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Microsoft Quietly Fixes Windows XP Resource Hog Problem
Redmond magazine ^ | 01/16/2014 | Kurt Mackie

Posted on 01/18/2014 9:44:36 AM PST by Utilizer

Microsoft indicated this week that it has fixed a Windows XP resource-hog problem associated with the system's SVCHOST.EXE processes.

Windows XP users affected by this problem typically found that the operating system was using up system resources for 15 minutes to an hour after startup, making it difficult to use the machine during that period. The Microsoft Update team had vowed last month to spend the holiday break tackling the issue, which has plagued some users for years.

The fix involved stopping the system from perpetually checking Internet Explorer updates. Microsoft indicated that the fix was rolled out on Tuesday.

...snip...

Microsoft did not announce the fix broadly. Instead, it released the above statement to Susan Bradley, a Microsoft MVP and moderator of the PatchManagement.org list-serve service, which is a discussion group for IT pros. Apparently, that's the only venue where the statement appeared publicly. Microsoft's January security bulletin announcing four patches and nonsecurity releases did not mention the SVCHOST fix for Windows XP.

Microsoft's fix took effect on Tuesday. It apparently stops systems from grinding through older Internet Explorer updates before releasing system resources. The fix also seems not to require any actions by Windows XP users or IT pros to take effect.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet
KEYWORDS: linux; macos; microsoft; softwareos; svchost; windows; windowsxp; windulls; winxp
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This is one of the reasons I never trusted that "Automatic Update" so-called "feature" function. Besides the fact that it sometimes resulted in crashing the machine, that is. Not much more info at the site, minor links there and other references.
1 posted on 01/18/2014 9:44:36 AM PST by Utilizer
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To: Utilizer

Glad they finally got this fix done. It’s what? 4 months until they stop supporting XP at all?


2 posted on 01/18/2014 9:46:43 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: null and void

Something like that.


3 posted on 01/18/2014 9:48:32 AM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Utilizer
The fix also seems not to require any actions by Windows XP users or IT pros to take effect.

How is that? No update/install?

4 posted on 01/18/2014 9:50:33 AM PST by Excellence (All your database are belong to us.)
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To: Utilizer
I don't use automatic updates ... never did after my BIL told me about the potential problems way back in 1998.

I always opted for the notification, so I could read it and decide for myself.

Having said that, the last year or so, when I shut my XPPro down, I would always get a SVCHOST IS SHUTTING DOWN popup, which was explained to me as;, the computer wanting to shut down faster than the software.

I'm no geek, so I accepted it.

Always hit 'end now' and never worried about lost data ... all I ever did was surf FR and .... never mind.

5 posted on 01/18/2014 9:51:15 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: Utilizer
yup, great timing .. kinda makes ya wonder 'why bother' ?
6 posted on 01/18/2014 9:51:27 AM PST by tomkat
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To: Utilizer

I get all kinds of notices from windows, but I learned the hard way to shut off their “Automatic Updates”.


7 posted on 01/18/2014 9:55:37 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: null and void
Still quite a few machines out there running XP. Heck, even some NT 4.0 machines around from what I understand. But even so, MS STILL has not published the official ntfs specifications, which is why even when running one of the newest Linux distros I sometimes get a warning that an ntfs partition has indicated a problem, and need to have Windoze run a check on it and reboot at least twice to fix it.
8 posted on 01/18/2014 9:56:44 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: null and void

In just under the wire! Good job, Microsoft!


9 posted on 01/18/2014 9:57:07 AM PST by 1rudeboy
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To: knarf

Yeah. I only use XP to any real degree on a non-internet connected machine. Maybe this fix will stop the poor thing from having conniption fits?


10 posted on 01/18/2014 9:58:04 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: Utilizer

My XP laptop runs faster than greased lightning now.


11 posted on 01/18/2014 9:58:40 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Utilizer

Its been forever since I had XP but I actually do remember SVCHOST and wondering what was taking resources back in the day. Its one of the few things I actually remember, but I do not remember it being a huge problem.


12 posted on 01/18/2014 9:58:54 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: smokingfrog

lol

(I think)


13 posted on 01/18/2014 10:00:20 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Excellence

Not certain. Either it was included in the latest auto-update as of last Tuesday, or the PatchManagement.org site might have it available otherwise.


14 posted on 01/18/2014 10:00:58 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: knarf
...the computer wanting to shut down faster than the software.

I used to encounter a similar problem with Firefox, which I finally solved by first switching to a new blank tab while closing all the others, exiting, then waiting a few extra seconds before shutting down to give the software time to finish all running processes first.

15 posted on 01/18/2014 10:04:22 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

Nice, but points out something I’ve always suspected, as I’ll bet this crap was going on behind the scenes even though I almost never use IE, just because it’s installed as part of Windoze.


16 posted on 01/18/2014 10:05:15 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Utilizer
OMFG!! I spent HOURS trying to fix this cluster disaster of a problem. It would hog the entire CPU, and then when you would kill the process it would still let you surf the net, but wouldn't let you watch YouTube, start AIM, and wouldn't manage the Sleep state. It would hibernate and then have to be rebooted to start again. Lather, rinse, repeat until you're ready to scream.

I thought I had a virus or something was wrong with my computer. How is it that this problem just showed up something like 10 - 15 years after XP was introduced? I'm beginning to think the Linux / Ubuntu guys are right.

17 posted on 01/18/2014 10:09:12 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: bigbob
...I almost never use IE, just because it’s installed as part of Windoze.

What I found most annoying was running across a bit of new software more and more frequently that REQUIRED IE to run! I had to install it (or, more frequently re-install it) just to get the software to run -even though I used only Opera.

18 posted on 01/18/2014 10:15:13 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: ShadowAce

bump


19 posted on 01/18/2014 10:17:08 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Utilizer

You use Opera? I was wondering who used that browser.


20 posted on 01/18/2014 10:18:04 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Utilizer; rdb3; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Salo; JosephW; Only1choice____Freedom; amigatec; ...

21 posted on 01/18/2014 10:18:30 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

that was fast


22 posted on 01/18/2014 10:18:54 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

Pure coincidence. I had just logged in to see what was new.


23 posted on 01/18/2014 10:21:06 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: ShadowAce

Kind of funny they fix this now.


24 posted on 01/18/2014 10:22:57 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Excellence

I’m running XP with SP3 and SVCHOST used to gobble up 50% of resources and make the computer cooling fan run at annoyingly noisy high speeds.

Today Win7 is being installed on another partition mainly because WinXP will no longer be supported, but the real motivator was I thought that would be the only fix for that SVCHOST issue.

FYI, with numerous changes and a 3rd party upgrade, Win 7 can be made to look and work very similar to XP.


25 posted on 01/18/2014 10:24:38 AM PST by redfreedom (All it takes for evil to win is for good people to do nothing - that's how the left took over.)
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To: GeronL

Actually, I found 2 gigs of RAM on sale for about $20 and that did more than anything to speed things up. Microsoft’s file indexing seems to slow things down as well, but you can turn it off.


26 posted on 01/18/2014 10:24:59 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Utilizer
The fix involved stopping the system from perpetually checking Internet Explorer updates.

....a lot of fuss for a browser nobody in their right mind would use.

What they won't say is how many other processes get up to similar things. A network analyzer often reveals some shocking details.

27 posted on 01/18/2014 10:24:59 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: Utilizer
A while back was noticing a lot of hard drive activity on my old XP system. Downloaded a program called DkHardDrive to find out what program/tasks were beating on the hard drive. At that time it turned out to be some kind of indexing/other issue caused by the new AVG.

Ended up changing to Avast. When it started to do something similar(constant hard drive activity)I just switched to MS Security Essentials(+ Malwarebytes, Spybot).

Only activity I now see(at idle)are related to .log, network related, Firefox, Rapport(security?), and temp file stuff...but now much less HD activity.

I know I had a few MS updates lately(including Tuesday), can't say I notice any improvement. If anything system has slowed down a bit, maybe from all the security stuff over the years, maybe just from aging hardware, probably a combination of both.

Can't complain, I've had very few issues with XP over the years.

(as they say......all good things...)

28 posted on 01/18/2014 10:25:12 AM PST by RckyRaCoCo (Shall Not Be Infringed)
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To: Excellence

The NSA will handle it all, thankyouverymuch.


29 posted on 01/18/2014 10:25:22 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: Excellence

I wonder what the bug fix number is. I’d like to check my system to see if it is installed. Though I do recall getting a Auto Update notice around Tuesday.


30 posted on 01/18/2014 10:26:32 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: smokingfrog

how many Gigs of RAM will XP recognize?


31 posted on 01/18/2014 10:27:14 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL

From what I remember, you can install 4, but it won’t be able to recognize all of it.


32 posted on 01/18/2014 10:30:22 AM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: Utilizer

They really got right on top of that problem. It’s only been an issue for about a decade. Why do I ever boot up in anything other than Linux???


33 posted on 01/18/2014 10:30:56 AM PST by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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To: GeronL

Opera Mini sure is nice on my LG840.

On the XP thing, yes, I saw the svchost thing get fixed last week on the kid’s laptop, although the runaway condition had been occurring only since the last MS update applied a few days before.


34 posted on 01/18/2014 10:32:35 AM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: Utilizer

35 posted on 01/18/2014 10:35:48 AM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: steve86

So that’s why they fixed it! They had another update that caused it to run wild.


36 posted on 01/18/2014 10:40:23 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Utilizer

this affected my machine. i first thought it was a virus. luckily i restored back a few days and didn’t allow any ie explorer updates to be installed since then.


37 posted on 01/18/2014 10:41:34 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Hardastarboard
How is it that this problem just showed up something like 10 - 15 years after XP was introduced?

If I had to guess, I would think that as the XP EOL approaches, more and more sites are removing their windoze 'update' sections and the MS people did not think to allow for an option in the software that could recognize a No-Such-Directory return. Thus, the endless waiting to retrieve a file, or even worse an incomplete retrieval when the directory listing pointed to a file that was already being overwritten by newer data.

38 posted on 01/18/2014 10:46:24 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: smokingfrog

We must applaud Microsoft and their thousands of developers for doing nothing else for years but research and fix this bug.


39 posted on 01/18/2014 10:48:38 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: Utilizer

Why are there resource hogs, but there’s never any resource bacon?


40 posted on 01/18/2014 10:50:40 AM PST by tacticalogic
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To: Secret Agent Man

Restoring back to a known-good setup has solved many a problem over the years here as well, s’truth.


41 posted on 01/18/2014 10:51:38 AM PST by Utilizer (Bacon A'kbar! - In world today are only peaceful people, and the mooslimbs trying to kill them-)
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To: Utilizer

I vote for taking all of Bill Gates’ billions of $s and using it to fix all of the crappy products he has foisted on consumers over the years.


42 posted on 01/18/2014 10:56:28 AM PST by anonsquared
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To: Utilizer
I've experienced this.
43 posted on 01/18/2014 10:56:47 AM PST by Robert357 (D.Rather "Hoist with his own petard!" www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1223916/posts)
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To: Utilizer

So.....Microsoft is going to ‘fix’ a problem 12 years after the operating system was released and only three months before Microsoft stops supporting WindowsXP?

How magnanimous of Microsoft for being so forthcoming! I applaud them! /s


44 posted on 01/18/2014 11:07:59 AM PST by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (What we need is to sucker the fedthugs into a "Tiananmen Square"-like incident on the National Mall!)
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To: tomkat
[4 months left]...why bother' [after all those years]?

I'm guessing that they were about to be outed in some fashion, and the last thing MS needs is more bad PR baggage as they re-brand the next batch of "fixes to it's FAD useability disasters" of W8 as a brand new W9.

45 posted on 01/18/2014 11:08:35 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: GeronL

32 bit or 64 bit?


46 posted on 01/18/2014 11:08:41 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: meatloaf

They have XP for 64-bit??


47 posted on 01/18/2014 11:12:33 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Utilizer
What I found most annoying was running across a bit of new software more and more frequently that REQUIRED IE to run!

That's because a lot of software displays HTML content either online, internally generated or from a file, and the easiest way to handle it is to use the HTML viewer ActiveX control that is included with IE. There is a similar control that uses Firefox instead, but the last time I tried it there was still some missing functionality.

48 posted on 01/18/2014 11:22:40 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: GeronL

There is a 64-bit version but it wasn’t widely used.


49 posted on 01/18/2014 11:28:03 AM PST by Squawk 8888 (I'd give up chocolate but I'm no quitter)
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To: Squawk 8888

very interesting, 64-bit was kind of new to the consumer market back then wasn’t it?

not that I would know


50 posted on 01/18/2014 11:29:49 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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