In Search of a Road to Reality

Evolution News and Views ^ | January 13, 2014 | Denyse O'Leary

[tacticalogic]

Well, I don't know anything about that "knowing exactly" business. But I am fairly well persuaded by now that organic — living — systems in Nature are physically based in inorganic ones.

Still not seeing how that's going to work. How will studying biology teach you astrophysics, or metallurgy, or plate tectonics?

If your ultimate presupposition, or initial premise, is that the material precedes Life and is its cause

I use an initial premise that material precedes Life. Do you know anyone who does not?

[Heartlander]

I use an initial premise that material precedes Life. Do you know anyone who does not?

I once asked you if you believed your mind ultimately came from mindlessness and you answered “No” . Do you believe that this preceding agent was material? Many people believe it was not…

[tacticalogic]

I will answer your question if you can explain how it’s going to answer mine.

[Heartlander]

Your question is not for me to answer - my question is for you.

[tacticalogic]

Can I ask why you need to know?

[Heartlander]

Hmmm.... This is a forum where people share links, give opinions, and ask questions . Should Betty ask "why" every time you ask a question and before she gives a thoughtful and informative answer?

We've been through this dance before - answer the question...

[tacticalogic]

Finding out there’s traps being set for you changes your perspective. Was I pinged to this thread for an inquisition?

[Heartlander]

It is merely a question.

[MHGinTN]

One of the foundational principle beliefs in mormonism is that matter is eternal and a god arises periodically to arrange it into a coherence. This same god then sires all the souls of living men and women until the next cycle happens. You don’t strike me as a Mormon, however.

[tacticalogic]

It is merely a question.

Yes it is. So was my asking why you wanted to know.

[tacticalogic]

I’m afraid I don’t even know any Mormons.

[Heartlander]

Because you made a statement:

I use an initial premise that material precedes Life. Do you know anyone who does not?

And I once asked you if you believed your mind ultimately came from mindlessness and you answered “No” .

So, do you believe that this preceding agent was material? (Again, many people believe it was not.)

[tacticalogic]

So, do you believe that this preceding agent was material? (Again, many people believe it was not.)

Why do you want to know?

I don't see any reason the answer to the question is going to have any effect on that premise, so I have to wonder why it's being asked.

[Heartlander]

If you can't answer one simple question - please explain why anyone should answer your questions.

Again, you made a statement:
I use an initial premise that material precedes Life. Do you know anyone who does not?

And I once asked you if you believed your mind ultimately came from mindlessness and you answered “No” .

So, do you believe that this preceding agent was material? (Again, many people believe it was not.)

[tacticalogic]

If you can't answer one simple question - please explain why anyone should answer your questions.

You don't have to if you don't want to. If you won't tell me why you want to know, just say so and we'll be done. It's that easy.

[Heartlander]

I've asked the simple question over and over....

I'm just curious - now can I get an answer?

[tacticalogic]

I've asked the simple question over and over....

I'm just curious - now can I get an answer?

I've been telling you. Over and over...

[Heartlander]

FYI - please see posts 61 thru 77...

It really is a simple question...

[tacticalogic]

Necktie party?

[MHGinTN]

No, there are just some of us at FR who enjoy watching an obfuscator play word games ... for a while. It is no longer amusing, now. It appears this game is an ego trip for you. Not the sort of spectacle most want to watch.