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Police forced man to have anal surgery during crazy drug search, now settling for $1.6 million
Daily Caller ^ | 01/16/2014 | Robby Soave

Posted on 01/17/2014 7:41:35 AM PST by Rusty0604

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To: OneWingedShark; All

What also very much disturbs me about this (and other) cases, and I don’t understand it, is, it seems, the guy was not under arrest.

Please anybody correct me if I’m wrong, because I’ve been wondering about this for quite some time.

Had he been under arrest he’d have been entitled to (immediately, no?) get counsel from an attorney, correct?

And if he wasn’t under arrest, what right did they have to detain him or transport him in any way, to any where, for any purpose?

Now, I can understand doing a pat-down, turn out your pockets, that kind of thing even without placing someone under arrest, but this stuff?

Maybe I’m dumb to rely on what I’ve seen on TV, but I’ve seen a lot of “suspects” on TV say: either arrest me or I’m leaving. And then they leave and the cop or whoever says: OK, but don’t leave town.

I’m just not getting this stuff at all.


41 posted on 01/17/2014 9:55:12 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Rusty0604
I forget...what's the "War on Drugs" actually a war on?

Who's winning? What are they winning? Is it worth fighting the war?

Who's losing? What's being lost? Is it worth the cost? Can it be recovered? Should it be?

What's really happening here?

42 posted on 01/17/2014 10:02:51 AM PST by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Rusty0604

If you anally raped the cops in similarly dehumanising fashion, I wonder what they would settle for.


43 posted on 01/17/2014 10:15:48 AM PST by Anton.Rutter
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To: Tenacious 1

Don’t worry. As the rise of the police state continues, everyone will have a opportunity to be ‘lucky’ like this poor fellow.


44 posted on 01/17/2014 10:51:45 AM PST by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Malichi
Evidently the state immediately started going after the physicians' licenses when this happened. The police had to take him to a second hospital after the first facility said they wouldn't do the requested exams.

All of this was based on a "hit" from a non-certified K9.

45 posted on 01/17/2014 10:59:19 AM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: Rusty0604

Do you suppose the taxpayers of that jurisdiction are actually picking up the tab? I’ll bet the cops aren’t personally shelling out.


46 posted on 01/17/2014 10:59:24 AM PST by Mr. Dough (Who was the greater military man, General Tso or Col. Sanders?)
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To: USNBandit
All of this was based on a "hit" from a non-certified K9.

Certified...non-certified. It's a damn dog dying to 'please' his master. Outlaw sniffer dogs.

47 posted on 01/17/2014 11:05:39 AM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I’ve had a number of drug war supporters tell me that we are not a moral people, so the Constitution no longer applies.


48 posted on 01/17/2014 11:58:34 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: Ken H
I’ve had a number of drug war supporters tell me that we are not a moral people, so the Constitution no longer applies.

What I find amusing is the answers given when you ask the question by what authority does the federal government regulate drugs? Especially given that in order to regulate a particular substance [alcohol] a constitutional amendment was required, which has since been repealed, and no similar amendment exists for drugs.


If I'm feeling particularly clever I'll also show how the War on Drugs is Treason as defined by the Constitution... which, oddly, they never seem to have any counterargument to either.

49 posted on 01/17/2014 12:03:48 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Paladin2
Wouldn’t it be better to image the guy first?

The cop seemed to want to do multiple 'hands on" exams first.

50 posted on 01/17/2014 12:08:00 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: OneWingedShark
What I find amusing is the answers given when you ask the question "by what authority does the federal government regulate drugs? Especially given that in order to regulate a particular substance [alcohol] a constitutional amendment was required, which has since been repealed, and no similar amendment exists for drugs."

Even worse, if you actually start looking really closely at the judicial history of the vast majorty of drug laws, the decisions and citations ultimately trace back to prohibition-era court rulings. Interstingly, when the constitution was amended, this edifice of precedent was never similarly stricken. The entire regime of the unconstitutional and immoral "war on drugs" rests on a flimsy house of cards that the government will protect by any means at its disposal, because it is critical to the support of its usurped power.

51 posted on 01/17/2014 12:21:18 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: USNBandit
Non-certified?
Hell me or my fiancee get a “hit” by my lab almost every time one of us is getting in the shower.
52 posted on 01/17/2014 1:20:59 PM PST by Malichi (!)
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To: Tenacious 1; jocon307
This case is an outrageous outrage, however, I don’t think the word “surgery” is precisely correct.

"Surgery" in the British sense of the word... Ever watch Doc Martin? What we call a doctor's office, they call "a surgery"...

53 posted on 01/17/2014 1:36:15 PM PST by Albion Wilde (The less a man knows, the more certain he is that he knows it all.)
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To: Albion Wilde

“Surgery” in the British sense of the word”

Ah, OK, that makes sense, thanks!


54 posted on 01/17/2014 1:50:53 PM PST by jocon307
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