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Sheriff rips apart 'Stand Your Ground' defence of ex-cop ....
The Daily Mail Online ^ | January 17, 2014 | WILL PAYNE IN LAKE O' LAKES, FLORIDA

Posted on 01/17/2014 6:15:54 AM PST by Uncle Chip

'Why didn't he just sit somewhere else?'

The Sheriff leading the investigation into the cinema shooting which happened after a row over texting has told MailOnline there is no chance of a Stand Your Ground defence, saying, ‘It was an empty movie theatre. If he was scared why didn’t he move seats?’.

Sheriff Chris Nocco has completely dismissed shooter Curtis Reeves’ claims that he gunned down Chad Oulson because he feared for his safety and said there is no way he can use Florida’s controversial self-defence law.

He is convinced the retired cop, 71, simply lost his temper after married father-of-one Oulson refused to stop texting and then threw a bag of popcorn at his killer’s face.

Reeves’ attorney Richard Escobar suggested on Wednesday that his client was not hit with popcorn and was actually attacked with another more dangerous object.

However Sheriff Nocco has completely dismissed that idea, saying nothing else was thrown and that Monday’s shooting is an open and shut case....

One of the key elements is that the theater was not packed so there was ample opportunity for anybody to move their seat if they wanted to....

Today Richard Escobar was quoted as saying something more than popcorn was thrown.

He told The Tampa Bay Times: ‘If it was popcorn, don't you think the detective would have written popcorn? It's an unknown object, dark in color. Those facts will come out.’

But Nocco hit back: ‘There is absolutely nothing to prove anything else was thrown.’....

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Local News; UFO's
KEYWORDS: banglist; curtisreeves
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To: Georgia Girl 2

It comes back to the fact that if you’re carrying,
you have a MORAL OBLIGATION to go out of your way
to avoid conflict.

This man sought it out, and it was due to his elitist

“AUTHORITAH”

mentality.


41 posted on 01/17/2014 8:00:10 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: sport

Well they should be embarrassed, this is another set back for the right to carry a gun for your own defense.


42 posted on 01/17/2014 8:18:07 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Free Vulcan

Makes you wonder what the ex-cop’s wife was doing during this time.

Why wasn’t she restraining her husband???


43 posted on 01/17/2014 8:19:05 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: AnAmericanMother
If this guy has half a brain, he’ll plead out.

No matter what he does, I think he's going away for a long time.

44 posted on 01/17/2014 8:22:29 AM PST by super7man
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To: Uncle Chip

Well there’s another question. Sounds like he was alone, and that he went to movies alone on a regular basis. WTH does that? Was he seeking this stuff out for thrills?


45 posted on 01/17/2014 8:22:35 AM PST by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: Ditter
I understand that, but to them, worshiping authority is all that matters.

You can believe it or not, but that guy [Reeves] was going to kill someone over texting. It might have not been that day, it might not be next week or next month. The hatred, frustration, and contempt of those he considered inferior to him was eating him alive. The peasants that had the audacity and gall to refuse to bow down to his authority. That day, everything came together, and the results are there for all to see.

46 posted on 01/17/2014 8:27:41 AM PST by sport
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To: Free Vulcan

She was sitting next to him and could have moved over a few seats when he went to talk to management — but she didn’t.

She had to have known that he was carrying.

She could have put her hand over his as it reached into the pocket for the gun — but she didn’t.

She was probably enjoying the show and even egging him on.


47 posted on 01/17/2014 8:28:22 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
In my concealed hand gun class it was 8 hours of how to avoid conflicts and the very last thing you want to do is shoot someone.

If I remember correctly some states allow retired police officers to carry without taking the class.

48 posted on 01/17/2014 8:29:41 AM PST by hadaclueonce (Because Brawndo's got electrolytes. Because Ethanol has Big Corn Lobby)
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To: hadaclueonce

It seems that all cops — retired and not retired — need to take that class:

How NOT to Shoot Someone [or their Dog]


49 posted on 01/17/2014 8:33:37 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: sport
I absolutely believe what you say about Reeves but the freepers who defended him are wrong and I would hope that they eventually figure it out.

I have respect for the police because that is how I was raised but I do NOT worship it and I can clearly see when they are out of bounds.

50 posted on 01/17/2014 8:35:50 AM PST by Ditter
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To: Wolfie

Raisinets?


Milk Duds..


51 posted on 01/17/2014 8:40:12 AM PST by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: MrB

this is what happens when two *ssholes cross paths.


52 posted on 01/17/2014 8:42:12 AM PST by School of Rational Thought
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To: Uncle Chip
Breaking news!!!

The UFO has been identified as a Junior Mint!


53 posted on 01/17/2014 8:44:40 AM PST by 109ACS (If this be Treason, then make the most of it. Patrick Henry, May 1765)
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To: sport

It would be interesting to find out if he carried all the time or just when he went to theatres —


54 posted on 01/17/2014 8:44:45 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: School of Rational Thought
this is what happens when two *ssholes cross paths an *sshole crosses your path.

There fixed it.

55 posted on 01/17/2014 8:47:39 AM PST by Uncle Chip
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To: MrB

throwing ANY object at another person’s face is also a no no so this gives the reasonable doubt opening.

assuming this fails, he will claim “cop syndrome”.


56 posted on 01/17/2014 8:48:36 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Uncle Chip
Why wasn’t she restraining her husband???

She knew him well. -- She didn't want to be shot.

57 posted on 01/17/2014 8:49:31 AM PST by Dan(9698)
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To: Ditter

I grew up when the policeman was considered a friend. When if one was having a dispute, one could call on them to help settle it. If one had a wayward child, they would counsel with said child. If one needed advice or guidance, they would provide it. Sadly, to me anyway, that is no longer the case. They [the police] have been indoctrinated to we, the citizenry, are the enemy. No distinction is made between the law abiding or the criminal element. We [the lawabiding] are to be treated as criminals they haven’t had the opportunity to arrest. That is where we stand at this point in time. It took me a long time and a lot of being talked down to by them to realize it. But I finally got the message.


58 posted on 01/17/2014 8:50:25 AM PST by sport
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To: Uncle Chip
It would, indeed.

The more I think about it. The more I mull over it. The more I come to the conclusion that he was out to kill someone and would not stop until he did.

59 posted on 01/17/2014 8:53:16 AM PST by sport
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To: MrB

morality is not legal obligation is not ethical obligation.

The law stats hitting another with an object is a battery. was it reasonable to throw popcorn into the face of a stranger?


60 posted on 01/17/2014 8:54:05 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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