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In Search of a Road to Reality
Evolution News and Views ^ | January 13, 2014 | Denyse O'Leary

Posted on 01/16/2014 2:25:14 PM PST by Heartlander

In Search of a Road to Reality

Denyse O'Leary January 13, 2014 5:33 AM | Permalink

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The new cosmologies are not shedding much light, except on the sheer power of the human imagination. Whatever they were supposed to explain has been rendered by their own rules unexplainable. What follows?

In a 2012 triumph, the Large Hadron Collider detected the previously theoretical Higgs boson (the "God particle," thought to give everything in the universe mass). But the boson did not support any radical new cosmologies. Its lightness suggests the existence of other similar particles. That's promising for research but little more than that. Indeed, the Higgs's feast of data "seems to match the standard model's predictions perfectly" and leaves "usurpers of 'standard model' [with] little to chew on, as Nature put the matter in 2012. Science writer John Horgan says, "The Higgs doesn't take us any closer to a unified theory than climbing a tree would take me to the Moon."

Meanwhile researchers are finding greater structure in the universe than they anticipated. Spiral galaxies are "pin-ups of the cosmos" and thus "something of a headache" if chaos and disorder are expected. Much of the vast array of proposed life-friendly exoplanets, that would show Earth to be just average, could mainly be gas and dust.

Britain's Guardian asks, thinking about the multiverse, "Has physics gone too far?" Perhaps a better question would be, is New Atheist cosmology failing as physics? Because, make no mistake, an admitted motive for seeking alternatives to the Big Bang and the fine-tuning of our universe is getting rid of their theistic implications.

Worse, for some, the hateful Big Bang bangs on, oblivious of its critics. Cosmologist Alexander Vilenkin, resigned to the Big Bang's reality, theorizes that it was "merely one of a series of big bangs creating an endless number of bubble universes." Another scheme to get rid of the Big Bang as a singularity involves a rainbow universe where time has no beginning, a model that, as Scientific American tells us, "is not widely accepted." No wonder because, as one critic put it, the scheme must get rid of the singularity within the Standard Model of physics. Similarly, another new cosmology accounts for the apparent acceleration of the universe -- but only if there is no Big Bang: "This universe has no beginning or end, just alternating periods of expansion and contraction." It also has no cosmic microwave background, which our universe inconveniently does have.

Still others propose that the Big Bang was a "mirage from [a] collapsing higher-dimensional star," a thesis with which the new Planck data apparently disagree. In general, experimental findings continue to support the Standard Model. As New Scientist's editors put it in a 2012 editorial titled "The Genesis problem":

Many physicists have been fighting a rearguard action against it for decades, largely because of its theological overtones. If you have an instant of creation, don't you need a creator?

Cosmologists thought they had a workaround. Over the years, they have tried on several different models of the universe that dodge the need for a beginning while still requiring a big bang. But recent research has shot them full of holes. It now seems certain that the universe did have a beginning.But does that mean evidence matters again? Not clear. Some say we now have the tools to examine the beginning of the universe scientifically; others that we may never know what it was like. And there's always the option of declaring stubborn facts off limits. Steven Weinberg reflects:

Physical science has historically progressed not only by finding precise explanations of natural phenomena, but also by discovering what sorts of things can be precisely explained. These may be fewer than we had thought.
So are there any science questions the multiverse does answer? In "The Accidental Universe: Science's Crisis of Faith," Alan Lightman echoes,
According to the current thinking of many physicists, we are living in one of a vast number of universes. We are living in an accidental universe. We are living in a universe uncalculable by science.
If science finds the universe "uncalculable," surely the meaning of "anti-science" changes. Isn't "anti-science" a mere unwillingness to waste valuable time and funds on matters into which no one may usefully inquire?

Here's an alternative: On the road to reality, evidence must matter again. The weight of the evidence must count. And when it does count, if our cosmos is orderly, new approaches will emerge. They may be emerging now.

Intriguingly, a recent article in Scientific American noted, "Some researchers think that the world, at root, does not consist of material things but of relations or of properties, such as mass, charge and spin." But information, not matter, is fundamentally relational.

So, is the basic substance of the universe information? In that case, the ID theorists are right.

Editor's note: Here is the "Science Fictions" series to date at your fingertips.


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To: betty boop
Well, I don't know anything about that "knowing exactly" business. But I am fairly well persuaded by now that organic — living — systems in Nature are physically based in inorganic ones.

Still not seeing how that's going to work. How will studying biology teach you astrophysics, or metallurgy, or plate tectonics?

If your ultimate presupposition, or initial premise, is that the material precedes Life and is its cause

I use an initial premise that material precedes Life. Do you know anyone who does not?

61 posted on 01/21/2014 3:28:51 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
I use an initial premise that material precedes Life. Do you know anyone who does not?

I once asked you if you believed your mind ultimately came from mindlessness and you answered “No” . Do you believe that this preceding agent was material? Many people believe it was not…

62 posted on 01/21/2014 4:45:08 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Heartlander

I will answer your question if you can explain how it’s going to answer mine.


63 posted on 01/21/2014 5:11:48 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

Your question is not for me to answer - my question is for you.


64 posted on 01/21/2014 5:18:45 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Heartlander

Can I ask why you need to know?


65 posted on 01/21/2014 5:22:44 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
Hmmm.... This is a forum where people share links, give opinions, and ask questions . Should Betty ask "why" every time you ask a question and before she gives a thoughtful and informative answer?

We've been through this dance before - answer the question...

66 posted on 01/21/2014 5:33:53 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Heartlander

Finding out there’s traps being set for you changes your perspective. Was I pinged to this thread for an inquisition?


67 posted on 01/21/2014 5:38:11 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

It is merely a question.


68 posted on 01/21/2014 5:41:34 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: tacticalogic

One of the foundational principle beliefs in mormonism is that matter is eternal and a god arises periodically to arrange it into a coherence. This same god then sires all the souls of living men and women until the next cycle happens. You don’t strike me as a Mormon, however.


69 posted on 01/21/2014 5:42:59 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Heartlander
It is merely a question.

Yes it is. So was my asking why you wanted to know.

70 posted on 01/21/2014 5:51:06 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: MHGinTN

I’m afraid I don’t even know any Mormons.


71 posted on 01/21/2014 5:53:22 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
Because you made a statement:

I use an initial premise that material precedes Life. Do you know anyone who does not?

And I once asked you if you believed your mind ultimately came from mindlessness and you answered “No” .

So, do you believe that this preceding agent was material? (Again, many people believe it was not.)

72 posted on 01/21/2014 5:59:23 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Heartlander
So, do you believe that this preceding agent was material? (Again, many people believe it was not.)

Why do you want to know?

I don't see any reason the answer to the question is going to have any effect on that premise, so I have to wonder why it's being asked.

73 posted on 01/21/2014 6:10:47 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
If you can't answer one simple question - please explain why anyone should answer your questions.

Again, you made a statement:
I use an initial premise that material precedes Life. Do you know anyone who does not?

And I once asked you if you believed your mind ultimately came from mindlessness and you answered “No” .

So, do you believe that this preceding agent was material? (Again, many people believe it was not.)

74 posted on 01/21/2014 6:19:27 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Heartlander
If you can't answer one simple question - please explain why anyone should answer your questions.

You don't have to if you don't want to. If you won't tell me why you want to know, just say so and we'll be done. It's that easy.

75 posted on 01/21/2014 6:22:47 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
I've asked the simple question over and over....

I'm just curious - now can I get an answer?

76 posted on 01/21/2014 6:38:23 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Heartlander
I've asked the simple question over and over....

I'm just curious - now can I get an answer?

I've been telling you. Over and over...

77 posted on 01/21/2014 6:40:31 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic; Heartlander; hosepipe; djf; Alamo-Girl; MHGinTN; YHAOS; spirited irish; metmom; ...
FYI - please see posts 61 thru 77...

It really is a simple question...

78 posted on 01/21/2014 6:52:48 PM PST by Heartlander (We are all Rodeo Clowns now!)
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To: Heartlander

Necktie party?


79 posted on 01/21/2014 6:53:59 PM PST by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic

No, there are just some of us at FR who enjoy watching an obfuscator play word games ... for a while. It is no longer amusing, now. It appears this game is an ego trip for you. Not the sort of spectacle most want to watch.


80 posted on 01/21/2014 6:56:11 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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