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Texas Parks and Wildlife Now Has a SWAT Team
Dallas Observer ^ | January 10, 2014 | Brantley Hargrove

Posted on 01/11/2014 8:57:42 PM PST by Altariel

The man in the photo to the left isn't a Ranger in Afghanistan's Korengal Valley. He's a Texas game warden, kitted out to check your deer tags or lead a paramilitary, kick-the-door-in assault on your tent. The militarization of every possible law enforcement entity in America is complete: Texas Parks and Wildlife now has a SWAT team.

The 25-man unit can deploy anywhere in the state within four hours, TPWD boasts, and is modeled after what military types call a "force multiplier," which basically means that these guys can shoot a bunch of bullets. At what, you ask? In this Texas Parks and Wildlife Magazine story, they list potential missions like "border operations, dignitary protection or any sort of high-risk law enforcement, such as serving felony arrest warrants or hostage situations.

Stuff can get real down in the dusty arroyos of Big Bend Ranch State Park. Hell, a Mexican man on a burro might try to sell you a carved statuette. In fairness, a game warden's average suspect is usually carrying a high-powered rifle. But something tells me some of these guys couldn't wait to shuck those slacks and Stetsons and put on a fresh pair of BDU pants and a Kevlar helmet.

"We're steeped in tradition and very mindful of our past," said special ops chief Grahame Jones. "It's an important part of who we are, but we have to look to the future."

And the future is a camo AR. Now, if Texas truly intends to secede, it's got its own military force ready and waiting. We've even got a Navy! TPWD has 564 vessels, including a 65-foot gulf patrol ship, and gunboats mounted with .30 cal machine guns.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: banglist; donutwatch; swat; texas; tx

1 posted on 01/11/2014 8:57:43 PM PST by Altariel
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To: Altariel

“Now, if Texas truly intends to secede, it’s got its own military force ready and waiting.”


2 posted on 01/11/2014 9:02:48 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Altariel
Life in the US gets weirder every damn day. :-(


3 posted on 01/11/2014 9:03:03 PM PST by Bobalu (The true secret to genius is in creativity, not in technical mechanics)
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To: Altariel

And they wonder why people are losing trust in the government.


4 posted on 01/11/2014 9:03:43 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: max americana

....waiting for those who intend to secede.


5 posted on 01/11/2014 9:10:11 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

I see the logic of border related operations, however, will they even be allowed to defend themselves if they come under fire? I can see an ROE not unlike Iraq or Afghanistan applying to cartel and illegals. Of course dogs and civilians would not be subject to such an ROE.


6 posted on 01/11/2014 9:34:45 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: Altariel

Back in the old days we called them “Possum Cops”. Now they’re well armed jack booted Nazis.


7 posted on 01/11/2014 9:40:56 PM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: Altariel
I long for a saner, calmer, less gestapo-ridden time.
Please let me off at Mayberry. (or perhaps Willoughby)


8 posted on 01/11/2014 9:50:05 PM PST by Bobalu (The true secret to genius is in creativity, not in technical mechanics)
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To: Antihero101607

I think we can ben tolerably certain that their ROE will encourage them to be ready and willing to defend themselves.

The question is: against whom will they really be unleashed?


9 posted on 01/11/2014 10:14:56 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

They’re just setting up the stage..


10 posted on 01/11/2014 10:15:48 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Altariel
Be assured for them, going home safe at night comes far before the welfare of the peasants that pay their salaries............

Cross them at your peril, they are locked and loaded, and probably looking for some targets to play with their new toys on ..............

11 posted on 01/11/2014 10:23:46 PM PST by doorgunner69
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To: max americana
They’re just setting up the stage..

Exactly what I was thinking. Couldn't put it into a concise statement like you did. Kudos.

12 posted on 01/11/2014 11:13:34 PM PST by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

It’s Texas, maybe they are ready to surrender Falcon Lake to the Mexicans.


13 posted on 01/11/2014 11:18:03 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Altariel
The question is: against whom will they really be unleashed?

Peace and freedom loving citizens. Constitutionalists, smaller government patriots, Tea Party activists, veterans. Do I need to go on? The government scum bags are just waiting for their Reichstag moment. Remember, they want to kill off 25 million Americans. I suspect most will be of European descent.

14 posted on 01/11/2014 11:21:00 PM PST by Mark17 (Chicago Blackhawks: Stanley Cup champions 2010, 2013. Vietnam Veteran, 70-71a)
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To: Altariel; All

Texas Game wardens have jurisdiction state wide and are just as much a peace officer as any state trooper. Game Wardens I have known are the outdoor type hunters and fishermen for the most part. They do have expertise in the wilderness that most leo’s do not have. Now, lets say you have fugitives on the run with like skills. Who would be the best to apprehend them. I am by far no JBT boot licker but I do have respect so far for the Texas Game wardens.


15 posted on 01/11/2014 11:36:34 PM PST by eastforker (Cruz for steam in 2016)
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To: eastforker

“Texas Game wardens have jurisdiction state wide and are just as much a peace officer as any state trooper. “

Actually, here in Texas, game wardens have more authority than peace officers or DPS officers. Texas game wardens can come on private property, open gates, enter buildings, open your refrigerator, etc, without a warrant. Having lived in west Texas and camped and hunted over much of that country I can tell you that it gets mighty spooky out there when alone sometimes. So, I don’t have any problem with Texas peace officers, including game wardens, arming up. And, having a trained SWAT team as a ready reserve doesn’t bother me either. Texas law enforcement is made up of “good guys” for the most part and are on the “right” side.


16 posted on 01/12/2014 4:20:36 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear
Texas game wardens can come on private property, open gates, enter buildings, open your refrigerator, etc, without a warrant. .... And, having a trained SWAT team as a ready reserve doesn’t bother me either.

I think you need to go back and read what you wrote. If you do not have a problem with a SWAT team coming into your home and searching your stuff without a warrant, then the 4th Amendment is gone, and the Republic is lost.

17 posted on 01/12/2014 5:46:53 AM PST by beancounter13
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To: snoringbear

Perhaps you do not mind your rights being violated so long as you suppose they are violated by “the good guys”, but those with a better understanding of history view such a stance with a dim eye.


18 posted on 01/12/2014 6:17:28 AM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

“Perhaps you do not mind your rights being violated so long as you suppose they are violated by “the good guys”, but those with a better understanding of history view such a stance with a dim eye.”

Umm, maybe I missed something, I re-read my posting on this and I don’t believe I mentioned anything about ceding my rights on anything. But, help me out please. What rights did I say I wouldn’t mind being violated?


19 posted on 01/12/2014 6:33:03 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: beancounter13

“I think you need to go back and read what you wrote. If you do not have a problem with a SWAT team coming into your home and searching your stuff without a warrant, then the 4th Amendment is gone, and the Republic is lost. “

Actually, you should be ashamed of yourself. You purposely photo-shopped my posting. My comment about warrants and arming up were two separate subjects and were not interconnected. Suggest you man up, acknowledge your shameful act, and apologize. You’ll feel better :)


20 posted on 01/12/2014 6:39:41 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

OK, how about this...

If a Texan game warden came to my house, entered it at gunpoint without a warrant (as no warrant, and I would not let him in, which would then require force on his part), and then looked in my fridge, again without my consent or a warrant, and found something that I shouldn’t have (snail darter, endangered wood rat, whatever) and I was charged with a crime...

My defense would be the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution. If any judge denied that defense, then they too are a traitor. The Constitution would simply be an old piece of parchment at that point. Do you not agree?


21 posted on 01/12/2014 6:46:30 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: snoringbear
Texas game wardens can come on private property, open gates, enter buildings, open your rerigerator, etc, without a warrant....So, I don’t have any problem with Texas peace officers, including game wardens, arming up. And, having a trained SWAT team as a ready reserve doesn’t bother me either. Texas law enforcement is made up of “good guys” for the most part and are on the “right” side.

What bootlicking? Must have been "photoshopped". /s

22 posted on 01/12/2014 7:02:50 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Anton.Rutter

“What bootlicking? Must have been “photoshopped”. /s”

Yeah, ok, I see your problem.


23 posted on 01/12/2014 7:30:29 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear

I’ve got a big problem, I don’t need an army to step outside my door.

Just think of it as a first class boxcar; you’ll feel less conspicuous getting on by yourself.


24 posted on 01/12/2014 8:38:56 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: snoringbear
Texas game wardens can come on private property, open gates, enter buildings, open your refrigerator, etc, without a warrant.

Not according to the State constitution.

Art I, Sec. 9.   SEARCHES AND SEIZURES.
The people shall be secure in their persons, houses, papers and possessions, from all unreasonable seizures or searches, and no warrant to search any place, or to seize any person or thing, shall issue without describing them as near as may be, nor without probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation.

25 posted on 01/12/2014 9:32:10 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Alas Babylon!
If a Texan game warden came to my house, entered it at gunpoint without a warrant (as no warrant, and I would not let him in, which would then require force on his part), and then looked in my fridge, again without my consent or a warrant, and found something that I shouldn’t have (snail darter, endangered wood rat, whatever) and I was charged with a crime...

My defense would be the 4th Amendment to the US Constitution.

Why?
Wouldn't it be more appropriate to cite Art I, Sec 9 of TX's own Constitution?

26 posted on 01/12/2014 9:37:06 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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Game wardens’ powers shrouded in mystery

The truth is that almost all of the time game wardens have no magical powers to
detain, search and question hunters or anybody else.

They have no more right than any other law enforcement officer to stop you on
a public road and search your truck or the people in it. They should, the law says,
have probable cause to believe that a violation of the law has taken place before
they execute a stop, and they should request, and obtain, your permission to search
your truck. Otherwise, they need a search warrant.

They do not, as I’ve heard around a hundred campfires, have a special legal dispensation
to enter, uninvited, your home or your camp house on a lease. They have no special
right to search you or to go through your freezer to see how many doves you might
have stocked away

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Wardens are allowed to enter public and private property to enforce game laws, Kennedy
said, any place where animals under state jurisdiction are known to exist. In Texas, that
would be pretty much any property. And they can, while on that property, ask to inspect
any receptacles — game bags, ice chests, etc. — where game is known to be stored.

But the house or camp house on that property is another situation altogether, Kennedy
said. “The Texas Court of Criminal Appeals has interpreted the 4th amendment to mean that
the provision of the Parks and Wildlife Code allowing entry on private property does not apply to residences,” he
said. “So I don’t think
there is any 4th amendment problem with game wardens going onto private property
outside of residences.”

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27 posted on 01/12/2014 10:12:49 AM PST by deport
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To: OneWingedShark

Ha! Probably because I’m in Alabama....


28 posted on 01/12/2014 10:44:15 AM PST by Alas Babylon!
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To: Alas Babylon!
Ha! Probably because I’m in Alabama....

I'm not in TX either; it didn't stop me from getting the info.
Or, more relevant, if the story had happened in Alabama, would you have thought to look in your State's constitution?

One of the things that really damages the limited-government inclined people is always jumping to the federal level for things, like you did immediately citing the Constitution for the United States rather than the most applicable, most local law. (IOW, why give the federal government more and more power?)

29 posted on 01/12/2014 11:39:55 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Well, being a native born Texian and having hunted here in Texas all my life I can personally testify that Texas game wardens will come on private property and check you out without a warrant. I’ve been checked a few times and can’t count the times I’ve seen them driving around on private property. Anyway, because I was curious about this I did a little googling. It seems that the requirement for a warrant to search private property varies considerably from state to state. In Texas, although is couldn’t find a statute, game wardens seem to have the authority to enter property without a warrant if they believe there is game on said property. Same thing goes for searching houses, cars, campers, freezers, cookers,etc. So, if these postings are correct, game wardens are like the 10 ton gorilla, where can it go? Anywhere it darn well pleases. But, like I said earlier, I haven’t been able to find a statute to support this. You seem to be good at this searching stuff. If you find something post it as I am curious to learn the facts.


30 posted on 01/12/2014 2:04:27 PM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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To: snoringbear
I believe the Texas law that allows game wardens to do the things you've described is Title 2, Chapter 12, Subchapter A, of the Parks and Wildlife Code.
31 posted on 01/12/2014 2:27:52 PM PST by Oceander
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To: eastforker

They might also come across some folks growing pot in state forests, etc. chances are that the people growing and harvesting that pot are heavily armed.


32 posted on 01/12/2014 4:52:50 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: snoringbear

Re-read this paragraph:

Actually, here in Texas, game wardens have more authority than peace officers or DPS officers. Texas game wardens can come on private property, open gates, enter buildings, open your refrigerator, etc, without a warrant. Having lived in west Texas and camped and hunted over much of that country I can tell you that it gets mighty spooky out there when alone sometimes. So, I don’t have any problem with Texas peace officers, including game wardens, arming up. And, having a trained SWAT team as a ready reserve doesn’t bother me either. Texas law enforcement is made up of “good guys” for the most part and are on the “right” side.

Do you have any idea how horrifying the second sentence, in particular, would have been to the Founders and their contemporaries?

Do you realize that our forefathers fought a War to show their defiance of and prevent the future use of the sort of abuses to which you refer?


33 posted on 01/12/2014 7:57:48 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Altariel

“Do you realize that our forefathers fought a War to show their defiance of and prevent the future use of the sort of abuses to which you refer?”

Well, guess I don’t realize. What are the abuses I am referring to?


34 posted on 01/13/2014 3:06:55 AM PST by snoringbear (E.oGovernment is the Pimp,)
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