP machine running for quite some time.
12 posted on 01/08/2014 12:48:39 PM PST by RBW in PA
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To: Bidimus1

I only had the new computer and Windows 8 for about 3 days before the 8.1 upgrade appeared.

Personally I think people just like to whine for no apparent reason. (Vista users had a good reason to complain in my opinion)


13 posted on 01/08/2014 12:51:16 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Did I make it in before the usual guys extolling the virtues of XP, and bragging about their inability of learning how to use Windows 8?

I’m sure there will be some guy claiming that it’s unusable without a touch screen, or something about it being “shoved down their throats” within the next hour.


14 posted on 01/08/2014 12:51:20 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SeekAndFind

Why to avoid Windows 8:
https://www.fsf.org/windows8

I’ll keep my Windows XP computers until they crumble. For current/supported operating systems I have Win 7 and Linux.

7 is the end of the Windows line for me.


15 posted on 01/08/2014 12:51:47 PM PST by NewHampshireDuo
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To: SeekAndFind

I like 7 and my current PC just fine. By the time I upgrade, they’ll be up to 10 or 11.


16 posted on 01/08/2014 12:52:23 PM PST by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: A CA Guy

The search in 7 is significantly better than the search in XP.


17 posted on 01/08/2014 12:52:46 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’m going to upgrade from XP to Vista. I hear Vista is really awesome. You know, Windows Vista. What do you mean you’ve never heard of it? It’s going to be the biggest thing since ....... Windows Me? Never heard of that one either?

Linux. There is no substitute.


18 posted on 01/08/2014 12:54:51 PM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: elkfersupper

I know the feeling, I hate my 7 so bad I’m thinking of looking for a used/rebuilt XP. I got an Ipad just to eliminate 80 percent of my 7 needs.


19 posted on 01/08/2014 12:58:26 PM PST by MrKatykelly
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll NEVER run Win 8 and most businesses will not. I am migrating to WIN 7 and I like it... to me... 8 sucks. YMMV.


20 posted on 01/08/2014 1:00:53 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Uh oh, another thread where Win 8 fanboys will fly to the flame.


21 posted on 01/08/2014 1:01:35 PM PST by MarineBrat (Better dead than red!)
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To: cdcdawg

Does Vista run an a PS2?


22 posted on 01/08/2014 1:03:25 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: A CA Guy

When you open a Windows Explorer window there is a search field just like a web browser uses. It’s different and takes some getting used to to become proficient but you can search.

Another one of those “features” microsquish gave us that we didn’t want...


23 posted on 01/08/2014 1:06:16 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: All

The company I work for is still working on migration plans....to Win 7.


24 posted on 01/08/2014 1:07:01 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SeekAndFind

They do these articles almost without ever mentioning that a lot of people have little choice but to leave XP since support is ending.

XP is still the top OS on the planet though. Have to wonder how many foreigners can afford to switch over?


25 posted on 01/08/2014 1:08:57 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeekAndFind

Surface 2 comes with bitlocker installed?


26 posted on 01/08/2014 1:11:09 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: hinckley buzzard

Just bought my boy (15) a new computer and the only thing he insisted on was Windows 7 rather than 8.

Guess he knows more about it than me.


27 posted on 01/08/2014 1:13:38 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: Da Coyote

The new Apple Pro (starting around $3000) looks like a coffee pot or a small trash can.


28 posted on 01/08/2014 1:13:39 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: CMailBag

“When I need a computer, if there isn’t something a hellova lot better than windows 8, I will be an Apple user.”

FWIW, I replaced my 10 year old XP laptop last year (Dec 2012, actually).

ONLY Windows 8 was available.

I purchased a Mac Mini, installed Parallels and bought a Windows 7 ‘system builder’ operating system on Amazon.

I am extremely happy with my choice. I actually DO have to deal with clients with documents in Pages and Keynote - now it’s no problem.

Windows 7 programs open in a window (I have two monitors) and I can copy/paste from Pages to Word and vica-versa.

It’s fantastic.

I really hate Windows 8 but am very happy with Windows 7.

The bonus is now I have my text messages (iMessages, actually) popup on the Mac Dock. I’ve never been as productive.

Thought you might like to know there are options...


29 posted on 01/08/2014 1:26:15 PM PST by BBB333 (Q: Which is grammatically correct? Joe Biden IS or Joe Biden ARE an idiot?)
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To: SeekAndFind

It would be interesting to see the total list of operating systems in use.

About a year and a half ago we had Hughes Satellite internet installed. I had a discussion with the guy doing the install about operating systems. To my surprise he said there are many out there still using Win98 and Win2K for internet use.


30 posted on 01/08/2014 1:27:21 PM PST by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Windows 95/98 Pass
Windows ME: Fail
Windows XP: Pass
Windows Vista: Fail
Windows 7 Pass
Windows 8 Fail
Windows 9 ?

Is anyone else seeing a pattern here?


31 posted on 01/08/2014 1:27:32 PM PST by Signalman
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To: SeekAndFind

32 posted on 01/08/2014 1:31:38 PM PST by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: redfreedom
It is hard to measure but some sites keep stats of visits by OS. I bet many XP computers these days are kept offline for one reason or another. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems Net Applications says Win 7 is most popular (probably US-heavy on users). Linux users have no real reason to visit this site. Windows 7   47.52% Windows XP   28.98% Windows 8   10.49% OS X   7.53% Windows Vista   3.61% Linux   1.73% Other   4.88%
33 posted on 01/08/2014 1:36:06 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

I did not use HTML. darn it


34 posted on 01/08/2014 1:36:41 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: VanDeKoik

Bragging about their inability to learn Windows 8, or something about it being shoved down their throats????

I like to compare computers to other common goodies we all buy like cars. We still own and drive a 1999 Geo Metro. The steering wheel is on the left side, the gas pedal is on the right side of the floor board. The windshield is in front of us, the shifter is on the floor in the center.

Last year we bought a 2013 Subaru Legacy. And to our surprise the controls layout is identical to our Geo. The steering wheel, shifter, gas pedal, etc are all in the same locations and we do not have to learn how to drive it.

My point is just why should Microsoft change the way something is operated or controlled? Yes, I can see new features that make an operating system either more secure or more efficient. Just like our new Subaru, a far superior vehicle compared to the Geo, but we just got in the Subaru and safely drove it off at highway speeds.

There is no practical reason to change how something is operated or controlled.

Now for things being shoved down our throats. By making XP obsolete, they are indeed attempting to get people to move on to something else. Many people, such as the elderly living on a fixed income cannot afford this switcherroo BS.

We are one of the ones moving to Win7. Our install discs will be here in a few days.


35 posted on 01/08/2014 1:37:27 PM PST by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: gura

Win 3.1 should run pretty fast on a newer computer

OK.. it won’t run at all because it is limited to certain size hdd’s and RAM or something


36 posted on 01/08/2014 1:37:27 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SeekAndFind
Win 8 is crap.

Win 7 is the new XP.

37 posted on 01/08/2014 1:39:46 PM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: redfreedom
Oh, man, I just ride in 'em ...
I don't know what makes 'em work.

That's my attitude with computers as well.

38 posted on 01/08/2014 1:40:56 PM PST by BlueLancer
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To: GeronL

“I bet many XP computers these days are kept offline for one reason or another. “

I’m upgrading our Win XP computer to Win 7. We will be one of those keeping Win XP. My intent is to have a dual operating system. One with XP for older software, and just in case we do not like 7.


39 posted on 01/08/2014 1:47:40 PM PST by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: redfreedom

I remember having games I loved back when I had XP, most still worked on Win98 thank goodness


40 posted on 01/08/2014 1:49:25 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Signalman

You skipped Windows 2000. I think you would rate it “Pass”.


41 posted on 01/08/2014 2:00:54 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: discostu
The search in 7 is significantly better than the search in XP.

And the reason(s) for that statement? Not a challenge, I'm curious. I have to help out my mother with her 7 machine, and I end up grumbling every time I have to deal with it, especially when using the search.

42 posted on 01/08/2014 2:01:15 PM PST by Calvin Locke
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Because it is better. It’s more accessible, it does faster searching, and the search on the start menu (which is different than the search in explorer) also searches applications and Windows settings (wanna turn off UAC, you don’t need to remember where it is, just type UAC into the search box and Windows brings up the UAC settings dialog). It’s significantly more powerful than the search in XP.


43 posted on 01/08/2014 2:06:23 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: Dalberg-Acton; Signalman

And there was NT. It was popular for business use about the same time Win98 was for home use.


44 posted on 01/08/2014 2:08:24 PM PST by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I migrated from Windows XP to Windows 7 and really like it. It is a worthy successor to XP. I have tried Windows 8 and find it quite frustrating to use especially to us so used to the older versions of Windows. I’ll stick with 7 for now.


45 posted on 01/08/2014 2:10:04 PM PST by The Great RJ
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To: GeronL

the Ins. Co i work for still uses XP my co laptop/Desktop both have XP and internet otherwise i can’t function at my job


46 posted on 01/08/2014 2:13:02 PM PST by markman46 (engage brain before using keyboard!!!)
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To: redfreedom

If your Windows 7 is ultimate you can make XP virtual machines, much smoother than dual booting. When I went to 7 I did the dual boot thing, and never went back. 7’s a good OS.


47 posted on 01/08/2014 2:15:31 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: SeekAndFind
I bitched and moaned about Win8, I really like Windows 7. So I held out, but had to replace a laptop, so I bought a new one. Windows 8, upgraded to 8.1

Man I loved to hate that thing, I bitched and moaned for months. I finally got it set up to my liking, and continued bitching about it to friends and family alike, and then, a few months later, I realized, I had stopped bitching.

You know what? Once I got it setup to my liking, booting straight to the desktop, my most used apps pinned to the task bar... It works. It works darn well too, overall. I see the start menu as an thing I go to from time to time, and I am finding more use for it now.

>So I have stopped bitching and started using, again, realizing, like I did back when I was a Linut, that if you can get it to work for you, then that's all you need. Hating is counterproductive, get to work, or enjoy your free time.

48 posted on 01/08/2014 2:17:24 PM PST by Paradox (Unexpected things coming for the next few years.)
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To: CMailBag

I agree. Windows 8 SUCKS and needs to follow the Blackberry into irrelevancy.


49 posted on 01/08/2014 2:21:32 PM PST by ohioman
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To: Vaquero

They should come up with “Old Fart Windows”. I want to surf the web, write letters and get email. I don’t need anything else. And I don’t get very many emails.


50 posted on 01/08/2014 2:29:24 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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